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What is the Democratic Party's Worst Sin?

Nuclear Weapons.
6
2%
Jim Crow Laws.
73
26%
The Failure of the 'War On Poverty'.
12
4%
The Korean and Viet Nam Wars (H.S.T. + J.F.K.)
16
6%
The Fall of Viet Nam AFTER the Peace Treaty.
7
2%
Decline in National Educational Scores.
8
3%
Over-Spending/Bankrupting States and The Country.
57
20%
The Fall of the Shah and the Possible Rise of the Ayatollahs + Nuclear Iran.
15
5%
Some Other Sin.
87
31%
 
Total votes : 281

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Postby Mandicoria » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:14 pm

Mainly the Jim Crow Laws, kinda makes me think on how the fuck did the stereotype for the Republicans and Conservatives didn't go to the Democrats instead?
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Postby Serrland » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:15 pm

A lot of these listed are the failures of a Democrat, not the Democrats.

I would say their biggest sin was the party's horrendous failure to avoid the cluster-fuck in Chicago at the '68 DNC. Ended up screwing both parties.
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:15 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Also, South Vietnam fell after a peace treaty that was made by the Republicans, and during a republican administration

Ford couldn't get the Democratic congress to authorize military action.

On another note. I see votes for the Jim Crow laws, so how come no one's talking about them?


Did the Democrats also control the South Vietnamese government?

As otherwise how is it their fault that another sovereign country could not protect itself?
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:15 pm

Divair wrote:Not having the balls to be an actual leftist party.

it's not that they don't have the balls

it's that they don't actually want to
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Postby Constaniana » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:15 pm

All of them. We all know that the gay atheist Muslim commie fascist Democrats are the source of all evil in the universe.
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Postby Nua Corda » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:16 pm

Divair wrote:Not having the balls to be an actual leftist party.


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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:16 pm

Mandicoria wrote:Mainly the Jim Crow Laws, kinda makes me think on how the fuck did the stereotype for the Republicans and Conservatives didn't go to the Democrats insted.

Nixon gathered all the pissed off racists and integrated them into the Republican party. Called the Southern Strategy.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:16 pm

Support for prenaticide.
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Postby Saruhan » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:18 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:Support for prenaticide.

Not a word
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:18 pm

Divair wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
Wasn't the Arab Springs the exact thing that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney were hoping would result out of the Iraq War?

Yea, but their plan involved Americans occupying all of the countries ;)


Ah, so for the Republicans regime change where people overthrow their corrupt governments is only good when American soldiers are dying to forcibly achieve it for those people. Instead, of them doing it for themselves without any cost of American lifes.
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Postby Divair » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:18 pm

Revolutopia wrote:
Divair wrote:Yea, but their plan involved Americans occupying all of the countries ;)


Ah, so for the Republicans regime change where people overthrow their corrupt governments is only good when American soldiers are dying to forcibly achieve it for those people. Instead, of them doing it for themselves without any cost of American lifes.

Welcome to GOP foreign policy 101.

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Postby Saruhan » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:19 pm

I'm also confused about how you seem to think it was bad to go into Korea, but bad to pull out of Vietnam?
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Postby Dilange » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:20 pm

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Abortion has always been legal.

No, it wasn't. That's why Roe v. Wade is such an issue.


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First, deal with it like a true person.

Second, leave the United States.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Probably support for slavery during the 19th. Century.

But most of these criticisms are decades old, not something being done by the current Democratic Party. And I'd like to know why the Democrats get blamed for number 3, number 6, and number 7. The Republicans oppose a lot of funding for helping the poor, I doubt the Republicans are very fond of spending money on education, and President Regan and both President Bushes contributed greatly to our debt.

And anyone who thinks the Republicans don't do enough for Israel is probably not someone who should be taken seriously.
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Postby Revolutopia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Divair wrote:
Revolutopia wrote:
Ah, so for the Republicans regime change where people overthrow their corrupt governments is only good when American soldiers are dying to forcibly achieve it for those people. Instead, of them doing it for themselves without any cost of American lifes.

Welcome to GOP foreign policy 101.


Only had to smash a brick into my skull twice before it started making sense.
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Postby Pavlostani » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:20 pm

Constaniana wrote:All of them. We all know that the gay atheist Muslim commie fascist Democrats are the source of all evil in the universe.

Oh yes,the atheist muslims! They anger me almost as much as the pacifistic warmongers. Not quite as bad as the capitalist communists though.
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Postby Chinamerica » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:21 pm

Neo Art wrote:Throwing LGBT americans under the bus.

That's actually really sad. The LGBT community were so excited to see that they'd finally got support from a President...only for Obama to say a few days after election that he wouldn't be pushing for gay marriage in a second term.
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Postby Vanzef » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:21 pm

Divair wrote:Not having the balls to be an actual leftist party.

Gah, beat me to it.
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Postby Khadgar » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:22 pm

Their biggest failure, an utter addiction to compromise even when it destroys what they're after.

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:22 pm

Being center/center right.
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lol

Postby Vashtanaraada » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:22 pm

Maintaining the stupid alliance with human-rights-violating Israel, just for oil. muslims/palestinians dead. millions displaced. All funded by the USA's foreign policy and arms selling to Israel.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:23 pm

You-Gi-Owe wrote:
Laerod wrote:Don't lie.

Prove that I'm lying. IMO, President Carter, at the time of the Shah's fall, through inaction, started a chain of dominoes that continues today through to the "Arab Spring"


God, what a fucking stupid post. You might as well blame the dinosaurs for all deciding to die in the Middle East 100 million years ago.
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Postby Divair » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:23 pm

Vashtanaraada wrote:Maintaining the stupid alliance with human-rights-violating Israel, just for oil. muslims/palestinians dead. millions displaced. All funded by the USA's foreign policy and arms selling to Israel.

Every day I walk by oil refineries on my way to work.


Oh. No. Wait. We don't have oil. Darn.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:23 pm

Chinamerica wrote:
Neo Art wrote:Throwing LGBT americans under the bus.

That's actually really sad. The LGBT community were so excited to see that they'd finally got support from a President...only for Obama to say a few days after election that he wouldn't be pushing for gay marriage in a second term.

Before, not after.

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Postby Saruhan » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:24 pm

Vashtanaraada wrote:Maintaining the stupid alliance with human-rights-violating Israel, just for oil. muslims/palestinians dead. millions displaced. All funded by the USA's foreign policy and arms selling to Israel.

Oil? Do some people really still think that the whole middle east is one big oil soaked desert?
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