LGBT Christians, yeah we exist.

[Scholencia]

Well, i actually dont know english very well.

I meant, how are you?

Fine.... but that's for another place and another time.

Yes, you are right. So, what is your opinion of the whole subject?

[Uiiop]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch ... and_Europe the Church of Sweden wonders where did you get that idea?

They are all the same to me because they believe in one God, Jesus is the son of God and part of the Trinity, died on the cross etc.

But, if they are practising mass during sundays or not, or what do they think about abortion is not so important since they all believe in this one important "truth". Get it?

Yeah but it's not about the "truth". It's you implying that all churches have the same policy on gay marriage and that they copy the catholic church. There is older forms of Christianity in the world like the Gnostics.

[Menassa]

Fine.... but that's for another place and another time.

Yes, you are right. So, what is your opinion of the whole subject?

I have given that already... for Christians it is okay.

[Scholencia]

They are all the same to me because they believe in one God, Jesus is the son of God and part of the Trinity, died on the cross etc.

But, if they are practising mass during sundays or not, or what do they think about abortion is not so important since they all believe in this one important "truth". Get it?

Yeah but it's not about the "truth". It's you implying that all churches have the same policy on gay marriage and that they copy the catholic church. There is older forms of Christianity in the world like the Gnostics.

"By copy the Catholic Church" I mean they copy the main believes like Jesus is the God of son, part of trinity, using the same Bible like the Catholic Church first started to use. Policy like abortion, gay marriages etc. is the internal stuff of every church and they can agree with it each other or not, this issues are not something that the Churches are based. I personally would like that all should accept the pope as a head of their churches since he has a legal right according to the bible, and that all churches have their different policies about some issues. that is possible since the catholic church has 23 autonmous subdivisions in itself.The Romancatholic church which is the most biggest is just one of thema and in some of them priest can marry like in the Greekcatholic church.

Gnostics is not;as I said already because if we use it as a form of Christianity that would also mean that we would also islam some form of Christianity since Jesus is one of main characters of islam and because Muhhamad started as a followers of his teachings.

EDIT. and yes, the atheist thread was ya know..

[Scholencia]

Yes, you are right. So, what is your opinion of the whole subject?

I have given that already... for Christians it is okay.

Arent you a Jew? I your scription it is said that.

[Menassa]

I have given that already... for Christians it is okay.

Arent you a Jew? I your scription it is said that.

I am a Jew yes.

[Scholencia]

I am a Jew yes.

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

[Menassa]

I am a Jew yes.

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

Ok. No he's not. And that's not for this thread.

[Scholencia]

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

Ok. No he's not. And that's not for this thread.

He was a Jewish patriot.

[Menassa]

Ok. No he's not. And that's not for this thread.

He was a Jewish patriot.

He was a Jewish person..... but again... not for this thread, because it doesn't relate in anyway to Homosexuality and Christianity.

[Tmutarakhan]

I am a Jew yes.

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

Sigh... according to the prophecies, when the Messiah comes, the Temple will be restored, and all the Jews who are scattered throughout the world will come back to the homeland, to become the most honored nation in the world, which will lead all of humanity into an era of universal peace.
After Jesus came, the Temple was totally destroyed, and all the Jews who were in the homeland were scattered throughout the world, to become the most persecuted nation in the world, while all of humanity entered an era of escalating brutality and violence. Nice going, "Messiah".

[Scholencia]

He was a Jewish patriot.

He was a Jewish person..... but again... not for this thread, because it doesn't relate in anyway to Homosexuality and Christianity.

Cool, so why did you response to me acting as a gay christian?

[Menassa]

He was a Jewish person..... but again... not for this thread, because it doesn't relate in anyway to Homosexuality and Christianity.

Cool, so why did you response to me acting as a gay christian?

I'd say you may or may not be okay.... perhaps more leaning to the may not be.

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

Sigh... according to the prophecies, when the Messiah comes, the Temple will be restored, and all the Jews who are scattered throughout the world will come back to the homeland, to become the most honored nation in the world, which will lead all of humanity into an era of universal peace.
After Jesus came, the Temple was totally destroyed, and all the Jews who were in the homeland were scattered throughout the world, to become the most persecuted nation in the world, while all of humanity entered an era of escalating brutality and violence. Nice going, "Messiah".

Also it says nowhere that the Messiah is supposed to forgive sin and that he woul-.... wait a minute that's not for this thread.

[Scholencia]

Ok, Jesus is the Messiah.

Sigh... according to the prophecies, when the Messiah comes, the Temple will be restored, and all the Jews who are scattered throughout the world will come back to the homeland, to become the most honored nation in the world, which will lead all of humanity into an era of universal peace.
After Jesus came, the Temple was totally destroyed, and all the Jews who were in the homeland were scattered throughout the world, to become the most persecuted nation in the world, while all of humanity entered an era of escalating brutality and violence. Nice going, "Messiah".

Ok, but that was all after Jesus died. When jesus was born, Herodotus build already a new Temple and the Jews were mostly in Israel. So, yes he is the Messiah.

[Menassa]

Sigh... according to the prophecies, when the Messiah comes, the Temple will be restored, and all the Jews who are scattered throughout the world will come back to the homeland, to become the most honored nation in the world, which will lead all of humanity into an era of universal peace.
After Jesus came, the Temple was totally destroyed, and all the Jews who were in the homeland were scattered throughout the world, to become the most persecuted nation in the world, while all of humanity entered an era of escalating brutality and violence. Nice going, "Messiah".

Ok, but that was after Jesus. When jesus was born, Herodotus build already a new Temple and the Jews were mostly homes. So, yes he is the Messiah.

Before I attempt to decode that and tell you how wrong you are..... I'm just going to tell you we already have a Christian Discussion Thread.

[Renegade Babylonian Kings]

Sigh... according to the prophecies, when the Messiah comes, the Temple will be restored, and all the Jews who are scattered throughout the world will come back to the homeland, to become the most honored nation in the world, which will lead all of humanity into an era of universal peace.
After Jesus came, the Temple was totally destroyed, and all the Jews who were in the homeland were scattered throughout the world, to become the most persecuted nation in the world, while all of humanity entered an era of escalating brutality and violence. Nice going, "Messiah".

Wow. Jesus of Nazareth was just effectively bullied as if he had lost the big football game at the 23 minute mark of a shitty 80's teen movie.

[Grenartia]

So, what is the Church says homosexuality is wrong, do you agree with it or not?

Which church? And no.

>implying all christians follow one church Also which church are you talking about?

Well, to me all Churches are almost the same, since they believe in the same God and figure.

I was refering to the Catholic Church since it is the legitimate one and from which the others copy their religious believes.

I'm not a member of the Catholic Church. Only those who are Catholics are bound by what the Vatican decides.

[Kuhlfros]

So, what is the Church says homosexuality is wrong, do you agree with it or not?

Which church? And no.

Well, to me all Churches are almost the same, since they believe in the same God and figure.

I was refering to the Catholic Church since it is the legitimate one and from which the others copy their religious believes.

I'm not a member of the Catholic Church. Only those who are Catholics are bound by what the Vatican decides.

Well... like Scholencia said earlier The Pope is supposed to be diplomat for all christianity and that is written in King John version bible... The best one ever!

[Menassa]

So, what is the Church says homosexuality is wrong, do you agree with it or not?

Which church? And no.

Well, to me all Churches are almost the same, since they believe in the same God and figure.

I was refering to the Catholic Church since it is the legitimate one and from which the others copy their religious believes.

I'm not a member of the Catholic Church. Only those who are Catholics are bound by what the Vatican decides.

But as a Christian... are you bound by the Old Testament?

[Kuhlfros]

But as a Christian... are you bound by the Old Testament?

Well I sure think that all christian religions should be bound by that as much as they are too the new testament (P.S I am Roman Catholic) wait just realized that question was not for me Sorry but that was what I think and can we get back on subject please?

[Menassa]

But as a Christian... are you bound by the Old Testament?

Well I sure think that all christian religions should be bound by that as much as they are too the new testament (P.S I am Roman Catholic) wait just realized that question was not for me Sorry but that was what I think and can we get back on subject please?

So then you don't recognize LGB Christians if you're bound by the old Testament

(I didn't include T on purpose)

[Grenartia]

Which church? And no.



I'm not a member of the Catholic Church. Only those who are Catholics are bound by what the Vatican decides.

Well... like Scholencia said earlier The Pope is supposed to be diplomat for all christianity and that is written in King John version bible... The best one ever!

I don't recognize the Pope's authority. And I've never even heard of the King John version.

Which church? And no.



I'm not a member of the Catholic Church. Only those who are Catholics are bound by what the Vatican decides.

But as a Christian... are you bound by the Old Testament?

I only really consider myself to be bound by the red text in the Gospels of the New Testament. It seems to me that they've been edited the least.

[Menassa]

Well... like Scholencia said earlier The Pope is supposed to be diplomat for all christianity and that is written in King John version bible... The best one ever!

I don't recognize the Pope's authority. And I've never even heard of the King John version.

But as a Christian... are you bound by the Old Testament?

I only really consider myself to be bound by the red text in the Gospels of the New Testament. It seems to me that they've been edited the least.

That was sort of the answer I was looking for but you think the Masoretic Text has been edited?

[Kuhlfros]

I don't recognize the Pope's authority. And I've never even heard of the King John version.

WELL LOOK IT UP!! It is even classified at a fifth grade reading level and Menessa I see what you did there because Transgender is a new thing but I think Pope Benedict at least tried to stop it... Doing that is kind of dumb for a christian to do anyways

[Grenartia]

I don't recognize the Pope's authority. And I've never even heard of the King John version.



I only really consider myself to be bound by the red text in the Gospels of the New Testament. It seems to me that they've been edited the least.

That was sort of the answer I was looking for but you think the Masoretic Text has been edited?

That's the Old Testament, right? Then yes. Probably moreso than any of the New Testament, by virtue of the fact that its older. There's a few scattered bits in there that are probably true (more or less historical facts, mainly), but I personally wouldn't totally trust it for theology.