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Fascism vs Communism

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What side do you prefer to live?

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Fascism vs Communism

Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:47 pm

Ok guys, I've been thinking this for a long time, and I wanna know your say.

In a world where the half of the planet are fascist and the other half is communist, which side would you prefer to live and why?

In my opinion, I would live in a fascist state in terms of living standards, because communist countries (based on what I observed, correct me if I'm wrong) failed in terms of living standards. I don't know, that's what I observe (although I must say, Soviet Union rocks). In terms of social status, I would prefer communism, because everyone is equal (except for party members). But I can't decide for sure where to live if that scenario happens.

But for me, both of them are horrible, I prefer a republic system. So what can you say?

Note: I know some of you reject both, but if in case it happened, what side do you prefer?, please don't answer "No side because both of it sucks", just try to answer it.
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Postby Dilange » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:48 pm

Neither.

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:49 pm

The fascist half, most likely.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:50 pm

Trollgaard wrote:The fascist half, most likely.

Why?
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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:52 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:The fascist half, most likely.

Why?


More militaristic, more zazz, better speeches, and more charismatic leaders. Compare Hitler to Stalin. Hitler wins. Better uniforms, too.

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Postby The God-Realm » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:53 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Why?


More militaristic, more zazz, better speeches, and more charismatic leaders. Compare Hitler to Stalin. Hitler wins. Better uniforms, too.

Kim Il Sung.

You are beat.
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Postby Novaya Yevraziya » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:54 pm

Build a rocket and set up capitalism on Mars!

In all seriousness, fascism. At least there you just have to act patriotic and give lip service to whoever is in control.

With Communism, bad living standards, usually becomes fascist anyways, and food shortages.
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Postby Cvtopia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:54 pm

Novaya Yevraziya wrote:Build a rocket and set up capitalism on Mars!

In all seriousness, fascism. At least there you just have to act patriotic and give lip service to whoever is in control.

With Communism, bad living standards, usually becomes fascist anyways, and food shortages.

They're both disgusting ideologies, but this.

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Postby Dilange » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Probably fascism.

I would rather take the government actually trying to kill me and kills me, rather than the government not trying to kill me but kills me.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Why?


More militaristic, more zazz, better speeches, and more charismatic leaders. Compare Hitler to Stalin. Hitler wins. Better uniforms, too.

I know, from a failing Germany to a nearly superpower Germany, I must say, Hitler did a good job on that (But I'm not a Nazi, or a holocaust supporter)
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Postby The God-Realm » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:56 pm

Novaya Yevraziya wrote:Build a rocket and set up capitalism on Mars!

In all seriousness, fascism. At least there you just have to act patriotic and give lip service to whoever is in control.

With Communism, bad living standards, usually becomes fascist anyways, and food shortages.

Paris Commune and Marxist Chile.

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Postby Trollgaard » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:56 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
More militaristic, more zazz, better speeches, and more charismatic leaders. Compare Hitler to Stalin. Hitler wins. Better uniforms, too.

Kim Il Sung.

You are beat.


Lol, no.

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Postby Cvtopia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:57 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Novaya Yevraziya wrote:Build a rocket and set up capitalism on Mars!

In all seriousness, fascism. At least there you just have to act patriotic and give lip service to whoever is in control.

With Communism, bad living standards, usually becomes fascist anyways, and food shortages.

Paris Commune and Marxist Chile.

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Anything marxist is fundamentally totalitarian.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:57 pm

Novaya Yevraziya wrote:Build a rocket and set up capitalism on Mars!

In all seriousness, fascism. At least there you just have to act patriotic and give lip service to whoever is in control.

With Communism, bad living standards, usually becomes fascist anyways, and food shortages.

I know that's what I'm thinking to, I mean Nazi Germany have better living standard than Soviet Union, aside from that, they rose from an inflation and became a superpower at that time.
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Postby North Misesia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:58 pm

Dilange wrote:Probably fascism.

I would rather take the government actually trying to kill me and kills me, rather than the government not trying to kill me but kills me.


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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:58 pm

Communist.

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Postby The God-Realm » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:58 pm

Cvtopia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Paris Commune and Marxist Chile.

Wroooong

Anything marxist is fundamentally totalitarian.

Nope.

Marxist Chile had a better standard of living than Military Rule Chile.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:59 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:Communist.

What's the reason?
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Postby Cvtopia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:59 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Cvtopia wrote:Anything marxist is fundamentally totalitarian.

Nope.

Marxist Chile had a better standard of living than Military Rule Chile.

I'd rather be free and poor than rich and oppressed.

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Postby Grand Soviet Union » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:00 pm

considering my heritage and fascism don't really mix well I'd choose the Communist side. I would actually live longer than five seconds.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:Communist.

What's the reason?

Actually, fuck it. Now when I think about it, I would prefer fascism to communism.

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Postby Zyx » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Communism, as in the pure end result were no state exists and everyone has equality and freedom, vs Fascism, where the state completely dictates restricts freedoms , while having a huge level of economic inequality because of the corporate state system which favors the big corporations? I think this decision is easy...
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Postby The God-Realm » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:01 pm

Cvtopia wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Nope.

Marxist Chile had a better standard of living than Military Rule Chile.

I'd rather be free and poor than rich and oppressed.

Good standard of living=/=Rich.

And if that is true you are a communist like me! *throws confetti*
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Postby Cvtopia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:02 pm

Zyx wrote:Communism, as in the pure end result were no state exists and everyone has equality and freedom, vs Fascism, where the state completely dictates restricts freedoms , while having a huge level of economic inequality because of the corporate state system which favors the big corporations? I think this decision is easy...

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Postby Darvincia » Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:02 pm

Wow, this already devolved into a thread of "these aren't REAL communism!" "yes they are!". Good job NSG.
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