UN tells Israel to let in nuclear inspectors

[Tmutarakhan]

Israel will let in nuclear inspectors or the U.S. will pay them back for the Liberty incident tenfold

When Israelis spy on the US, the US does not tolerate that either. Jonathan Pollard will never be let out of prison.

[The Zeonic States]

Israel will let in nuclear inspectors or the U.S. will pay them back for the Liberty incident tenfold

When Israelis spy on the US, the US does not tolerate that either. Jonathan Pollard will never be let out of prison.

That's sort of the agreed upon International price for High Treason or Espionage depending upon how you look at a National sending classified information to foreigners you know.

.-. Prick deserves to rot in prision

However that doesn't compare to a unprovoked Military assault which Killed active duty United States Military Personal; Accident or no.

Why that didn't kill the support between the United states and Israel i will never know; Sure they got paid back with interest and that shut up the politicians and even a few of the familes but that "Accident" could have been considered an act of war.

[Wintersun]

When Israelis spy on the US, the US does not tolerate that either. Jonathan Pollard will never be let out of prison.

That's sort of the agreed upon International price for High Treason or Espionage depending upon how you look at a National sending classified information to foreigners you know.

.-. Prick deserves to rot in prision

Prison is a bit nice don't you think? Send him to Palestine. They'll take mighty good care of him I'm sure

[Tmutarakhan]

When Israelis spy on the US, the US does not tolerate that either. Jonathan Pollard will never be let out of prison.

That's sort of the agreed upon International price for High Treason or Espionage depending upon how you look at a National sending classified information to foreigners you know.

.-. Prick deserves to rot in prision

We have managed to agree on something. In any case, the point was that the US can't expect its agents to be treated well when they get caught spying, either. It's just the way of the world.

[The Zeonic States]

That's sort of the agreed upon International price for High Treason or Espionage depending upon how you look at a National sending classified information to foreigners you know.

.-. Prick deserves to rot in prision

We have managed to agree on something. In any case, the point was that the US can't expect its agents to be treated well when they get caught spying, either. It's just the way of the world.

The Liberty incident was an unprovoked assault on United States Warship in International waters; I wouldn't compare that to a Espionage conviction personally. More like a declaration of war.

[Tmutarakhan]

We have managed to agree on something. In any case, the point was that the US can't expect its agents to be treated well when they get caught spying, either. It's just the way of the world.

The Liberty incident was an unprovoked assault on United States Warship in International waters; I wouldn't compare that to a Espionage conviction personally. More like a declaration of war.

We sent a spy ship into the middle of a war zone, unannounced; the Israelis at first thought it was an Egyptian ship with a false flag, since we were slow to admit that we had any ships in the area; it is highly likely that it was, indeed, transmitting intelligence to the Egyptian side (remember that we were not friendly to Israel back then).

[The Zeonic States]

The Liberty incident was an unprovoked assault on United States Warship in International waters; I wouldn't compare that to a Espionage conviction personally. More like a declaration of war.

We sent a spy ship into the middle of a war zone, unannounced; the Israelis at first thought it was an Egyptian ship with a false flag, since we were slow to admit that we had any ships in the area; it is highly likely that it was, indeed, transmitting intelligence to the Egyptian side (remember that we were not friendly to Israel back then).

And so what if it was?It was within INTERNATIONAL WATERS What it was doing out there was United States Military Bussiness and not subject to be judged or viewed by Any one outside of that until it involved and to my knowledge it never was acknowledged if they were doing that. In short? Even worse then the Unprovoked assault upon the Nuclear refinery in Iraq in my opinion oh no his was not attack upon civilian infastructure and civilians but uniformed soldiers.

Act of War is how i describe this; Sure they paid off the families and good them for getting the Polticians the same way but despite that being before my time i view it as a Mistake upon Israel's behalf which is their own position which they readily admit. They fucking better, You don't see The United States launching assaults upon their warships in International waters.

The fact they knew what it was a United States Navy Warship and attacked it anyway? Well...They were just lucky i was not the fellow sitting in the Oval Office that day.

[Divair]

Israel will let in nuclear inspectors or the U.S. will pay them back for the Liberty incident tenfold

This is the same US that barely has the balls to condemn Israel, let alone get "pay back"?

[Wintersun]

Israel will let in nuclear inspectors or the U.S. will pay them back for the Liberty incident tenfold

This is the same US that barely has the balls to condemn Israel, let alone get "pay back"?

It's not pay back at all. If it was payback we'd wipe them off the map. That would make us even. Remember, we saved their entire race.

[Wind in the Willows]

I personally think they should open up to inspectors, but I predict that Israel will just not let them in the country.

[Divair]

It's not pay back at all.

Doing something to "make up" for something that happened. That is exactly what pay back is.

If it was payback we'd wipe them off the map. That would make us even.

Your sense of fairness is beyond disturbing.

Remember, we saved their entire race.

You, and the British, Canadians, Russians, French, Poles, Australians, and so on.

[Potlimitomaha]

It's not pay back at all. If it was payback we'd wipe them off the map. That would make us even. Remember, we saved their entire race.

Somebody report him to the moderators.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

It's not pay back at all. If it was payback we'd wipe them off the map. That would make us even. Remember, we saved their entire race.

Somebody report him to the moderators.

If you think there's a rules violation, you do it. In the Moderation forum.

[Potlimitomaha]

Somebody report him to the moderators.

If you think there's a rules violation, you do it. In the Moderation forum.

How?.

[IshCong]

If you think there's a rules violation, you do it. In the Moderation forum.

How?.

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[Capitolinium]

UN tells Israel to let in nuclear inspectors

And Israel tells the UN to pound sand. More at 11.

[Valkalan]

Israel is a small nation surrounded by much larger nations that in the past have proven to be hostile. If Israel does in fact posses nuclear arms, I can't say I blame them.

[The Zeonic States]

UN tells Israel to let in nuclear inspectors

And Israel tells the UN to pound sand. More at 11.

The UN declares Israel a rogue Nation in possession of Nuclear Arms More at five

[Korya]

About time.

[Capitolinium]

And Israel tells the UN to pound sand. More at 11.

The UN declares Israel a rogue Nation in possession of Nuclear Arms More at five

Vetoed by the US (and possibly the UK). /Thread

[The Zeonic States]

The UN declares Israel a rogue Nation in possession of Nuclear Arms More at five

Vetoed by the US (and possibly the UK). /Thread

And That's two members of the Security council which is not a majority assuming britain even does it which they probably would (Basically lackies of whatever the Americans do) Aka it still would have a major chance of passing if it actually got to the point of a Vote.

Oh that would be a interesting day to say the least

[Capitolinium]

Vetoed by the US (and possibly the UK). /Thread

And That's two members of the Security council which is not a majority assuming britain even does it which they probably would (Basically lackies of whatever the Americans do) Aka it still would have a major chance of passing if it actually got to the point of a Vote.

Oh that would be a interesting day to say the least

Security Council vetoes

The veto is exercised when any permanent member—the so-called "P5"—casts a "negative" vote on a "substantive" draft resolution. Abstention or absence from the vote by a permanent member does not prevent a draft resolution from being adopted.

Although the "power of veto" is not explicitly mentioned in the UN Charter, the fact that "substantive" decisions by the UNSC require "the concurring votes of the permanent members", means that any of those permanent members can prevent the adoption, by the Council, of any draft resolutions on "substantive" matters. For this reason, the "power of veto" is also referred to as the principle of "great Power unanimity".[6]

[The Zeonic States]

And That's two members of the Security council which is not a majority assuming britain even does it which they probably would (Basically lackies of whatever the Americans do) Aka it still would have a major chance of passing if it actually got to the point of a Vote.

Oh that would be a interesting day to say the least

Security Council vetoes

The veto is exercised when any permanent member—the so-called "P5"—casts a "negative" vote on a "substantive" draft resolution. Abstention or absence from the vote by a permanent member does not prevent a draft resolution from being adopted.

Although the "power of veto" is not explicitly mentioned in the UN Charter, the fact that "substantive" decisions by the UNSC require "the concurring votes of the permanent members", means that any of those permanent members can prevent the adoption, by the Council, of any draft resolutions on "substantive" matters. For this reason, the "power of veto" is also referred to as the principle of "great Power unanimity".[6]

What Happens when Russia and China support it though? Just curious? What if the French hopped on there with them as well? We are talking what if's what happened if the SC ruled in favor of the move; I guess that little veto wouldn't do much then i guess.

[Capitolinium]

Security Council vetoes

What Happens when Russia and China support it though? Just curious? What if the French hopped on there with them as well? We are talking what if's what happened if the SC ruled in favor of the move; I guess that little veto wouldn't do much then i guess.

It takes only one veto by any of the Big 5. It explains it in the link which I helpfully provided above for your educational awareness, if you would just click and read.

As I was saying: US veto/thread.

[The Zeonic States]

What Happens when Russia and China support it though? Just curious? What if the French hopped on there with them as well? We are talking what if's what happened if the SC ruled in favor of the move; I guess that little veto wouldn't do much then i guess.

It takes only one veto by any of the Big 5. It explains it in the link which I helpfully provided above for your educational awareness, if you would just click and read.

As I was saying: US veto/thread.

Alright? And i am saying if the three other SC countries voted in favor of it i have no doubt that the issue of "Veto Reform" Would no doubt be brought up again. I have a feeling that if the three other countries wanted them to play ball they would if only to keep that precious power which allows them to dominate the supposedly Democractic UN.

Not to mention in theory they could impart a military embargo upon Israel with out the SC's approval as that has occured in the past before.

The SC and their powers are known to me if not in any exact detail but i would assume that in the interest of preserving what little power basis these Nations have that they would in fact vote in favor of the resolution if gained the approval of the other three, Hard to do but certainly not impossible. Russia and China and America have voted on the samethings occasionally and i can see england and France following the Nato meal ticket.