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TIME's Person of the Year: Obama

Postby Divair » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:46 am

http://poy.time.com/2012/12/19/person-o ... ack-obama/

Twenty-seven years after driving from New York City to Chicago in a $2,000 Honda Civic for a job that probably wouldn’t amount to much, Barack Obama, in better shape but with grayer hair, stood in the presidential suite on the top floor of the Fairmont Millennium Park hotel as flat screens announced his re-election as President of the United States. The networks called Ohio earlier than predicted, so his aides had to hightail it down the hall to join his family and friends. They encountered a room of high fives and fist pumps, hugs and relief.

The final days of any campaign can alter the psyches of even the most experienced political pros. At some point, there is nothing to do but wait. Members of Obama’s team responded in the only rational way available to them — by acting irrationally. They turned neckties into magic charms and facial hair into a talisman and compulsively repeated past behaviors so as not to jinx what seemed to be working. In Boca Raton, Fla., before the last debate, they dispatched advance staff to find a greasy-spoon diner because they had eaten at a similar joint before the second debate, on New York’s Long Island. They sent senior strategist David Axelrod a photograph of the tie he had to find to wear on election night: the same one he wore in 2008. Several staffers on Air Force One stopped shaving, like big-league hitters in the playoffs. Even the President succumbed, playing basketball on Election Day at the same court he played on before winning in 2008.

But now it was done, and reason had returned. Ever since the campaign computers started raising the odds of victory from near even to something like surefire, Obama had been thinking a lot about what it meant to win without the lightning-in-a-bottle quality of that first national campaign. The Obama effect was not ephemeral anymore, no longer reducible to what had once been mocked as “that hopey-changey stuff.” It could be measured — in wars stopped and started; industries saved, restructured or reregulated; tax cuts extended; debt levels inflated; terrorists killed; the health-insurance system reimagined; and gay service members who could walk in uniform with their partners. It could be seen in the new faces who waited hours to vote and in the new ways campaigns are run. America debated and decided this year: history would not record Obama’s presidency as a fluke.



Thoughts? I think TIME made a pretty decent choice.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:49 am

Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...
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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:49 am

its a safe choice. better than the year it was "YOU" (or was it "ME"?) but they had a few more interesting people on their list that would have been more thought provoking.

i was kinda hoping for Malala Yousufzai for the boost it would give the issue of education of girls in the islamic world.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:49 am

Good choice, I think. He's certainly important and made an impact.
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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:50 am

I thought it was a very poor choice. Malala Yousafzai should of got the time's person of the year, imo.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:51 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...

Your so Edgy and Cool and Origional and...
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Postby Sdaeriji » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:51 am

Ashmoria wrote:its a safe choice. better than the year it was "YOU" (or was it "ME"?) but they had a few more interesting people on their list that would have been more thought provoking.

i was kinda hoping for Malala Yousufzai for the boost it would give the issue of education of girls in the islamic world.


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Postby Dejanic » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:52 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...

Your so Edgy and Cool and Origional and...

Tell that to the Yemeni mothers who just lost their children in another imperialistic dronestrike.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:52 am

The safest choice, but perhaps there were better.

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:54 am

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:I thought it was a very poor choice. Malala Yousafzai should of got the time's person of the year, imo.


"Poor" is not the right word. Predictable - yes. Without merit? No.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:56 am

Dejanic wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Your so Edgy and Cool and Origional and...

Tell that to the Yemeni mothers who just lost their children in another imperialistic dronestrike.


Yes, because the US is deliberately out to kill innocent civilians, and not the jihadists who live among them.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:56 am

Shrug. A magazine giving a "person of the year" 'award' based on arbitrary criteria? Does it matter, really?

Dejanic wrote:Tell that to the Yemeni mothers who just lost their children in another imperialistic dronestrike.

:roll: Learn what words are before you use them, please, especially when it's a word like "imperialistic" which will make you look like a moron when it's even a millimetre out of place.
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Postby Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:58 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...

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Postby Nazis in Space » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:00 am

Finally the people linking Obama and Hitler have some real evidence on their hands.

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Postby Dejanic » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:00 am

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Tell that to the Yemeni mothers who just lost their children in another imperialistic dronestrike.


Yes, because the US is deliberately out to kill innocent civilians, and not the jihadists who live among them.


Murder is murder, the US chooses to drop drone strike on these areas, knowing civillians will be affected. And personally I don't think the death of innocent children can be justified in the name of "anti terrorism".
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Postby Dejanic » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:04 am

Tubbsalot wrote:Shrug. A magazine giving a "person of the year" 'award' based on arbitrary criteria? Does it matter, really?

Dejanic wrote:Tell that to the Yemeni mothers who just lost their children in another imperialistic dronestrike.

:roll: Learn what words are before you use them, please, especially when it's a word like "imperialistic" which will make you look like a moron when it's even a millimetre out of place.


I used the term correctly, why don't you prove me wrong instead of implying i'm a moron without any actual context or evidence to support your artificial "argument".
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Postby Almaniania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:05 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...

Person of the Year is for people who have been considered big names and have played a massive part in shaping the year. Obama would be one of those people. It's not about their track record (Adolph Hitler won in 1938 after all), but about how big their name is in that year. It's why FDR won the award three different times.

...Personally though, I found it interesting that PSY didn't sweep the award for this year... he was pretty damn big for half the bloody year.

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Shit. The sad part is you're totally right. This is going to be a long end of the week.
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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:05 am

Dejanic wrote:
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Yes, because the US is deliberately out to kill innocent civilians, and not the jihadists who live among them.


Murder is murder, the US chooses to drop drone strike on these areas, knowing civillians will be affected. And personally I don't think the death of innocent children can be justified in the name of "anti terrorism".


I hate the murder of innocents just as much as yourself...I wish there were a better solution to weed out those truly guilty of plotting terror or other heinous crimes to protect said innocents. :(
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Postby Disserbia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:06 am

Soviet Russia Republic wrote:I thought it was a very poor choice. Malala Yousafzai should of got the time's person of the year, imo.

What she stands for can not be overstated.
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Postby Tubbsalot » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:06 am

Dejanic wrote:I used the term correctly, why don't you prove me wrong instead of implying i'm a moron without any actual context or evidence to support your artificial "argument".

"Imperialism" implies empire-building, which traditionally would require the invasion and occupation of an area, and even in a more modern looser sense would require something more than killing people in another country.

A tourist who kills one of the other hotel customers isn't an imperalist.

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Postby Ionicus » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:08 am

Sad to hear Kim Jong Un didn't win person of the year. He was the top candidate in the votes, but I suppose Time's editors chose to ignore that.

EDIT: There were 5.6 million votes for him.
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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:09 am

Yankee Empire wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Well its not as if its the first time Time had a war criminal as Person of the Year...

Your so Edgy and Cool and Origional and...


Not really at all that edgy and I'm far too old to be thought of as cool.

I consider Obama a war criminal through his use of drone attacks that are killing kids as well as the authorised targeting of children.

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:10 am

Ionicus wrote:Sad to hear Kim Jong Un didn't win person of the year. He was the top candidate in the votes, but I suppose Time's editors chose to ignore that.

EDIT: There were 5.6 million votes for him.


mr kim has many years to prove himself as man of the year. im sure that in the coming decades he will be chosen many times.
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Postby Almaniania » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:11 am

Ionicus wrote:Sad to hear Kim Jong Un didn't win person of the year. He was the top candidate in the votes, but I suppose Time's editors chose to ignore that.

EDIT: There were 5.6 million votes for him.

I'm disappointed with the chosen runner ups... Kim Jong Un isn't even on there. Neither is PSY or Steven Colbert.

An okay choice for Person of the Year... not so much for the runner ups. Well, at least it wasn't like the Nobel Peace Prize to the EU... that made little to no sense for 2012.
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Postby Dogapus » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:14 am

Ionicus wrote:Sad to hear Kim Jong Un didn't win person of the year. He was the top candidate in the votes, but I suppose Time's editors chose to ignore that.

EDIT: There were 5.6 million votes for him.

Altough China named him Sexiest Man Alive, i'm not gay but he isn't that bad looking
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