School Shooting in Connecticut - Multiple Fatalities

[San Leggera]

The Newtown Police Chief has just confirmed the death of (but not identified) Ryan's father.

[Towson]

I posted a comment on that on the Gangnam Style Video.
It got 9 likes.

[Ifreann]

Yeah, see, NSG isn't really the public. CNN isn't watching us. What we say isn't going to be whispered in the ears of grieving parents or traumatised children.

Precisely. NSG could care less if a meteor wiped out half the Earth's population.

Depends which half. Losing the US might slow the forum down.

[Czechanada]

This is disgusting. It is also disgusting that everyone here is blaming guns. The deadliest American school attack was in 1927 and was carried out with a bomb. Could it be that kids today are raised in a world where killing is glorified on TV, in media, and in video games?

If your hypothesis was correct, there would be far more shootings.

[Tubbsalot]

This is disgusting. It is also disgusting that everyone here is blaming guns. The deadliest American school attack was in 1927 and was carried out with a bomb. Could it be that kids today are raised in a world where killing is glorified on TV, in media, and in video games?

Er, well, no, it couldn't. Supposedly he targeted the class because his mother was teaching it (and the killer wasn't quite a 'kid').

[Wikkiwallana]

And if it turns out to be true, this tragedy can be laid at the feet of gun control nuts, so once again gun control has caused the deaths of innocent people.

What?

[Yes Im Biop]

What kind of sick son of a bitch shoot's up a Elementary school?

[Iowa the Nation]

This is disgusting. It is also disgusting that everyone here is blaming guns. The deadliest American school attack was in 1927 and was carried out with a bomb. Could it be that kids today are raised in a world where killing is glorified on TV, in media, and in video games?

If your hypothesis was correct, there would be far more shootings.

There are a lot of shootings or other attacks, I don't mean just mass murders like this.

[Neo Arcad]

This is disgusting. It is also disgusting that everyone here is blaming guns. The deadliest American school attack was in 1927 and was carried out with a bomb. Could it be that kids today are raised in a world where killing is glorified on TV, in media, and in video games?

Er, well, no, it couldn't. Supposedly he targeted the class because his mother was teaching it (and the killer wasn't quite a 'kid').

You're missing the underlying point, though. The fact that this guy thought violence was an acceptable solution to his problems is in and of itself an issue.

[Ceannairceach]

What kind of sick son of a bitch shoot's up a Elementary school?

The same kind that killed three fourths of his family.

[Takaram]

What kind of sick son of a bitch shoot's up a Elementary school?

I'd be careful with calling him a son of a bitch, since his mother was one of the teachers killed. And sick is exactly the right word to describe him.

[Bafuria]

It seems like there are a lot of school shootings in the US. What's up with that?

They are actually pretty rare in the US and have not grown more common over the years, the annual risk for the average American of dying in a shooting spree is roughly 1 in 3 million. (100 people die on average each year in mass shootings in America)

America just has a very large population so they seem much more common. If Northern- and Western Europe was one country it would have roughly the same population and we would regularly hear news of mass shootings there as well.

[Iowa the Nation]

This is disgusting. It is also disgusting that everyone here is blaming guns. The deadliest American school attack was in 1927 and was carried out with a bomb. Could it be that kids today are raised in a world where killing is glorified on TV, in media, and in video games?

Er, well, no, it couldn't. Supposedly he targeted the class because his mother was teaching it (and the killer wasn't quite a 'kid').

Who knows what's going on...the media's reporting on what kind of guns the shooter used has changed faster than the tires on a racecar.

[Tubbsalot]

There are a lot of shootings or other attacks, I don't mean just mass murders like this.

And you're arguing that those shootings are caused by TV and games, rather than - just as an example - guns.

[Czechanada]

If your hypothesis was correct, there would be far more shootings.

There are a lot of shootings or other attacks, I don't mean just mass murders like this.

Yeah, it's not like there are other factors or anything.

[San Leggera]

America just has a very large population so they seem much more common. If Northern- and Western Europe was one country it would have roughly the same population and we would regularly hear news of mass shootings there as well.

I can't speak of others, but I live in Europe and have only heard of one European mass-shooting in the last year...

[Takaram]

Er, well, no, it couldn't. Supposedly he targeted the class because his mother was teaching it (and the killer wasn't quite a 'kid').

You're missing the underlying point, though. The fact that this guy thought violence was an acceptable solution to his problems is in and of itself an issue.

Yes, but to blame that on the media and modern culture is to ignore the fact that people have been using violence to solve their problems for millennia

[Tubbsalot]

Who knows what's going on...the media's reporting on what kind of guns the shooter used has changed faster than the tires on a racecar.

Yeah, and they were reporting before that his mother's body had been found at her home. So my statement is only valid if this turns out to be the final version.

[Arkiasis]

It's now 20 children dead, 6 school staff members, and the gunman.

[North Calaveras]

There are a lot of shootings or other attacks, I don't mean just mass murders like this.

And you're arguing that those shootings are caused by TV and games, rather than - just as an example - guns.

Prove that guns are the reason behind the killings please cause as far as I can tell a homicidal person was behind the killings not an inanimate object.

Murders are not caused by guns, murders are caused by someone who wants to kill another person.

[The UK in Exile]

And if it turns out to be true, this tragedy can be laid at the feet of gun control nuts, so once again gun control has caused the deaths of innocent people.

What?

if only kindergarten students were allowed to carry guns, it wouldn't have happened. apparently.

[Malgrave]

Er, well, no, it couldn't. Supposedly he targeted the class because his mother was teaching it (and the killer wasn't quite a 'kid').

You're missing the underlying point, though. The fact that this guy thought violence was an acceptable solution to his problems is in and of itself an issue.

also the fact he could get his hands on a riffle without even requiring a permit.

[Ceannairceach]

It's now 20 children dead, 6 school staff members, and the gunman.

And his father, and his brother, and apparently some random guy nearby...

[Liriena]

Impeach Obama!

If it weren't for his anti-gun bullcrap, all students there would have been armed and ready to kill that bastard!

[Neo Arcad]

You're missing the underlying point, though. The fact that this guy thought violence was an acceptable solution to his problems is in and of itself an issue.

Yes, but to blame that on the media and modern culture is to ignore the fact that people have been using violence to solve their problems for millennia

I never said I blamed the media. Certainly I don't blame video games. Do you know how many CoD players turn out to be mass murderers? I don't, but I'd hypothesise that the rate is lower than the general one.
No, there IS an underlying issue here, but it's not the media alone that's perpetuating it.