Obama The Communist? May Be More Marxist Than American!

[Oneracon]

The moment you used Fox News we all gave up on arguing with you.

Even more so the Fox News opinions section

[Dyakovo]

Neither you or I exist anymore, Cani.

At least we have each other!

Do we really have each other though? /existential crisis

Yes.
I now declare you man and wife. You may kiss the bride.

[Genivaria]

Now a lot of people will blow this off as a load of crap, but if you open your eyes and embrace truth, you will see the light. The man is a communist, why? I don't need to look at his history of pre-politics to tell you like D'nesh Desouza did. Just look at his so called "agenda".

Way to not sound like a cultist dude. Also you don't know what communism is.

[Kvatchdom]

The moment you used Fox News we all gave up on arguing with you.

Even more so the Fox News opinions section

Quite.

[Khadgar]

Yes, clearly missing someone's post is a clear denial of reality. Especially when the post I responded with had a direct quote as to which argument I was contesting. Please form your personal attacks more logically in the next iteration.


I see you are using the Washington Post and the Huffington Post, traditional liberal media outlets. Practically cheerleaders for the left. Most of which is the NRA saying that Obama plans on targeting these rights. Ok. One even has an ad saying that Obama is planning on kicking it into high gear.

I shall counter blatant left articles with blatant right articles:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/ ... -stopping/ Obama wants to use tax dollars to subsidize lobbying for more gun control. Makes sense, government spending money to fund the shaping of the government. Not to mention Fast and Furious (I'm surprised you didn't put up any conspiracy theories about this). Since they did it when they wanted to bolster the argument that the US was aiding cartels in geting arms from the US.

The Obama administration instituted a ban on importing "historic" semi-automatic rifles into the US. The administration instituted new rules on selling "high-powered rifles," defined as a caliber of greater than .22. -- The administration nominated Andrew Traver, someone who supports gun bans, as the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Obama’s most lasting impact on gun control is likely to be through the federal court judges he appoints. His most visible appointments have been the gun-control advocates he has made to the Supreme Court.
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But that is just info from the right. I'll present less biased info when confronted with less biased arguments.

The moment you used Fox News we all gave up on arguing with you.

I gave up three pages ago when he ignored everything said.

[Evraim]

Do we really have each other though? /existential crisis

Yes.
I now declare you man and wife. You may kiss the bride.

What? I'm too young to be married! And to a member of the Catholic clergy? Papa's not going to be happy...

[Laerod]

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Not that I expect you to read any of it, given your explicit denial of reality.

Yes, clearly missing someone's post is a clear denial of reality. Especially when the post I responded with had a direct quote as to which argument I was contesting. Please form your personal attacks more logically in the next iteration.

No, I'm referring to you pretending that you can just dismiss a fact-checking site that shows its work (and that given it's favorable treatment of Republicans no less).

I see you are using the Washington Post and the Huffington Post, traditional liberal media outlets.

And there you go again. Get yourself some intellectual honesty. When you're ready to discuss things as a sensible adult, feel free to let us know.

[Soul Edge]

Best President? A lot of people voted for that... please tell me it's a joke.

He fed the American economy to the Chinese sharks.

[Trotskylvania]

If the present is a secret communist, the this not-secret communist is disappointed with thim.

He wouldn't even make a serious push for card check when he had the votes. Some kind of patron of radical labor...

[Dyakovo]

Best President? A lot of people voted for that... please tell me it's a joke.

He fed the American economy to the Chinese sharks.

The entire poll is a joke.

[Caninope]

Yes.
I now declare you man and wife. You may kiss the bride.

What? I'm too young to be married! And to a member of the Catholic clergy? Papa's not going to be happy...

Nah, I'm a Southern Baptist Pope.

What? If all it takes to be ordained is to be elected by a congregation, I reckon I can declare myself pope.

[Laerod]

What alternate universe do you live in where the Washington Post is a liberal cheerleader?

Right-wing blogosphere. The Echochamber.

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

Joseph Stalin was a communist as well, and many jews and whites were exterminated in Russian Gulags.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... talin.html
Bolshevism is a Communist, third worldist political ideology that is fervently anti-Semitic. Just as much so as Euro-Fascists.
Robert Mugabe, Nelson Mandela , Jacob Zuma, and Hugo Chavez are 4 examples of radical communist 3rd world dictators who hate jews.

In other news, monkeys can now fly
More bullshi* at 11.

[Tyriece]

Alot of these things i myself as a American are 100% for, some of them Obama is not himself for, and a smaller amount of this is simply not true at all...

[Khadgar]

Best President? A lot of people voted for that... please tell me it's a joke.

He fed the American economy to the Chinese sharks.

That's been going on for years, a decade at least.

[Wikkiwallana]

When did "Marxist" become a nationality?

[Immoren]

Obama is as much communist as I am a neo-nazi.

[Gallogach]

Yes, clearly missing someone's post is a clear denial of reality. Especially when the post I responded with had a direct quote as to which argument I was contesting. Please form your personal attacks more logically in the next iteration.


I see you are using the Washington Post and the Huffington Post, traditional liberal media outlets. Practically cheerleaders for the left. Most of which is the NRA saying that Obama plans on targeting these rights. Ok. One even has an ad saying that Obama is planning on kicking it into high gear.

I shall counter blatant left articles with blatant right articles:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/ ... -stopping/ Obama wants to use tax dollars to subsidize lobbying for more gun control. Makes sense, government spending money to fund the shaping of the government. Not to mention Fast and Furious (I'm surprised you didn't put up any conspiracy theories about this). Since they did it when they wanted to bolster the argument that the US was aiding cartels in geting arms from the US.

The Obama administration instituted a ban on importing "historic" semi-automatic rifles into the US. The administration instituted new rules on selling "high-powered rifles," defined as a caliber of greater than .22. -- The administration nominated Andrew Traver, someone who supports gun bans, as the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives. Obama’s most lasting impact on gun control is likely to be through the federal court judges he appoints. His most visible appointments have been the gun-control advocates he has made to the Supreme Court.
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But that is just info from the right. I'll present less biased info when confronted with less biased arguments.

The moment you used Fox News we all gave up on arguing with you.

And that juvenile response is why I view leftists as narrow-minded bigots.

Same thing with the quote: I gave up three pages ago when he ignored everything said.

You have no interest in hearing differing opinions. You just want to sit in a sea of like minded people. All should be shunned, ignored, or beaten into submission.


Either way, I responded to your leftist arguments with a right wing argument in kind. Never once said that is my opinion. Believe me when I say my opinion will be viewed as far more revolting to you. And I shall give it since neither of you gave me anything to actually contend of vale in terms of argument: Democrats are socialists and Republicans are socialists light.

If you want to focus on gun control, they are both wrong. If you read the 2nd amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

By the original intent, it is not just the ability to own guns. It is the ability for people to freely come together and form their own militias. In fact, it wasn't a right, it was considered the civic duty. That amendment was rooted in English law dealing with how barons used to fill the King's army at a moment's notice without maintaining constant costs of a standing army. Eventually the barons realized that since they had all the armies, they could force the King to submit to a basic code of laws (the magna carta) where even royalty was bound to abide by. Therefore it was seen in the US as the duty of the average citizen to maintain not only his arms, but proficiently use them in defense of the state should the federal government become a corrupt tyrant.

Therefore all your gun laws are, for the most part, an attack on the 2nd amendment.

[Soul Edge]

Best President? A lot of people voted for that... please tell me it's a joke.

He fed the American economy to the Chinese sharks.

That's been going on for years, a decade at least.

Yep, with it sky-rocketing in the past four years.... nuff said.

[Evraim]

When did "Marxist" become a nationality?

A few decades before "Fascist" became a term denoting all right-wing political movements.

What? I'm too young to be married! And to a member of the Catholic clergy? Papa's not going to be happy...

Nah, I'm a Southern Baptist Pope.

What? If all it takes to be ordained is to be elected by a congregation, I reckon I can declare myself pope.

At least, our babies will be Jewish.

Do you think I could do the same? Declare myself pope, I mean.

[CVT Temp]

Why don't we have any clever right-wingers who regularly post "Obama is pushing a policy I disagree with"?

Because you only agree with far right Ayn Randian capitalism if you're either exceptionally rich or a deluded ideologue. Since there aren't that many uber rich people here, guess who attacks Obama?

[Wikkiwallana]

26. Bill Aires.
27. Reverand Jerimiah Wright.

Amongst all the lies, distortions, and plain old stupidities in that list, these stuck out to me the most. People are not a political agenda.

Also, it's Ayers, not Aires, and the word is Reverend, with an e.

[Zweite Alaje]

Obama is as much communist as I am a neo-nazi.

Obama is as much communist as I am liberal.

[Korya]

When did "Marxist" become a nationality?

The moment Obama won the 2008 election.

[Kvatchdom]

The moment you used Fox News we all gave up on arguing with you.

And that juvenile response is why I view leftists as narrow-minded bigots.

Same thing with the quote: I gave up three pages ago when he ignored everything said.

You have no interest in hearing differing opinions. You just want to sit in a sea of like minded people. All should be shunned, ignored, or beaten into submission.


Either way, I responded to your leftist arguments with a right wing argument in kind. Never once said that is my opinion. Believe me when I say my opinion will be viewed as far more revolting to you. And I shall give it since neither of you gave me anything to actually contend of vale in terms of argument: Democrats are socialists and Republicans are socialists light.

If you want to focus on gun control, they are both wrong. If you read the 2nd amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

By the original intent, it is not just the ability to own guns. It is the ability for people to freely come together and form their own militias. In fact, it wasn't a right, it was considered the civic duty. That amendment was rooted in English law dealing with how barons used to fill the King's army at a moment's notice without maintaining constant costs of a standing army. Eventually the barons realized that since they had all the armies, they could force the King to submit to a basic code of laws (the magna carta) where even royalty was bound to abide by. Therefore it was seen in the US as the duty of the average citizen to maintain not only his arms, but proficiently use them in defense of the state should the federal government become a corrupt tyrant.

Therefore all your gun laws are, for the most part, an attack on the 2nd amendment.

You do realize that Fox News is just fucking dumb? Not even a right-winger should use it.

I'm actually pretty alone in Finland, being one of the only Socialist-Corporatists out there. And even our furthest right-wing doesn't ever use Fox News. Ever.

How are the Democrats socialists after upkeeping a capitalist economy with a few social reforms to keep the workers in their place? The Republican Party may have been social democratic about a hundred years ago, but not anymore at all. America doesn't have a left anymore.

I'm pro-gun, and I oppose controlling it. Hi. I live in Finland, where we have some of the laxest gun control in Europe, and it's the right-wing and the centre that attack that right, not the left.

Indeed. Wasn't it Jefferson who said that in order to keep America good, a revolution must happen every now and then? That's if I remember right.