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Men: can you objectively judge another man's looks?

Sure, if they're good looking, good for them!
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UGH no...I'm not gay!
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He's good looking...but I'm not gay...

Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:08 am

A guy: I'm not gay but he isn't bad looking.


I find it interesting when I see that certain men feel the need to put a glaring disclaimer of "I'm not gay" when discussing another man's looks. You'd think in this day and age that people would be able to move past such insecurities, but obviously it's still a very prevalent in society.

So, fellow men who happen to be straight: do you feel insecure if asked to comment on another guy's looks? Or do you worry frantically if you see a decent looking fellow and think, "Hey he's pretty good looking"? I myself couldn't care less, and if they have a good fashion sense and take care of themselves: more power to them!

What sayest you? All opinions from across the sexual spectrum of course, welcome!
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Postby Krjder » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:11 am

I'm not sure what I am, really. My best friend is very handsome. People say I'm good looking but for some reason I feel like slapping them for that.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:11 am

No. My advice on this, though, rarely matters.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:11 am

People look at animals, paintings, kids, etc. and comment on how cute/beautiful they are.
So i'm guessing yeh, obviously.
(I'm bi so i have no first hand experience.)
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Postby Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:13 am

As a woman human being, I think this is a stupid question.
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Postby Eirenia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:13 am

what?! the way you talk...it's almost like...it's not a bad thing to be gay?! woah,,,,,

I view it as the sad lamenting of people not lucky enough to be queer. Or an indicator of societal homophobia. Pick your favorite.
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Postby Zottistan » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:14 am

"Dude, your sister looks really good... but I'm not straight or anything!"
See how ridiculous it sounds on the reverse?
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:19 am

Disserbia wrote:As a woman human being, I think this is a stupid question.


Why is it a stupid question?

Given the post I quoted in the op, I think it's a relevant question to see how prevalent this line of thinking is, at least here on NSG (for those who participate). It's a sign of attitudes and biases or lack thereof.
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:19 am

You're a beautiful beautiful man, and I'd like to make sweet love to you under the moonlight.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:19 am

Neo Art wrote:You're a beautiful beautiful man, and I'd like to make sweet love to you under the moonlight.

No homo.


All of the homo!
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:20 am

men are supposed to want to fuck anyone who they find good looking. so if you find a man to be good looking you must want to fuck him. if you want to fuck a man you are gay. quelle horreur!

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:20 am

I love carrots.
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Postby Neo Art » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:21 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Neo Art wrote:You're a beautiful beautiful man, and I'd like to make sweet love to you under the moonlight.

No homo.


All of the homo!


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That...um...that actually works on multiple levels.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:22 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:I love carrots.


Your vote should be for the "Tom Jones" option then. :D
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Postby GHawkins » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:25 am

I'll be honest, I can't objectively judge a man's looks. Exception is of course clothes, like last week my friend showed up in suit. Nothing wrong with a "Looking good!" then, but... I just feel uncomfortable commenting on another guy's looks.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:27 am

GHawkins wrote:I'll be honest, I can't objectively judge a man's looks. Exception is of course clothes, like last week my friend showed up in suit. Nothing wrong with a "Looking good!" then, but... I just feel uncomfortable commenting on another guy's looks.


And that's what the gist of this whole op is...what makes you uncomfortable, per se?
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Postby GHawkins » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:32 am

Well. I think for a start it's that I don't look at guys in that particular way. I mean, I know from myself that when I see a girl or something, I judge her appearance. I look at how she herself looks, her clothes, and things It's just a standard thing that I look how she looks. But with guys, I go right through that. Clothes maybe but not really the person itself. It's just something that's not in my system. And I think that that makes it uncomfortable.

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Postby Stychia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:33 am

I don't recall the last last time I thought a man is handsome. Sometimes I see a woman, an ordinary person off the street and I think some certain aspect of them is beautiful. It's often something completely arbitrary and random, like their cheek bones or their hands etc. Once I saw a girl without hair and with a certain fire in her eyes, it was beautiful too. I think people are trying too hard to be mainstream handsome, and at the risk of sounding like a hipster the most beautiful are those who don't fulfill the modern standards of beauty.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:38 am

Stychia wrote:I don't recall the last last time I thought a man is handsome. Sometimes I see a woman, an ordinary person off the street and I think some certain aspect of them is beautiful. It's often something completely arbitrary and random, like their cheek bones or their hands etc. Once I saw a girl without hair and with a certain fire in her eyes, it was beautiful too. I think people are trying too hard to be mainstream handsome, and at the risk of sounding like a hipster the most beautiful are those who don't fulfill the modern standards of beauty.


I respect your judgment and hey, if you have a more "unique" view of what you consider beauty, I think that's great...it's such an objective, personal thing.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:39 am

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:I love carrots.


Your vote should be for the "Tom Jones" option then. :D


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Postby Call to power » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:40 am

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:So, fellow men who happen to be straight: do you feel insecure if asked to comment on another guy's looks?


If I am directly calling a man sexy, then yes I may feel the need to put clarification. Looking sharp is okay but calling a guy a hot young stud who needs to be chained to my radiator all weekend might well do with a clarification unless you want things to get awkward.

This is all a bit smug of course. I think it is just generally something that is said without thinking as if calling a friend of any gender sexy is not an inherently awkward thing. It should also be added that I now feel the need to cat-call on Lancaster of Wessex whenever he posts.

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Generally speaking, commenting to a guy that you wouldn't mind a go on his little sister is a bit of a fax-pas. It might do well to add clarification as he picks her up from the nursery.
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Postby Smartass alcoholics » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:43 am

I've met quite a few handsome guys, and yet im self-conscious enough to always feel the need to add "Not gay, but..." xD
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Postby Eirenia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 am

Smartass alcoholics wrote:I've met quite a few handsome guys, and yet im self-conscious enough to always feel the need to add "Not gay, but..." xD


Because, of course, it would be terrible for anyone to believe you might be interested in men.
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Postby Arkinesia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 am

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:Inspired by this post, and the part that is bolded...

Dogapus wrote:Altough China named him Sexiest Man Alive, i'm not gay but he isn't that bad looking


...I always laugh when I see that certain men feel the need to put a glaring disclaimer of "I'm not gay" when discussing another man's looks. You'd think in this day and age that people would be able to move past such insecurities, but obviously it's still a very prevalent in society.

So, fellow men who happen to be straight: do you feel insecure if asked to comment on another guy's looks? Or do you worry frantically if you see a decent looking fellow and think, "Hey he's pretty good looking"? I myself couldn't care less, and if they have a good fashion sense and take care of themselves: more power to them!

What sayest you? All opinions from across the sexual spectrum of course, welcome!

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:45 am

Call to power wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:So, fellow men who happen to be straight: do you feel insecure if asked to comment on another guy's looks?


If I am directly calling a man sexy, then yes I may feel the need to put clarification. Looking sharp is okay but calling a guy a hot young stud who needs to be chained to my radiator all weekend might well do with a clarification unless you want things to get awkward.

This is all a bit smug of course. I think it is just generally something that is said without thinking as if calling a friend of any gender sexy is not an inherently awkward thing. It should also be added that I now feel the need to cat-call on Lancaster of Wessex whenever he posts.


I concur that there is a difference between thinking another fellow gentleman is good looking or well dressed, vis-a-vis the late-night-11PM description you followed up with afterwards.

And thank you; must be the cologne. :D
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