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What Is Obama Really?

Communist
16
3%
Anti-American
25
5%
Supporter Of Traditional America
36
7%
Best President
67
13%
Worst President
30
6%
Globalist
72
14%
Plain Old Jerk
25
5%
Demon
18
4%
Decent Politician
194
38%
IDK
27
5%
 
Total votes : 510

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Postby Zaras » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:23 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Zaras wrote:
I've tasted spinach. It's terrible.


You understand the logical conclusion to this line of argument is that you've also tasted your own shit?


Zaras is bad at making arguments and doesn't think things through. In other news, Pope still furiously remains Catholic.

Except I wasn't making an argument, I was being sarcastic about food I hate.
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Postby Three Weasels » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:25 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Laerod wrote:He's not.


No, I'm pretty sure that Obama forced Nabisco to make the new Oreo entirely out of spinach. I read it on the Internet.

Well, if it's on the internet, it must be true! :lol:
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:36 pm

Gallogach wrote:
New Dallsiph wrote:Gun control laws have actually loosened under the Obama administration despite everything said in the NRA hype.


Gun control laws expiring don't count as gun control laws loosening. That is a false pretense that somehow Obama had the audacity to actually go against his party's platform to make it easier for people to use weapons.

He signed a law legalizing guns in national parks. So, yeah…
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:39 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Gallogach wrote:
Gun control laws expiring don't count as gun control laws loosening. That is a false pretense that somehow Obama had the audacity to actually go against his party's platform to make it easier for people to use weapons.

He signed a law legalizing guns in national parks. So, yeah…

That's just a front. He's pushing the ban of all guns under the radar. It's true cause the NRA says so.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:43 pm

Evraim wrote:Are you familiar with the Fascists' arguments against the LGBT community? I disagree with them obviously, but thought them less absurd than the traditional right-wing arguments.

There's Dadaist art less absurd than the traditional right-wing arguments.

Edit: typo
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Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Twentytwostan » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:47 pm

Marshonia wrote:Now a lot of people will blow this off as a load of crap, but if you open your eyes and embrace truth, you will see the light. The man is a communist, why? I don't need to look at his history of pre-politics to tell you like D'nesh Desouza did. Just look at his so called "agenda".

1. Socialized medicine on an unprecidented scale.
2. Tax the evil rich.
3. Redistribute the wealth.
4. Control Economy.
5. Regulate business within an inch of their lives.
6. Control stock market.
7. GM takeover.
8. Unions become gigantic leftist political machines.
9. Incite class hatred.
10. Bills that take down freedom of speech like SOPA.
11. Gun control.
12. Less judicial freedom.
13. Political scandels with his agenda written all over them.
14. Media takeover.
15. Demonize free enterprise.
16. Massive welfare increases.
17. Higher taxes on all disguised by taxing the rich.
18. Income taxes for middle income planned to go over 50%.
19. Income taxes for higher income people planned to go over 75%.
20. Continuing support for NAFTA.
21. Suspiscously marxist cabinet members like Annita Dunn and Van Jones.
22. Manipulation of American culture.
23. Indoctrination through change in education.
24. Massive socialist propaganda campaigns.
25. Anti-americanism apology tours?! (srsly WTF!?)
26. Bill Aires.
27. Reverand Jerimiah Wright.
28. Less importance to religion.
29. Governemnt is the answer to all your problems.
30. Political puppets all demonizing opposing party and kicking out traditional Democrats.

Need I say anymore?

The guy worships the ground Marx and Engels walked on. How you people did not see that is beyond me.

Why did I not vote for him? Now you know. To all you goldfish out there tho, here is a challenge.
PROVE ME WRONG!


Americunts...

Tubbsalot wrote:How come every right-winger on the forum knows deep in their heart that Obama is a communist nazi kenyan african foreign marxist socialist whatever?

Why don't we have any clever right-wingers who regularly post "Obama is pushing a policy I disagree with"?

This.

The "INCITE CLASS HATRED" is just lovely. So is are the first 6. Yes, regulation means communism, so every country south (and north) of Ann Coulter's land is communist. I didn't know the education in the US was so awful.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:49 pm

Gallogach wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:...Which doesn't refute his post. The NRA has been spouting, "OBAMA TAKEN UR GUNS!" for years now, when no such thing has happened.


Please show me this NRA advertisement spouting this.

It was no mere ad, it was a speech by the CEO of the NRA.

Edit: wrong rank
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:50 pm

Tubbsalot wrote:
Caninope wrote:Do I not exist anymore?

NO

Do I need to get the lash again?
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Twentytwostan » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:52 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Obama is disgustingly liberal, his support of abortion legislation and LBGTism is grotesque. Also his foreign policy is weak.


Yes, it sucks that Murka isn't invading anyone else lately

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Postby Evraim » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:55 pm

Twentytwostan wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Obama is disgustingly liberal, his support of abortion legislation and LBGTism is grotesque. Also his foreign policy is weak.


Yes, it sucks that Murka isn't invading anyone else lately

We're just preparing to commence our rightful reconquest of Canada. For freedom!

Twentytwostan wrote:Americunts...

You realize that name-calling violates forum rules, right?
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Postby Intangelon » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:57 pm

You keep using that word ("communist"). I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Postby Evraim » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:01 pm

Intangelon wrote:You keep using that word ("communist"). I don't think it means what you think it means.

It means evil incarnate.

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Tubbsalot wrote:NO

Do I need to get the lash again?

Such chemistry.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:04 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Saying that raising taxes on the rich is crazy is crazy.

Kengburg doesn't know shit about economics: in other news, bears shit in woods.


I said raising it to 40% is crazy, because that is almost half of a persons income.

That's not exactly how tax brackets work.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Meryuma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:05 pm

Actually, what you described (increased economic regulation while maintaining the same basic economic system) was seen by Marx and Engels as the final stage of capitalism and a method by the state to prevent proletarian revolution. You really shot yourself in the foot on that one.
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Postby Demirysis » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:06 pm

Now a lot of people will blow this off as a load of crap


Great way to start your argument. Adds credibility.

1. Socialized medicine on an unprecidented scale. Narp.
2. Tax the evil rich. - Everyone should be taxed. That's sort of how the government makes money to do stuff, you know? The rich have a little more money, so they are given a little more tax. Coming from a wealthy background myself, I can tell you that when taxes are lowered on the rich, my father doesn't instantly go on multiple shopping sprees.
3. Redistribute the wealth. - No?
4. Control Economy. - Wat.
5. Regulate business within an inch of their lives. - Erm, no.
6. Control stock market. - This is getting ridiculous. Source?
7. GM takeover. - So?
8. Unions become gigantic leftist political machines. - I, too, hate unions. They do not, however, have anything to do with Obama
9. Incite class hatred. - That's coming directly from you
10. Bills that take down freedom of speech like SOPA. - Only credible point.
11. Gun control. - How so?
12. Less judicial freedom. - Nah.
13. Political scandels with his agenda written all over them. - What's a political "scandel"? Sounds kinna similar to 'scandal'
14. Media takeover. - Where the fuck are you getting this horseshit?
15. Demonize free enterprise. - Again, laughably incorrect.
16. Massive welfare increases. - Replace increases with decreases
17. Higher taxes on all disguised by taxing the rich. - No.
18. Income taxes for middle income planned to go over 50%. No.
19. Income taxes for higher income people planned to go over 75%. No.
20. Continuing support for NAFTA. - That's a good thing.
21. Suspiscously marxist cabinet members like Annita Dunn and Van Jones. - Proof?
22. Manipulation of American culture. - No
23. Indoctrination through change in education. - No
24. Massive socialist propaganda campaigns. - No
25. Anti-americanism apology tours?! (srsly WTF!?) - You're fucking making this shit up
26. Bill Aires. - What?
27. Reverand Jerimiah Wright. - What?
28. Less importance to religion. - So? Separation of church and state, heard of it?
29. Governemnt is the answer to all your problems. - Apparently that's what you think, otherwise you wouldn't be complaining.
30. Political puppets all demonizing opposing party and kicking out traditional Democrats. - Bullshit

Need I say anymore?


Yes. A lot more. I.e sources

The guy worships the ground Marx and Engels walked on. How you people did not see that is beyond me.


That sounds a lot like biased speculation to me.

Why did I not vote for him?


I don't know. You should have. You certainly haven't given any reason not to.

Now you know.


Now I know to never listen to a single thing you say, ever.

To all you goldfish out there tho, here is a challenge.


Goldfish? What?

PROVE ME WRONG!


Done and done.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:08 pm

Kengburg wrote:
Laerod wrote:If you're not interested in addressing the debt problem, kindly remove yourself from the conversation.

I meant to say we do not need to raise taxes that much, for so little money, and putting the raises as a priority over cutting spending

$700 billion a year is "so little money"?
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Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Xenohumanity wrote:
Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Meryuma » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:09 pm

BTW, I selected "demon", "globalist", and "supporter of traditional America" in the poll.
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Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


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Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


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Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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Postby Potlimitomaha » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:09 pm

Just look at his so called "agenda".

1. Socialized medicine on an unprecidented scale.-Obamacare was invented by the Republican think tank.
2. Tax the evil rich.-name one time in the past 100 years the rich weren't taxed.
3. Redistribute the wealth.- Redistribution is another name for TAXES.
4. Control Economy.- find one example
5. Regulate business within an inch of their lives.- he's reduced regulation by far more then any previous president
6. Control stock market.- I wish we could have a president that would hit Wall Street with more then a feather.
7. GM takeover.-The other option would be to have another Great Depression.
8. Unions become gigantic leftist political machines.- -they used to be powerful. Now they are long dead.
9. Incite class hatred.- How exactly?
10. Bills that take down freedom of speech like SOPA.- A Republican bill.
11. Gun control.- Obama has done nothing about guns.
12. Less judicial freedom.- HOW?????
13. Political scandels with his agenda written all over them.- like what????
14. Media takeover.- Fox News is still on. You should know that.
15. Demonize free enterprise.- by reducing regulations and giving them Stimulus
16. Massive welfare increases.- You want old and sick and poor people to die instead?
17. Higher taxes on all disguised by taxing the rich.- Oh yes a 4% increase in the Riches taxes is a government conspiracy
18. Income taxes for middle income planned to go over 50%.- Because the Republicans wantn to throw old and poor people off a cliff.
19. Income taxes for higher income people planned to go over 75%.- Republicans won't accept any compromise.
20. Continuing support for NAFTA.- EVery Republican candidate for everything supports NAFTA.
21. Suspiscously marxist cabinet members like Annita Dunn and Van Jones.- WHO and Van left long ago.
22. Manipulation of American culture.- saying people should have freedom doesn't change culture.
23. Indoctrination through change in education.- No indoctrination has every been found in any public school.
24. Massive socialist propaganda campaigns.- Like VOTE FOR ME.
25. Anti-americanism apology tours?! (srsly WTF!?)-NEVER HAPPENED.
26. Bill Aires.- college era mistake.
27. Reverand Jerimiah Wright.- the only legitament critisim yet.
28. Less importance to religion.- separation of church and state.
29. Governemnt is the answer to all your problems.- when did he ever say that.
30. Political puppets all demonizing opposing party and kicking out traditional Democrats.- You mean Republicans.

Need I say anymore?

The guy worships the ground Marx and Engels walked on. How you people did not see that is beyond me.- because your absolutly wrong.

Why did I not vote for him? Now you know. To all you goldfish out there tho, here is a challenge.
PROVE ME WRONG!


Read my answers.
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Postby Evraim » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:18 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Kengburg wrote:I meant to say we do not need to raise taxes that much, for so little money, and putting the raises as a priority over cutting spending

$700 billion a year is "so little money"?

Compared to the debt, yes.

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Postby Novaya Tselinoyarsk » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 pm

Why can't someone be Marxist and American? Makes no fucking sense.
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Postby Pope Joan » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:21 pm

Why does the American Medical Association support the Affordable Health Care act so strongly? They have always been anti-socialist, after all.

Maybe because it will help them survive?
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Postby The Kal Empire » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:22 pm

Obamacare is a perfect example of how Socialist Barack Obama is.

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Postby Neo Art » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:23 pm

The Kal Empire wrote:Obamacare is a perfect example of how Socialist Barack Obama is.


amusingly enough, you're exactly right.
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Postby Tekania » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:24 pm

MeirKahanewasright wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Source?

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_31778.php


When someone asks for a source, the adjective "reputable" is to be taken as a given so as to modify the word "source".
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Khadgar » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:24 pm

The Kal Empire wrote:Obamacare is a perfect example of how Socialist Barack Obama is.


Yes, a massive hand-out to big business shows precisely how socialist Obama is. He isn't.

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