School Shooting in Connecticut - Multiple Fatalities

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

I'm picturing the parents.

On christmas' eve.

Staring at the tree.

Staring at the gift-wrapped presents under it.

Unopened.

Forever.

Poignant. Well put. I do believe I just shed a tear or six thousand.

[Typhlochactas]

I thought she was a teacher there, and he shot her in the class room.

She was a teacher. Just saw a report she was shot at home and then he went to the school and shot the class.

The wikipedia article heavily implies that she was in the class room.

[The Black Forrest]

It's worst then that.

The mother was shot at home.

No, the father was. The mother was the teacher.

My first bit was from the TV

Fox news.....sorry reported she was shot at home. Not sure it's valid.....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/14/at ... ut-school/

edit

CNN reported the same thing.....

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/sh ... ?hpt=hp_t1

[Ifreann]

This:

What? I'm not praying for them. Prayers don't do anything.

Prayers will do just what your condolences will. Make those of us left behind feel better.

However, that doesn't mean I can't give condolences.

I never said you couldn't.

[Stedicules]

It's worst then that.

The mother was shot at home.

No, the father was. The mother was the teacher.

the father died at home, the mother, the teacher of the 18 children killed, was killed first in class.

[Ebenum Reipublicae]

It seems like there are a lot of school shootings in the US. What's up with that?

It's extremely messed up.
Sicne the 90s, people have been waltsing straight in to schools and shooting them up. Columbine, Virginia Tech, and now this Connecticut shooting. It's unbelievable that people would even do things like that...

[The Black Forrest]

No, the father was. The mother was the teacher.

the father died at home, the mother, the teacher of the 18 children killed, was killed first in class.

As mentioned above. News is saying the mother died at home. links above.....

[Ifreann]

It seems like there are a lot of school shootings in the US. What's up with that?

It's extremely messed up.
Sicne the 90s, people have been waltsing straight in to schools and shooting them up. Columbine, Virginia Tech, and now this Connecticut shooting. It's unbelievable that people would even do things like that...

It having happened several times makes it entirely too believable.

[Neutraligon]

So other than tightening/loosening gun control, what do you think can be doe to stop incidents like this?

Also, NIS you made me cry,again.

[Stedicules]

the father died at home, the mother, the teacher of the 18 children killed, was killed first in class.

As mentioned above. News is saying the mother died at home. links above.....

the news i've seen is saying she died in the classroom.

[The Zeonic States]

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

[Typhlochactas]

the father died at home, the mother, the teacher of the 18 children killed, was killed first in class.

As mentioned above. News is saying the mother died at home. links above.....

Adam Lanza appeared at the Sandy Hook elementary school "just after 9:30 a.m. this morning," according to Lt. Paul Vance of the state police. He opened fire over 100 times on the schoolchildren and administrators, specifically choosing the class his mother Nancy taught as a teacher at Sandy Hook, CNBC reported. The 52-year-old was killed at the scene, while Lanza's father was found dead in New Jersey.

[Frisivisia]

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

Tighter regulation is what the anti-gun crowd wants. They don't want to ban guns. They don't want to take your guns. Just tighten regulations.

[The Black Forrest]

As mentioned above. News is saying the mother died at home. links above.....

Adam Lanza appeared at the Sandy Hook elementary school "just after 9:30 a.m. this morning," according to Lt. Paul Vance of the state police. He opened fire over 100 times on the schoolchildren and administrators, specifically choosing the class his mother Nancy taught as a teacher at Sandy Hook, CNBC reported. The 52-year-old was killed at the scene, while Lanza's father was found dead in New Jersey.

Link it please.

The two I listed says shot at home and one said no body at New Jersey.....

[Souseiseki]

I'm picturing the parents.

On christmas' eve.

Staring at the tree.

Staring at the gift-wrapped presents under it.

Unopened.

Forever.

oh man i bet they're all making really stupid posts heh NSG is so silYOU BASTARD

[Ubermenschklippe]

Here's a thought worth considering. Sayeth the Wikipedia, "of nearly 31,000 firearm-related deaths in 2005, suicides account for 55 percent of deaths in the United States..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics#Statistics

Perhaps it's a little out of date, but whatever. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I would assume that these deaths would have occured regardless of whether or not a gun was available - after all, there are many equally effective ways of killing oneself.

A certain number of fatalities, then, could be avoided by addressing the factors that make people want to kill themselves. Sayeth the Wikipedia: "A 2009 U.S. Army report indicates military veterans have double the suicide rate of non-veterans, and more active-duty soldiers are dying from suicide than in combat in the Iraq War (2003-2011) and War in Afghanistan (2001–present)...Suicide rates for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and questioning (LGBTQ) youth and adults in the U.S. are three times higher than national averages..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_the_United_States

Based on this, I'd prescribe bringing the troops home and ending discrimination against the LGBT community.

As for the firearm-related homicides, it's well known that the vast majority of them occur in the inner city, where high population density leads to few job opportunities, resulting in enterprising individuals attempting to advance their ecomomic status by forming gangs to peddle various illicit substances. Disputes regarding these gangs and substances, as well as poorly-excecuted robberies perpetrated by individuals attempting to gain money to pay for aforementioned illicit substances, lead to homicides.

There are numerous ways to address those issues without forcing law-abiding citizens to give up their guns. Were I in a position of power, I would simply hire inner-city dwellers to go build a highway or some basic housing somewhere, and pay for it by getting rid of some tax deductions, most of which are incredibly ill-conceived anyway. Other options include, but are not limited to, a citizens' stipend or burning down anyplace with a high population density.

And finally, regarding the sort of unpredictable maniacs who shoot up schools... as far as I'm concerned, if they weren't using guns, they'd be using homemade bombs or whathaveyou. You can't legislate against being an unpredictable maniac. You can only endeavor, as a culture, to drive less people to emotional instability, and I'd start by being reasonable and polite on internet forums.

Now you may proceed, if you are so inclined, to tell me why I am an idiot.

[The Zeonic States]

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

Tighter regulation is what the anti-gun crowd wants. They don't want to ban guns. They don't want to take your guns. Just tighten regulations.

Tell that to the Anti Gun lobbyists telling folks that guns should be banned entirely; As long as those folks are in plain sight then the Anti Gun movement is doomed to be pictured in that light.

[Northern Dominus]

So other than tightening/loosening gun control, what do you think can be doe to stop incidents like this?

Also, NIS you made me cry,again.

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

Oh for crying out loud, can there be ONE day, ONE DAMN DAY, between a tragedy and the inevitable bullshit politicising? How about stepping back and thinking "You know what, there are people out there in a lot of pain because of this, maybe my energy would be best put to work helping them in some fashion rather than debating what this means to my own personal views."

Is that too much to ask, that maybe we all take care of our extended American, or better yet HUMAN family first who need somebody to lean on and shoulder to cry into, or does every fucking thing no matter how heinous or awful have to become some sort of springboard for somebody to dive off of and into the swirling shitty miasma of "I'm right and this proves it"?

[Typhlochactas]

Link it please.

The two I listed says shot at home and one said no body at New Jersey.....

This thing.

[Frisivisia]

Tighter regulation is what the anti-gun crowd wants. They don't want to ban guns. They don't want to take your guns. Just tighten regulations.

Tell that to the Anti Gun lobbyists telling folks that guns should be banned entirely; As long as those folks are in plain sight then the Anti Gun movement is doomed to be pictured in that light.

I've never seen these gun-banners. Do they live at the North Pole, or maybe at the end of the rainbow?

[Napkiraly]

Tell that to the Anti Gun lobbyists telling folks that guns should be banned entirely; As long as those folks are in plain sight then the Anti Gun movement is doomed to be pictured in that light.

I've never seen these gun-banners. Do they live at the North Pole, or maybe at the end of the rainbow?

Probably the Matrix.

[The Zeonic States]

So other than tightening/loosening gun control, what do you think can be doe to stop incidents like this?

Also, NIS you made me cry,again.

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

Oh for crying out loud, can there be ONE day, ONE DAMN DAY, between a tragedy and the inevitable bullshit politicising? How about stepping back and thinking "You know what, there are people out there in a lot of pain because of this, maybe my energy would be best put to work helping them in some fashion rather than debating what this means to my own personal views."

Is that too much to ask, that maybe we all take care of our extended American, or better yet HUMAN family first who need somebody to lean on and shoulder to cry into, or does every fucking thing no matter how heinous or awful have to become some sort of springboard for somebody to dive off of and into the swirling shitty miasma of "I'm right and this proves it"?

Barring me from baring Arms within the United States will not bring those people back to life and with every shooting incident like this it sparks up the debate again.

[Salandriagado]

It seems remarkable just how calmly and efficiently everybody from the teachers to the police managed to deal with this, under the circumstances.

[Marcurix]

So other than tightening/loosening gun control, what do you think can be doe to stop incidents like this?

Also, NIS you made me cry,again.

Another Messed up incident but it shouldn't be fuel for Anti gun policies.

Perhaps tighter regulation to access to them but that would be as far as i would be willing to go.

Said the samething about Columbine; Ironically i was within Colorado at a gunshow that very day in 99.

Oh for crying out loud, can there be ONE day, ONE DAMN DAY, between a tragedy and the inevitable bullshit politicising? How about stepping back and thinking "You know what, there are people out there in a lot of pain because of this, maybe my energy would be best put to work helping them in some fashion rather than debating what this means to my own personal views."

Is that too much to ask, that maybe we all take care of our extended American, or better yet HUMAN family first who need somebody to lean on and shoulder to cry into, or does every fucking thing no matter how heinous or awful have to become some sort of springboard for somebody to dive off of and into the swirling shitty miasma of "I'm right and this proves it"?

I'm sorry to say it is, everyone thinks they have a point to prove and they'll jump on the chance to use it.

Best just to keep you thoughts with the families, its where they need to be.

[Crystal Spires]

Also, NIS you made me cry,again.

*Hugs*

I know that feel.... Ugh man... I can empathize with people who want to do something about it, anything about it. But we can't do anything now for them. They're gone.