Obama The Communist? May Be More Marxist Than American!

[Arcturan Separatists]

For Christ's sake we are in debt!
How do you supply free healthcare to 375,000,000 people!?
Obama knows how!
DEATH PANELS.
A group that decides wether it is cost efficient to keep you alive if you end up hospitalized. Gr8 idea! Just another gr8 idea from Whitehouse.gov.
And France is having a lovely time with it.
Riots in the streets, anarchy over retirement age, yup things are just dandy!

The Bush tax cuts drove up the majority of the deficit and debt.
How do you pay for universal healthcare (which by the way Obamacare is not) is by paying taxes. Death panels? That rhetoric means you are not to be taken seriously.
France is fine. Number one in the world for healthcare. Although they would riot over a soggy baguette. Like everyone else they are going through the GFC.

I'm having trouble finding any real coherency in OP's argument...

[Priory Academy USSR]

I wonder how many people here actually understand what our debt really means and how it truly effects us? Seems to me more and more are just using it as a statement to stir up fear.

Almost no one. People just scream "OMG $16 TRILLION IN DEBT! OBAMA IS THE DEVIL!" even though they don't understand government debt.

You need to add a few more !1!1!1! to make it realistic.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

The Bush tax cuts drove up the majority of the deficit and debt.
How do you pay for universal healthcare (which by the way Obamacare is not) is by paying taxes. Death panels? That rhetoric means you are not to be taken seriously.
France is fine. Number one in the world for healthcare. Although they would riot over a soggy baguette. Like everyone else they are going through the GFC.

I'm having trouble finding any real coherency in OP's argument...

That's because there isn't any.

It's like looking for money in the Greek national treasury.

[Wikkiwallana]

tax raises bring in too little revenue while trying to stimulate the economy takes too long

Care to source those claims?

[SaintB]

As for weak foreign policy I'd like to see what people think is so weak about it.

Mostly imaginary things he's been accused of that he would never actually do in a million years. The "apology tours" myth, for example.

He's weak on foreign policy because we haven't invaded anyone in the last 5 years and have distanced ourselves from Israel when they get all looney on us and want us to nuke whatever Muslim nation has their dander up this week. He's weak on foreign policy because we didn't invade North Korea when they switched leaders or firebomb half their country when they launched a rocket into outer space.
That's what I can gather anyway...

[Marshonia]

For further notice in case nobody knew, I'M NOT A BUSH FAN! I'm a reagen fan! I support constitutionalist america! Bush was anything but constitutionalist! Jesus!
And if anyone says that control economy, high income tax, and redistribution is not communisitc, plz get an education higher than a middle school graduation slip. Read the communist manifesto and mao's little red book. Maybe you'll learn something. Try to comprehend that the rich get that way by enterprise. And if you think the poor are constantly taken advantage of by the rich, the 1800's called, they want their revolutionaries back. Obama wants the rich to leave so he can collapse the economy. Why? So that when the dollar crashes due to massive debt and hyperinflation, he can reshape society the way he wants to. I can tell he will by his actions, I don't think there is any president stupid enough to spend the way he does without realizing that the currency will lose all value. If and when he does collapse the currency, have fun with the sheer anarchy that follows up. I'm not really as concerned with my status of finance anymore, I've been broke most of my life, losing what little I have left won't make much difference to me. It's the rest of the country and world that I worry about. Everyone will be permanently broke, there will be starvation, disease, anarchy, and many of you who are not prepared will die! I will be sitting in my undisclosed location and laughing at you idiots! Its coming sooner than you think! I live near a rich neighborhood and let me tell you! They are leaving IN DROVES!

[Khadgar]

For further notice in case nobody knew, I'M NOT A BUSH FAN! I'm a reagen fan! I support constitutionalist america! Bush was anything but constitutionalist! :palm: Jesus!
And if anyone says that control economy, high income tax, and redistribution is not communisitc, plz get an education higher than a middle school graduation slip. Read the communist manifesto and mao's little red book. Maybe you'll learn something. Try to comprehend that the rich get that way by enterprise. And if you think the poor are constantly taken advantage of by the rich, the 1800's called, they want their revolutionaries back. Obama wants the rich to leave so he can collapse the economy. Why? So that when the dollar crashes due to massive debt and hyperinflation, he can reshape society the way he wants to. I can tell he will by his actions, I don't think there is any president stupid enough to spend the way he does without realizing that the currency will lose all value. If and when he does collapse the currency, have fun with the sheer anarchy that follows up. I'm not really as concerned with my status of finance anymore, I've been broke most of my life, losing what little I have left won't make much difference to me. It's the rest of the country and world that I worry about. Everyone will be permanently broke, there will be starvation, disease, anarchy, and many of you who are not prepared will die! I will be sitting in my undisclosed location and laughing at you idiots! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Its coming sooner than you think! I live near a rich neighborhood and let me tell you! They are leaving IN DROVES!

Yes, you can tell his will by his actions, and the fact you've got nothing to back any of your bullshit up is irrelevant. The fact you've ignored every bit of proof against you is irrelevant because you KNOW the truth. Good for you tiger.

[Wikkiwallana]

For further notice in case nobody knew, I'M NOT A BUSH FAN!

No one said anything suggesting such. No one cares.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

For further notice in case nobody knew, I'M NOT A BUSH FAN! I'm a reagen fan!

Ah, so you support terrorism and selling weaponry to Iran. Thanks for that.

I support constitutionalist america! Bush was anything but constitutionalist! Jesus!

Neither was Reagan.

And if anyone says that control economy, high income tax, and redistribution is not communisitc,

Correct, it isn't. Communism is anarchistic and based around common ownership of the means of production, not state ownership, because widespread nationalisation of anything outside utilities is bloody stupid.

plz get an education higher than a middle school graduation slip. Read the communist manifesto and mao's little red book.

I've read the manifesto, it's why I know that communism is anarchistic.

Mao wasn't a communist.

Maybe you'll learn something.

You clearly didn't.

Try to comprehend that the rich get that way by enterprise. And if you think the poor are constantly taken advantage of by the rich, the 1800's called, they want their revolutionaries back.

Nice to know that you don't know how profit or capitalism works.

Obama wants the rich to leave so he can collapse the economy.

Source.

Why? So that when the dollar crashes due to massive debt and hyperinflation, he can reshape society the way he wants to.

You have no proof except your own fevered imaginings.

I can tell he will by his actions,

Watch out, guys, we've got a psychic over here.

I don't think there is any president stupid enough to spend the way he does without realizing that the currency will lose all value.

If and when he does collapse the currency, have fun with the sheer anarchy that follows up. I'm not really as concerned with my status of finance anymore, I've been broke most of my life, losing what little I have left won't make much difference to me. It's the rest of the country and world that I worry about. Everyone will be permanently broke, there will be starvation, disease, anarchy, and many of you who are not prepared will die! I will be sitting in my undisclosed location and laughing at you idiots! Its coming sooner than you think! I live near a rich neighborhood and let me tell you! They are leaving IN DROVES!

I'm not going to bother with demolishing this, because I'm a lazy commie and it's just too sourceless for me to want to bother.

[Zaras]

For further notice in case nobody knew, I'M NOT A BUSH FAN! I'm a reagen fan!

You hate one of the worst presidents the USA's ever had, but you love one of the original worst presidents the USA's ever had? That's not saying "I'm not a fan of racism! I'm a fan of white supremacy!".

I support constitutionalist america! Bush was anything but constitutionalist! Jesus!

You're quite pathetically small-minded if that's the main thing that pisses you off about Bush.

And if anyone says that control economy, high income tax, and redistribution is not communisitc, plz get an education higher than a middle school graduation slip.

Take your own advice before making posts about an ideology you clearly don't have a fucking clue about. Communism does not involve a planned economy, since it's about the common ownership of the means of production. Communism doesn't involve a high income tax because it's a stateless, classless, currencyless society.

Now who needs some bloody education, huh?

Read the communist manifesto and mao's little red book. Maybe you'll learn something.

The first thing you'll learn is that Mao is not a communist, and anybody who claims otherwise is uneducated.

Try to comprehend that the rich get that way by enterprise

Enterprise on the backs of the labour of workers they hire, pay miserable wages to, force to do overtime, deny benefits to, etc.

Obama wants the rich to leave so he can collapse the economy.

And I want you to leave so you can start writing with more intelligence instead of word-puking idiotic shit like this.

I can tell he will by his actions

I can tell you don't know shit and are pathetically uninformed and ignorant about the world.

I don't think there is any president stupid enough to spend the way he does without realizing that the currency will lose all value.

Stop trying to talk about a subject you clearly don't understand. There's this thing called devaluation and an entire dismal science called economics. Lrn2economics before writing.

If and when he does collapse the currency, have fun with the sheer anarchy that follows up.

It's not going to happen, so please spare us the tiresome crazy conspiracy-theorist apocalyptowank.

Everyone will be permanently broke, there will be starvation, disease, anarchy, and many of you who are not prepared will die!

Serves people right for being fucking stupid enough to vote for the Republicans.

I will be sitting in my undisclosed location and laughing at you idiots!

Flaming does not an argument make.

Now please, take your tiresome John Bircher paranoid apocalypse-masturbation elsewhere.

[Stovokor]

Yeah, I don't know why I read these threads, I swear it's like watching Michele Bachmann attempting to give a rational speach.

Oh wait, that's why.. speaking of which I just thought of a great new drinking game!

[Zaras]

Yeah, I don't know why I read these threads, I swear it's like watching Michele Bachmann attempting to give a rational speach.

Oh wait, that's why.. speaking of which I just thought of a great new drinking game!

Take a shot every time Bachmann says something crazy?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yeah, I don't know why I read these threads, I swear it's like watching Michele Bachmann attempting to give a rational speach.

Oh wait, that's why.. speaking of which I just thought of a great new drinking game!

Take a shot every time Bachmann says something crazy?

The liver says no, but the humour centre of the brain says yes.

[Zaras]

Take a shot every time Bachmann says something crazy?

The liver says no, but the humour centre of the brain says yes.

I keep wondering how long before she gets institutionalised like she obviously needs to.

Something tells me it's gonna be quite long. Possibly never.

[Grand Soviet Union]

That's because there isn't any.

It's like looking for money in the Greek national treasury.

this made me laugh so hard.

[Ovisterra]

Yeah, I don't know why I read these threads, I swear it's like watching Michele Bachmann attempting to give a rational speach.

Oh wait, that's why.. speaking of which I just thought of a great new drinking game!

An NSG drinking game would be awesome.

You select and random thread, and take a drink every time certain phrases come up, like "liberal elite", "stalinism", "source?", "Obama" etc.

[Stovokor]

Yeah, I don't know why I read these threads, I swear it's like watching Michele Bachmann attempting to give a rational speach.

Oh wait, that's why.. speaking of which I just thought of a great new drinking game!

An NSG drinking game would be awesome.

You select and random thread, and take a drink every time certain phrases come up, like "liberal elite", "stalinism", "source?", "Obama" etc.

This week, the double shot watch word is, "Gun control"

Next week we fall back on an NSG favorite, "Religion"

[The Archregimancy]

Locked for review.


Edit:
Right... I've wasted an hour of my life on this thread. I don't think it's going anywhere, so I'm going to keep it locked.

Rulings are as follows:



1) The OP is demonstrably idiotic, but doesn't itself break any site rules. The OP did return to and engage with the thread, and there are clearly people here on NSG who agree with the OP. This isn't a monopolitical website, and Max Barry has made it clear that he welcomes all political opinions here, even demonstrably idiotic political opinions, so long as they adhere to the site rules. That doesn't mean that his later behaviour in the thread is acceptable, though, as we'll address below.



2) However, that doesn't mean that we haven't had plenty of actionable behaviour:

First case:

Gays aren't all liberal degenerates.

they're following the liberals into degeneracy.

Given the presence of US liberals in this forum, constantly equating US liberals and US liberalism with 'degeneracy' is flamebaiting. *** Warned for flamebaiting ***.
I have every faith that you're able to make your points without resorting to this type of over the top actionable hyperbole. Please don't disappoint me.


Second case:

Barack Obama is an anti-semite, anti-white, black supremacist and a friend of the black hitler Louis Farrakhan.

You're so far off in your little troll world that it's unfair to the tea partiers and genuine right wingers on this site for me to group you with them in this ruling, but your outlandish baiting and trolling record across a small number of posts combined with some of your custom national fields (a national animal of 'goyim' alone breaks the rules), that I've decided that another warning is pointless here. Straight to DEAT.


Third case:

Geez, you stink of idiocy and delusional paranoid fantasywank. Take a fucking shower already!

That MeirKahanewasright was trolling and flamebaiting is undeniable, but I can't exempt you from the rules just because you were flaming a troll.

Then we move on to this exchange:

Oh s#$#% you menshevik your no better than him I am sick of hearing your stupid excuses!

Ah, CTALNH. No thread is complete without your shit-flinging posts and dictator-worship that contributes nothing and displays no actual clue what communism is, clearly.

Read The state and revolution to open your freaking eyes!

Pshyeah, right, quit wanking Stalin's corpse first.

In what way is 'quit wanking Stalin's corpse' anything other than flamebaiting in this context - and that's not the only time you used that turn of phrase.

All of which you've rounded off with...

Serves people right for being fucking stupid enough to vote for the Republicans.

In other words, all Republican voters are stupid.

I'm only going to warn you the once in this thread, but if you keep this inflammatory style going, your time on this site is going to be shorter than you'd likely want.

In the mean time, you can have a *** warning for flaming and flamebaiting ***


Fourth case:

Americunts...

No comment necessary, I assume. *** Warned for flaming ***


Fifth case:

Everyone will be permanently broke, there will be starvation, disease, anarchy, and many of you who are not prepared will die! I will be sitting in my undisclosed location and laughing at you idiots! Its coming sooner than you think! I live near a rich neighborhood and let me tell you! They are leaving IN DROVES!

I may be giving you the benefit of the doubt over whether your OP counts as trolling, but I'm certainly not going to ignore the above. *** Warned for flaming, overuse of smiley spam, and flamebaiting ***.