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by Multiflow » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:42 pm

by Sociobiology » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:43 pm
The USOT wrote:Lindenholt wrote:
Water can be produced from the Hydrogen and the Oxygen out there actually it has everything to let us live there. We can terraform it VERY easily in 50 to 100 years.
Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it take a vast amount of energy to synthesise a breathable atmosphere?

by Esternial » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:54 pm

by Cameroi » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:00 pm

by YellowApple » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:41 pm

by Esternial » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:52 pm
YellowApple wrote:I'm totally down for heading out to Mars. The downside would be missing my family, but I have a feeling being in space would be worth it. That's kind of been, like, my life dream.

by Delator » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:03 pm


by THE UNITED FEDERATION OF ALGORENIA » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:18 pm

by The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:23 pm
THE UNITED FEDERATION OF ALGORENIA wrote:So have they discussed any interest in establishing a "go back to Earth" option later in the future? i mean, it wouldn't make sense jsut to shoot some people to Mars and just forget them for all eternity. IF they work out a way to go back to earth, then i'll make the endeavour.

by YellowApple » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:26 pm
THE UNITED FEDERATION OF ALGORENIA wrote:So have they discussed any interest in establishing a "go back to Earth" option later in the future? i mean, it wouldn't make sense jsut to shoot some people to Mars and just forget them for all eternity. IF they work out a way to go back to earth, then i'll make the endeavour.

by The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:28 pm
Sociobiology wrote:The USOT wrote:Correct me if im wrong but doesnt it take a vast amount of energy to synthesise a breathable atmosphere?
on Mars, no, on the moon, yes.
although on a planetary level everything takes lots of energy. if your goal is large scale terra forming dropping a few comets on mars would do a lot of the work for you.

by The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:02 pm

by Great Yorkshire » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:07 pm

by The God-Realm » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:08 pm

by Vestr-Norig » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:08 pm


by Esternial » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:09 pm
Great Yorkshire wrote:No thanks.
Theres fuck all to do there at the best of times and the place pretty much shuts down on a Sunday.

by The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:18 pm
Vestr-Norig wrote:Wasting billions of money that could better be used to the better for the poor and needy. Well, let the Yankees keep on with their waste, other people across the globe wil have to continue their struggle to survive. What do they want on Mars anyway? There is basically nothing of worth, unless you look at stone and sand as worthy to colonize a planet for.

by YellowApple » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:23 pm
Vestr-Norig wrote:Wasting billions of money that could better be used to the better for the poor and needy. Well, let the Yankees keep on with their waste, other people across the globe wil have to continue their struggle to survive. What do they want on Mars anyway? There is basically nothing of worth, unless you look at stone and sand as worthy to colonize a planet for.

by Vestr-Norig » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:25 pm
The USOT wrote:Vestr-Norig wrote:Wasting billions of money that could better be used to the better for the poor and needy. Well, let the Yankees keep on with their waste, other people across the globe wil have to continue their struggle to survive. What do they want on Mars anyway? There is basically nothing of worth, unless you look at stone and sand as worthy to colonize a planet for.
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Because of course we make no scientific advancements that assist the human race from space travel at all...
Lets just ignore how a breif venture barely outside the earth expanded the earths economies, brought mass broadcasting and infrastructure which helps millions of lives.
Lets ignore the advances in weatherforecasting which has allowed people all over the world greater preperation against a hostile planet.
Lets ignore the advantages of agriculture in which we can now plot the path of agricultural pests and hazards which enhance the foodstocks in every single nation on earth.
Lets ignore the vital materials made for the space race which are used in medicine today and have kept people like myself actually living and breathing.
All that. All of it came from a merely small venture out of our atmosphere and to our moon. The amount of research that can go ahead from preparing humans to live in biodomes on mars would have hte potential to dwarf that en mass.

by Vestr-Norig » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:27 pm
YellowApple wrote:Vestr-Norig wrote:Wasting billions of money that could better be used to the better for the poor and needy. Well, let the Yankees keep on with their waste, other people across the globe wil have to continue their struggle to survive. What do they want on Mars anyway? There is basically nothing of worth, unless you look at stone and sand as worthy to colonize a planet for.
Because at the rate we're going with global warming we might as well have a backup plan in case we've completely fucked everything up.

by The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:30 pm
Vestr-Norig wrote:The USOT wrote:![]()
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Because of course we make no scientific advancements that assist the human race from space travel at all...
Lets just ignore how a breif venture barely outside the earth expanded the earths economies, brought mass broadcasting and infrastructure which helps millions of lives.
Lets ignore the advances in weatherforecasting which has allowed people all over the world greater preperation against a hostile planet.
Lets ignore the advantages of agriculture in which we can now plot the path of agricultural pests and hazards which enhance the foodstocks in every single nation on earth.
Lets ignore the vital materials made for the space race which are used in medicine today and have kept people like myself actually living and breathing.
All that. All of it came from a merely small venture out of our atmosphere and to our moon. The amount of research that can go ahead from preparing humans to live in biodomes on mars would have hte potential to dwarf that en mass.
Satelites has indeed been a great thing for humanity, though, this is basically just outside of our planet, and does not cost even near what such expeditions to foreign planets does. We did gain nothing good from our visit to the moon, nor will we gain anything of worth from a human visit to Mars. We should, instead of wasting billions of dollars on space programs that most likely is going to cost more than what we will gain from it, try to make it better for people here on earth, and look at what the Earth can provide, and how we can use these resources the best way. Expeditions further ourside will not have the same benefits as "local" programs just outside of ground level has. There is no reason to take it a step further.
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