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by Oppressorion » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:03 am

by Tothemax6 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:25 am

by The Steel Magnolia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:38 pm
Camelza wrote:Forever a feminist.
Because women are entitled to equality and individual independence in a free society like all human beings.

by Phocidaea » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:55 pm

by Esternial » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:08 pm
Phocidaea wrote:I am a male, so according to many feminists I cannot be one by definition.
I agree with many feminist goals, but don't like the term because it's been hijacked by the extremist misandrist types. I'm sure you've heard that one before... but honestly it's why feminists aren't taken seriously anymore.

by Betalia » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:33 pm

by Blouman Empire » Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:37 pm

by Stychia » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:52 am
The Steel Magnolia wrote:Thank you, this.
I laugh at the inane notion that misogyny and sexism is somehow "over."

by Czechanada » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:07 pm

by Threlizdun » Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:29 pm
Phocidaea wrote:I am a male, so according to many feminists I cannot be one by definition.
I agree with many feminist goals, but don't like the term because it's been hijacked by the extremist misandrist types. I'm sure you've heard that one before... but honestly it's why feminists aren't taken seriously anymore.
Of course, the fact that women are still paid less, objectified, and assigned roles proves that our society is in no way still patriarchal.Betalia wrote:Modern Feminism is abhorrent, it preaches nothing but hatred and mistrust of men and wants to impose more government regulation to prop up their phony notion that there is a "patriarchy" out to get women. So no, I am not a feminist.
Then be an egalitarian feminist.Blouman Empire wrote:I consider myself to be an egalitarian, some may say then you are a feminist too but I don't find all feminists to be egalitarian

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by Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:39 pm
Veceria wrote:I'm an equalist.

by Gravlen » Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:59 pm
Tothemax6 wrote:I consider myself to be an 'anti-feminist'.
Perhaps I would have been a feminist as the term was understood 50+ years ago in the West, and perhaps I still am a feminist by that understanding vis-a-vis many countries in Africa, the middle east, central Asia etc.
It is one thing to advocate rights such as equal freedom, equal suffrage etc.
It is another thing to advocate rights such as 'equal opportunity' positively enforced (quotas), 'equality' (men and women being the same thing but with different gonads), and 'equal roles' (that the naturally occurring difference in life preferences and roles between men and women is wrong).
That is an entirely different breed of feminism, and it is wrong.

by Mizrah » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:06 pm
Gravlen wrote:Tothemax6 wrote:I consider myself to be an 'anti-feminist'.
Perhaps I would have been a feminist as the term was understood 50+ years ago in the West, and perhaps I still am a feminist by that understanding vis-a-vis many countries in Africa, the middle east, central Asia etc.
It is one thing to advocate rights such as equal freedom, equal suffrage etc.
It is another thing to advocate rights such as 'equal opportunity' positively enforced (quotas), 'equality' (men and women being the same thing but with different gonads), and 'equal roles' (that the naturally occurring difference in life preferences and roles between men and women is wrong).
That is an entirely different breed of feminism, and it is wrong.
So as an anti-feminist, I take it that you're hostile to sexual equality or to the advocacy of women's rights and want to remove the right women have acquired during the last 50+ years. So why exactly are you opposed to female equality? Do you care to explain why women should not be allowed into the public sphere, shouldn't be allowed to vote, and why they shouldn't have control of their bodies?
I'm really curious.

by Gravlen » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:14 pm
Mizrah wrote:Gravlen wrote:So as an anti-feminist, I take it that you're hostile to sexual equality or to the advocacy of women's rights and want to remove the right women have acquired during the last 50+ years. So why exactly are you opposed to female equality? Do you care to explain why women should not be allowed into the public sphere, shouldn't be allowed to vote, and why they shouldn't have control of their bodies?
I'm really curious.
You seem to have jumped to many conclusions.
Mizrah wrote: I believe Tothemax would support women in public, women voting, and women controlling their own bodies.

by Mizrah » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:30 pm
Gravlen wrote:Mizrah wrote:
You seem to have jumped to many conclusions.
Nope.Mizrah wrote: I believe Tothemax would support women in public, women voting, and women controlling their own bodies.
So you're calling venerable Tothemax6 a liar? After all, he calls himself an anti-feminist, and that's anti-feminist viewpoints.

by Gravlen » Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:35 pm
Mizrah wrote:Gravlen wrote:Nope.
So you're calling venerable Tothemax6 a liar? After all, he calls himself an anti-feminist, and that's anti-feminist viewpoints.
"Perhaps I would have been a feminist as the term was understood 50+ years ago in the West, and perhaps I still am a feminist by that understanding vis-a-vis many countries in Africa, the middle east, central Asia etc.
It is one thing to advocate rights such as equal freedom, equal suffrage etc."
Seems like we don't know how to read.
Tothemax6 wrote:I consider myself to be an 'anti-feminist'.
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