Should the United States intervene in Syria

[Kulaloe]

No. The situation is not as simple as some would believe, and the presence of the United States would not improve it.

I agree. It's a little like Egypt though - not quite but similar. That's why I say some intervention from multiple countries, but not the US.

[Nua Corda]

We are in a period of time of warfare, where it matters on the hyperstate to decided. The United States is the most powerful country in the world, and will need to exert more control over the Middle East to have it remain peaceful, because no one is as powerful as the United States. It will sooner or later intervene, much to my distaste.

Exerting more control over the middle east, given recent history, seems either impossible or like it would just make the problem worse. The "war on terror" will be won with schoolbooks and chalkboards, not M4s.

[The Blaatschapen]

You are not American, and last time i checked Finland was not part of Nato nor had any interest in going there.

Finland is a part of the West, and the West must act as one.

Then start by becoming NATO.

[Rio Cana]

No. If you think about it, it is strange this sudden US preocuppation with Syria. I think it has more to do with tossing Russia out of Syria then anything else. With the Russians out of Syria the Medittereanean sea would become a US/NATO lake. The Russian and Chinese could see this has a threat to there security.

Some say its about oil, Arabia supposedly Arabia was going to use Syria to pump out oil via Mediterreanean ports. Assad was not against this afterall Assad s government would be paid oil transit rights.

[Kemalist]

No one asked the US to assume the mantle of global policeman, and I'm opposed to my nation going into Syria. However, me might do it anyway, since it seems all any other country but Turkey, including ours, has done since all this violence began is idly fret on what course of action to take.

Like I said, I want the U.S to stay out of Syria. If nothing else, it might be interesting to see how bad things will get before another nation decides to take action.

Apparently America is hesitant to get his hands dirty this time, since there is the risk of facing Russia, China and especially Iran. So, they want to use Turkey as a bait.

[The Huskar Social Union]

We are in a period of time of warfare, where it matters on the hyperstate to decided. The United States is the most powerful country in the world, and will need to exert more control over the Middle East to have it remain peaceful, because no one is as powerful as the United States. It will sooner or later intervene, much to my distaste.

A foreign World Power sending its military into another country(ies) that wants nothing to do with it doesn't exactly keep the region those countries are in peaceful, if anything it builds up more tension due to the possibility of that force intervening again, this leads to radical actions and drastic events in said region, the rise of militant forces prying off of peoples fear of that power and other elements ultimately culminating in violence, destruction, death and war.

[The Huskar Social Union]

You are not American, and last time i checked Finland was not part of Nato nor had any interest in going there.

Finland is a part of the West, and the West must act as one.

More importantly, there's nothing shameful in not getting bogged down in yet another 3rd world conflict that will only get our troops needlessly killed, waste money and piss people off. Indeed, I consider having intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan a very deep source of shame, as an American.

Ah, sorry. I didn't realize that you enjoyed seeing kurds getting gassed and political dissidents being murdered. Ah, the wonders of non-interventionism.

Then By all means, be the first to take up arms "For the West" and be the first boots on the ground in Syria, ill be right behind you.

[Nua Corda]

You are not American, and last time i checked Finland was not part of Nato nor had any interest in going there.

Finland is a part of the West, and the West must act as one.

More importantly, there's nothing shameful in not getting bogged down in yet another 3rd world conflict that will only get our troops needlessly killed, waste money and piss people off. Indeed, I consider having intervened in Iraq and Afghanistan a very deep source of shame, as an American.

Ah, sorry. I didn't realize that you enjoyed seeing kurds getting gassed and political dissidents being murdered. Ah, the wonders of non-interventionism.

Sad, true, but the death toll among the common people since the invasion, and as a direct result of the actions of US forces, has skyrocketed far past anything Saddam ever did. One must look at the bigger picture here, and the bigger picture is that ultimately the invasion caused more harm than it prevented.

[SD_Film Artists]

No one asked the US to assume the mantle of global policeman, and I'm opposed to my nation going into Syria. However, me might do it anyway, since it seems all any other country but Turkey, including ours, has done since all this violence began is idly fret on what course of action to take.

Like I said, I want the U.S to stay out of Syria. If nothing else, it might be interesting to see how bad things will get before another nation decides to take action.

Apparently America is hesitant to get his hands dirty this time, since there is the risk of facing Russia, China and especially Iran. So, they want to use Turkey as a bait.

Just as America didn't intervene in Georgia, I don't think that Russia and China would intervene here other than Russia continuing to fly in troop wages to the government. Not that America would intervene in Syria anyway, as there isn't the will to have another Libya; and at least Libya's rebels were quite organised where as Syria's rebels are a patchwork of different groups with different ideologies.

[Al-Faisal]

Finland is a part of the West, and the West must act as one.


Ah, sorry. I didn't realize that you enjoyed seeing kurds getting gassed and political dissidents being murdered. Ah, the wonders of non-interventionism.

Then By all means, be the first to take up arms "For the West" and be the first boots on the ground in Syria, ill be right behind you.

It is far easier for him to encourage others to do so and do nothing himself. He would sing a different tune were it his boots on the ground.

[Hippostania]

Then By all means, be the first to take up arms "For the West" and be the first boots on the ground in Syria, ill be right behind you.

Alright, let me use that logic. If you want to pay for other people's healthcare and welfare, feel free to start yourself. I'll be right behind you.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Then By all means, be the first to take up arms "For the West" and be the first boots on the ground in Syria, ill be right behind you.

It is far easier for him to encourage others to do so and do nothing himself. He would sing a different tune were it his boots on the ground.

True, True.

[Renegade Island]

No, but they will. They've been planning it for months, probably years.

[The Occident]

No one asked the US to assume the mantle of global policeman, and I'm opposed to my nation going into Syria. However, me might do it anyway, since it seems all any other country but Turkey, including ours, has done since all this violence began is idly fret on what course of action to take.

Like I said, I want the U.S to stay out of Syria. If nothing else, it might be interesting to see how bad things will get before another nation decides to take action.

Apparently America is hesitant to get his hands dirty this time, since there is the risk of facing Russia, China and especially Iran. So, they want to use Turkey as a bait.

Iran, maybe. Good luck getting China or Russia to care.

[Hippostania]

Sad, true, but the death toll among the common people since the invasion, and as a direct result of the actions of US forces, has skyrocketed far past anything Saddam ever did. One must look at the bigger picture here, and the bigger picture is that ultimately the invasion caused more harm than it prevented.

Iraq is now a multi-party democracy. The Iraqis that were killed died so their homeland and their people could be free; there's nothing more honorable than that.

[Rio Cana]

And why does Turkey want Patriot missiles on its border with Syria. Is someone planning to attack them or what. Do you think there is a plan to enlarge the war which would could get Russia involve. If Russia was to get involve then having those patriot missiles would make sense. Against Syria no, since why would the current Syrian government want to pick a fight with Turkey when there plate is already full. Unless, Turkey thinks the Syrian Freedom fighters would fire a missile into Turkey to get them involved in the war.

[Al-Faisal]

Sad, true, but the death toll among the common people since the invasion, and as a direct result of the actions of US forces, has skyrocketed far past anything Saddam ever did. One must look at the bigger picture here, and the bigger picture is that ultimately the invasion caused more harm than it prevented.

Iraq is now a multi-party democracy. The Iraqis that were killed died so their homeland and their people could be free; there's nothing more honorable than that.

So honorable./

[Tairoth]

It should only intervene if other nations agree to it and.... to make sure America does not take advantage of the nation other democratic nations should also send troops to help the US and Syrian rebels.

[Nua Corda]

Sad, true, but the death toll among the common people since the invasion, and as a direct result of the actions of US forces, has skyrocketed far past anything Saddam ever did. One must look at the bigger picture here, and the bigger picture is that ultimately the invasion caused more harm than it prevented.

Iraq is now a multi-party democracy. The Iraqis that were killed died so their homeland and their people could be free; there's nothing more honorable than that.

Eh... not really.

They were civilians, not soldiers; they were murdered, many of them by US troops. And honor is a steaming load of horse dung, it means nothing.

That war was a travesty of ignorance, aggression and greed; we should have left bloody well alone. Saddam would have died soon enough, and his sons were rapidly self-destructing. An internal revolution was inevitable, and would have produce the same result with a far lower death toll.

[Kemalist]

And why does Turkey want Patriot missiles on its border with Syria. Is someone planning to attack them or what. Do you think there is a plan to enlarge the war which would could get Russia involve. If Russia was to get involve then having those patriot missiles would make sense. Against Syria no, since why would the current Syrian government want to pick a fight with Turkey when there plate is already full. Unless, Turkey thinks the Syrian Freedom fighters would fire a missile into Turkey to get them involved in the war.

Patriot missilies are not for Syria. The target in the background is Iran, and Turkey is being used as a station for this job.

[SD_Film Artists]

And why does Turkey want Patriot missiles on its border with Syria. Is someone planning to attack them or what. Do you think there is a plan to enlarge the war which would could get Russia involve. If Russia was to get involve then having those patriot missiles would make sense. Against Syria no, since why would the current Syrian government want to pick a fight with Turkey when there plate is already full. Unless, Turkey thinks the Syrian Freedom fighters would fire a missile into Turkey to get them involved in the war.

The Patriot missiles seem more like a show of international solidarity and reassuring the Turkish public (apart from Kemalist) rather than having a practical use. It'll take weeks for them to placed (including the bureaucracy involved) and as you said, there's no reason for Syria to attack Turkey.

[Hippostania]

Eh... not really.

They were civilians, not soldiers; they were murdered, many of them by US troops. And honor is a steaming load of horse dung, it means nothing.

That war was a travesty of ignorance, aggression and greed; we should have left bloody well alone. Saddam would have died soon enough, and his sons were rapidly self-destructing. An internal revolution was inevitable, and would have produce the same result with a far lower death toll.

Yes. There is nothing more honorable than dying for liberty. Civilian casualties happen, they're unfortunate but unavoidable. But those who died are heros; they made the ultimate sacrifice so Iraq could be free. And sorry, honor does mean something.

That war was a war of liberation and democracy. It could be compared to the emancipation of slaves; Iraqis who had been slaves under Saddam were liberated from the shackles of tyranny. It was the duty of the United States of America as the greatest nation on Earth to liberate the oppressed people of Iraq. Freedom doesn't need clocks.

[Hippostania]

So honorable./

Oh dear, terrorists, murderers and islamofascist scum are not being treated well ;___;

You'd rather have Saddam in charge?

[Al-Faisal]

Eh... not really.

They were civilians, not soldiers; they were murdered, many of them by US troops. And honor is a steaming load of horse dung, it means nothing.

That war was a travesty of ignorance, aggression and greed; we should have left bloody well alone. Saddam would have died soon enough, and his sons were rapidly self-destructing. An internal revolution was inevitable, and would have produce the same result with a far lower death toll.

Yes. There is nothing more honorable than dying for liberty. Civilian casualties happen, they're unfortunate but unavoidable. But those who died are heros; they made the ultimate sacrifice so Iraq could be free. And sorry, honor does mean something.

That war was a war of liberation and democracy. It could be compared to the emancipation of slaves; Iraqis who had been slaves under Saddam were liberated from the shackles of tyranny. It was the duty of the United States of America as the greatest nation on Earth to liberate the oppressed people of Iraq. Freedom doesn't need clocks.

I am still not sure if you just live in a fantasy world devised in your own mind, or if you secretly hate the United States and are using immensely subtle sarcasm to make fun of ignorantly fanatical pro-American peoples.

[Undivulged Principles]

I have been hearing a lot of talk lately on both NSG and other forums in which some people said that the U.S. should intervene in the Syrian Civil War to support the rebels. Personally I am against the idea because I feel that the United States shouldn't be intervening and acting like the world police. The world slammed the U.S. for the Afghanistan War, Libyan Civil War, Iraq War, and etc so I feel that is best that the United States doesn't intervene in Syria because all it would accomplish is cause more anti-america bashing and people calling the U.S. imperialist. But what are your thoughts?

We have no money so no. US should stop running into other peoples yard with a stick at the first sign of trouble. Shooting first and asking questions later is seldom a good solution.