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There are good reasons and bad reasons not to be a feminist, I want to know who here considers themselves a feminist and who considers themselves not a feminist and why.

I'm not a feminist for the same reason I am not a black supremacist.

Of course I am a feminist.

I'd like to think I lean toward that end of the spectrum. I'm comfortable with the fact that my wife makes more than I do many years. I do many of the house chores by habit. I stay home and take care of the kids. I bake her pie and make her sandwiches. I invite her to jump into the mud with me(on rare occasion, she actually does). not bad, huh? But there are some tasks in which I still have an expectation for them to be the man's role in a relationship. Writing names in the snow, for instance. I'm just better at it.

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'd like to think I lean toward that end of the spectrum. I'm comfortable with the fact that my wife makes more than I do many years. I do many of the house chores by habit. I stay home and take care of the kids. I bake her pie and make her sandwiches. I invite her to jump into the mud with me(on rare occasion, she actually does). not bad, huh? But there are some tasks in which I still have an expectation for them to be the man's role in a relationship. Writing names in the snow, for instance. I'm just better at it.

You sir are a bad ass.

I think that women are, and should be treated as, equals to men. If you mean something else by feminist, I couldn't say.

What do you think OP?

If you're referring to the latter definition, then no.


I do support equal rights for people all genders, however.

Professionally I make as much as my male co-workers, work in a female dominated profession, have never been treated differently within the workplace and have ample opportunity for promotion. Taking into account that politically I can vote, drive, wear what I want and act how I want and in my personal life I will often even get preferential treatment for being a woman, why would I possibly feel the need to be a feminist?

I support equal rights for all people.

Nope. I believe people of all/no/many genders to have equal rights. What is it with this male/female thing, anyway?

I am an individualist feminist, at least in my own reckoning. I want women to have full human rights, the rights of individuals, just like men should. They should stand on roughly equal ground culturally as men.

It's possible that I stray on some issues. Even individualist feminists complain about women used in a sexy (or "objectifying") way in advertising, believing that to cause mistreatment of women. Personally, I don't agree with that conclusion, and I disagree with their position, and I have no problem with men being used in that way either.

If wanting equal rights for all genders (there's more than 2) makes me a feminist, then yes. If it doesn't, then not.

NationState wrote:Nope. I believe people of all/no/many genders to have equal rights. What is it with this male/female thing, anyway?

Because some people think those are the only options.

I wouldn't describe myself as one, because the "-ist" part would give the impression that I'd stopped thinking for myself and the "Femin-" bit would give the impression that I didn't know how oppressive male gender roles are.

Yes, because I believe in the universal empowerment of and giving of equal rights to women everywhere (and I'm a dude).

Do I throw a shit-fit over how scantily clad Bayonetta is or how Peach always needs to be rescued by Mario? No.

I feel initiatives like that of 'Tropes Vs. Women In Video Games' are actually not about the empowerment of women at all and are more about complaining any time any woman is portrayed in a vulnerable or sexualised (and therefore negative apparently) light and claiming that such case-by-case portrayals are some kind of chauvinist attack against half the species.

Modern feminism should be about preventing female genital mutilation in Northern Africa or the shooting of little girls in the head in Pakistan because they wanted to learn, not whether or not Samus is wearing fucking stilettos!!

I am not a feminist, and I will never be.

That is because the feminists in my country, although they claim to want equality, blackmailed the politicians in my country to pass some very unfair laws against men.

Such as, if a woman can file a case against a man for "looking at her with bad intentions", and the man might get jailed for maximum of 10 years.
A woman can file a case against a man for "touching her clothes" and he will go to jail for a long time.

In Malaysia feminists blackmailed the politicians to pass a law, "If a man calls his wife ugly then he can go to jail".

Naturally, for all of these above laws, only women can file cases against men, men cannot file cases against women under the above laws.

So I finally understood the secret: Feminists actually don't want equality at all. They just use the slogan of equality, so that they can blackmail their opponents (What? You oppose us? That means you don't want equality between men and women! Pig! etc.), and using blackmail, they pass heavily unfair laws against men, for which a lot of men suffer. Because in reality they hate men like a religious hate.

Yes.
Though the dirt that has been thrown on the term by feminazis is quite annoying. I do not believe women are better than men, and I will argue just as much for men's rights as women's, will fight against unfair treatment for both sexes, and will out-right tell misandrists that they are in fact against what their founders believed (I think the Power Puff Girls summed it up nicely.). It may seem kind of stubborn, but I don't want to abandon the term and its original meaning just because of the morons, as every belief has its extremists.

I generally get treated better, because I am a woman. Gentlemen hold the door for me, when I drop something they pick it up for me, guys buy drinks for me and so on and on. But then this happens, when I am amongst civilized and educated people. Otherwise men don't really care, they have bad manners (they don't know, what etiquette is).

I can vote, drive car, do pretty much any job, if I have the right abilities to do it and so on. Oh, and insurance of my automobile is cheaper for me, because women are less likely to crash. Well then, why would I be a feminist?

I want to be treated better, I am not equal to men.

Araraukar wrote:If wanting equal rights for all genders (there's more than 2) makes me a feminist, then yes. If it doesn't, then not.

This.

I'm not a feminist. Nor am I a masculinist.

I'm a neutralist. Or something like that.

Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not a feminist. Nor am I a masculinist.

I'm a neutralist. Or something like that.

"Equalist"?

I'm not a feminist. The reason being I don't think everybody is equal or should be treated as equals. I believe in a sort of meritocracy/technocracy.

Giovenith wrote:

Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not a feminist. Nor am I a masculinist.

I'm a neutralist. Or something like that.

"Equalist"?

I suppose.

Though, I'm largely apathetic, really.

Giovenith wrote:

Herrebrugh wrote:I'm not a feminist. Nor am I a masculinist.

I'm a neutralist. Or something like that.

"Equalist"?

Humanist sounds better. Or individualist. Equalitarian could work.

Oh dog, another "feminism" thread?

Yes I consider myself a feminist. Maybe not a very "strong" one, but if you ask me to pick sides between feminism and all-the-alternatives-put-together, damn right I'm a feminist. The alternative ideologies include some horrible ones, and only a small proportion of ideologies which are more inclusive and egalitarian than feminism.

I am quite interested in the Queer perspective. It might have the potential to be a "fourth wave" of Feminism (under a different name of course) and work around some of the entrenched positions on both sides.

And after all I'm a globalist. There is a vast disparity of power between people based on where they were born and if you look outside the developed countries you see women still very oppressed. Globally, even the first wave of feminism has not yet achieved its goals.

I am for women's rights and I hate gender stereotypes, although I do not know if I should consider myself a femenist.

And no, I am not a female.