UN tells Israel to let in nuclear inspectors

[Capitolinium]

It takes only one veto by any of the Big 5. It explains it in the link which I helpfully provided above for your educational awareness, if you would just click and read.

As I was saying: US veto/thread.

Alright? And i am saying if the three other SC countries voted in favor of it i have no doubt that the issue of "Veto Reform" Would no doubt be brought up again. I have a feeling that if the three other countries wanted them to play ball they would if only to keep that precious power which allows them to dominate the supposedly Democractic UN.

Not to mention in theory they could impart a military embargo upon Israel with out the SC's approval as that has occured in the past before.

The SC and their powers are known to me if not in any exact detail but i would assume that in the interest of preserving what little power basis these Nations have that they would in fact vote in favor of the resolution if gained the approval of the other three, Hard to do but certainly not impossible. Russia and China and America have voted on the samethings occasionally and i can see england and France following the Nato meal ticket.

Until it happens, all of your ill wishes against Israel are only wishes.

[Strykla]

When is somebody going to grow a pair and strike Iran?

[The Zeonic States]

Alright? And i am saying if the three other SC countries voted in favor of it i have no doubt that the issue of "Veto Reform" Would no doubt be brought up again. I have a feeling that if the three other countries wanted them to play ball they would if only to keep that precious power which allows them to dominate the supposedly Democractic UN.

Not to mention in theory they could impart a military embargo upon Israel with out the SC's approval as that has occured in the past before.

The SC and their powers are known to me if not in any exact detail but i would assume that in the interest of preserving what little power basis these Nations have that they would in fact vote in favor of the resolution if gained the approval of the other three, Hard to do but certainly not impossible. Russia and China and America have voted on the samethings occasionally and i can see england and France following the Nato meal ticket.

Until it happens, all of your ill wishes against Israel are only wishes.

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

[Capitolinium]

When is somebody going to grow a pair and strike Iran?

This reminds me of a discussion I had the other day with an associate. Ahmedinejad has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the map and says he'll use nukes to do it as closely as he can without actually saying, "We're going to nuke them".

Imagine the reaction if Obama publicly said the same thing- the whole world would clamor over it. But Iran gets a free pass on that kind of rhetoric.

Interesting.

[IshCong]

It takes only one veto by any of the Big 5. It explains it in the link which I helpfully provided above for your educational awareness, if you would just click and read.

As I was saying: US veto/thread.

Alright? And i am saying if the three other SC countries voted in favor of it i have no doubt that the issue of "Veto Reform" Would no doubt be brought up again. I have a feeling that if the three other countries wanted them to play ball they would if only to keep that precious power which allows them to dominate the supposedly Democractic UN

Uh, no. The US has a long history of vetoing SC resolutions that would otherwise condemn/make-life-difficult-for Israel. It's the leading cause of SC vetoes atm, unless I miss my guess. It's highly unlikely that a proposal to label Israel as a rogue state for failing to abide by a non-binding GA resolution will even show up, and if it does no one is going to be surprised if/when the US vetoes it.

Veto reform is more often pushed forward by other groups aside from the P5, AFAICT, since the P5 rather enjoy having their veto powers and don't want to risk removing or diluting them. It's not worth it to suddenly be unable to safe-guard their own interests at any point in the future.

Not to mention in theory they could impart a military embargo upon Israel with out the SC's approval as that has occured in the past before.

When?

The SC and their powers are known to me if not in any exact detail but i would assume that in the interest of preserving what little power basis these Nations have that they would in fact vote in favor of the resolution if gained the approval of the other three,

Why? They haven't in the past. And they can't overturn a veto in any event. You'd have to get the US to agree to condemn Israel as a rogue state.
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Good luck with that.

[Capitolinium]

Until it happens, all of your ill wishes against Israel are only wishes.

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

Spoken like a true hater of Israel's very existence. Congratulations- you stand in really good company.

[IshCong]

Until it happens, all of your ill wishes against Israel are only wishes.

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

So you're not in favor of a two-state solution then?

[The Zeonic States]

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

So you're not in favor of a two-state solution then?

Not unless SIGNiFICANT political changes occur within Israel and make them realize they cannot play the Bully forever.

Hopefully that would come quicker with the ceasation of monies and techology to them by the Americans.

But i would not mind Palestine being reformed; I donated to the PLO for that very reason.

[The Republique Dardania and Gazmania]

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

Spoken like a true hater of Israel's very existence. Congratulations- you stand in really good company.

You forgot this guy...

-just sayin.

[IshCong]

Spoken like a true hater of Israel's very existence. Congratulations- you stand in really good company.

You forgot this guy...

-just sayin.

Is this about him saying the Jews should have thrown themselves off of cliffs during the Holocaust?

[The Zeonic States]

You forgot this guy...

-just sayin.

Is this about him saying the Jews should have thrown themselves off of cliffs during the Holocaust?

It might have made the Middle a Quieter place; Or rather them just killing each or banding together to invade Europe again like in the Old days...We need another Crusade anyway.

[Post War America]

Absolutely, if every other country that the world thinks has nuclear capability, has to, so should Israel.

[The Zeonic States]

That's all Wishes are until they are acheived just some fantasy but Israel can keep up this Charade forever eventually it will end and that Nation will cease to exist how it ceases to exist i would hopefully like to be left up to them. Still in favor of Peaceful disbanding of the State or a Military invasion ripping it down; Eitherway works and gets the job.

Spoken like a true hater of Israel's very existence. Congratulations- you stand in really good company.

I am glad my idea's are so widely accepted...In the middle east.

<_< By people i wouldn't want to be in the same room with...

[IshCong]

Is this about him saying the Jews should have thrown themselves off of cliffs during the Holocaust?

It might have made the Middle a Quieter place; Or rather them just killing each or banding together to invade Europe again like in the Old days...We need another Crusade anyway.

There is no part of this I can respond to sanely.

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Absolutely, if every other country that the world thinks has nuclear capability, has to, so should Israel.

Spoiler Alert: Every other country in the world doesn't have to, and neither does Israel even with this resolution. North Korea, India, and Pakistan all have some sort of nuclear program or weapons, and none are part of the NPT.

[The Zeonic States]

It might have made the Middle a Quieter place; Or rather them just killing each or banding together to invade Europe again like in the Old days...We need another Crusade anyway.

There is no part of this I can respond to sanely.

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Absolutely, if every other country that the world thinks has nuclear capability, has to, so should Israel.

Spoiler Alert: Every other country in the world doesn't have to, and neither does Israel even with this resolution. North Korea, India, and Pakistan all have some sort of nuclear program or weapons, and none are part of the NPT.

And?

I view the formation of Israel as Illegal anyway; I really don't need to justify that bit it's History. The British seized it and gifted it to some random folks that moved into it; It's like home invading some one and handing their property over to a bum at gunpoint.

I cited the Ottoman Invasions of Europe which some fairly heady times up in Europe even if their pushes were eventually shoved back to that craphole they call a capital.

Thirdly i like the Crusades. (Besides the first and Children's crusade)

._. It's just a mixture of personal opinion and my take on historical events.

[IshCong]

There is no part of this I can respond to sanely.

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Spoiler Alert: Every other country in the world doesn't have to, and neither does Israel even with this resolution. North Korea, India, and Pakistan all have some sort of nuclear program or weapons, and none are part of the NPT.

And?

I view the formation of Israel as Illegal anyway; I really don't need to justify that bit it's History. The British seized it and gifted it to some random folks that moved into it; It's like home invading some one and handing their property over to a bum at gunpoint.

I cited the Ottoman Invasions of Europe which some fairly heady times up in Europe even if their pushes were eventually shoved back to that craphole they call a capital.

Thirdly i like the Crusades. (Besides the first and Children's crusade)

._. It's just a mixture of personal opinion and my take on historical events.

There is still no part of a comment stating an entire race should have been obliterated, followed up by a call for another Crusade of all things my sane mind wants to deal with.
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Actually, my insane mind doesn't want to deal with that either.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Why does Isreal need nukes, they could give every middle eastern country an ass kicking with conventional forces.

[The Republique Dardania and Gazmania]

You forgot this guy...

(Image)-just sayin.

Is this about him saying the Jews should have thrown themselves off of cliffs during the Holocaust?

Actually more like -

"cruelly wronged by the world."

His supposed anti-Semitism has always been up for debate, but, what I was referring to was this.

"my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?"

[IshCong]

Is this about him saying the Jews should have thrown themselves off of cliffs during the Holocaust?

Actually more like -

"cruelly wronged by the world."

His supposed anti-Semitism has always been up for debate, but, what I was referring to was this.

"my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and in the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after their return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?"

It was a sincere question. I wasn't sure if his debated Antisemitism was what you were referring to, or if you were referring to something more specific.

[Absurdity]

How would this "screw over" Israel?

if you don't support israels right to do whatever the hell they want where they want when they want you're screwing israel over and are basically setting up the stage for a second holocaust

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[The Zeonic States]

And?

I view the formation of Israel as Illegal anyway; I really don't need to justify that bit it's History. The British seized it and gifted it to some random folks that moved into it; It's like home invading some one and handing their property over to a bum at gunpoint.

I cited the Ottoman Invasions of Europe which some fairly heady times up in Europe even if their pushes were eventually shoved back to that craphole they call a capital.

Thirdly i like the Crusades. (Besides the first and Children's crusade)

._. It's just a mixture of personal opinion and my take on historical events.

There is still no part of a comment stating an entire race should have been obliterated, followed up by a call for another Crusade of all things my sane mind wants to deal with.
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Actually, my insane mind doesn't want to deal with that either.

o.o They wouldn't be the first group of people to removed from existance; Honestly it's not like Genocide is anything new and besides it didn't occur so whatever my opinion on that event is it doesn't espeically matter. I need to deal with Israel so i do. I do like how people thought the diaper wearer was a man of peace and enlightment but oh my was he a "racist" I wish they would either be a people or a religion honestly it gets annoying.


And Crusades were very good cases of foreign Imperialism and managed to kill off Islamic expansion of influence into Europe something i believe should occur. So yeah instead of calling it insane you could merely ask for an explanation. Not to mention that according to some records there was a crusade going on within the Middle east just a bit ago. Of course that really depends upon how you view the "War on Terror" to be honest but anyway.

People always talk about the Jews and the concentration camps and the genocide of them and all that; What i don't understand is all the attention to one that was a failure, there have been successful genocides oh those poor visigoths were the roman's killed or took the men into their Military and interagrated or enslaved the women.

Within a few generations an entre culture, a people were rubble. And we so rarely hear about it; A successful genocide campaign and yet the one that failed is constantly lamented. I understand that it was no doubt a stressful and draining event upon the people but it didn't arrive it's end did it?

Anyway i am rambling now i think am going to head to bed pretty soon.

[Souseiseki]

if you don't support israels right to do whatever the hell they want where they want when they want you're screwing israel over and are basically setting up the stage for a second holocaust

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i don't see why it's 0/10

it's literally what some of the posters here believe, up to and including YOU GUYS ARE SETTING UP FOR THE SECOND HOLOCAUST GOOD JOB

[The Zeonic States]

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i don't see why it's 0/10

it's literally what some of the posters here believe, up to and including YOU GUYS ARE SETTING UP FOR THE SECOND HOLOCAUST GOOD JOB

I doubt it; A genocide campaign is very expensive and it's generally more effective to just enslave the folks Look at the Romans!

[Absurdity]

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i don't see why it's 0/10

it's literally what some of the posters here believe, up to and including YOU GUYS ARE SETTING UP FOR THE SECOND HOLOCAUST GOOD JOB

You're exaggerating. Just a tad.

[Souseiseki]

i don't see why it's 0/10

it's literally what some of the posters here believe, up to and including YOU GUYS ARE SETTING UP FOR THE SECOND HOLOCAUST GOOD JOB

You're exaggerating. Just a tad.

UN recognizes PA? "And now we move one step closer to a second Holocaust....."

i'm really not

i wish i was