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Postby The Mighty Warrior Horse » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:33 am

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Landenburg wrote:First off, the Third Reich was a totalitarian dictatorship.

Second, everyone hated the jews, so why no blame them for your problems? Americans do it with Muslims and Mexicans.

Third, Hitler may have killed 6 million, but STALIN killed 60 MILLION.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

A fascist totalitarian dictatorship. I think Hitler killed more like ten, and Stalin killed maybe twenty.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Better. :)
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Postby The Corparation » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Landenburg wrote:I used Stalin as an example because you go on about the 6 million Hitler killed.
Want to argue?
Start something with the "communists"
As if they know what communism actually is.

Oddly enough most of the people I've seen bash communism don't actually know what it is. There has never been an actual communist goverment in any nation. Copied from wiki cause I'm lazy: "Communism is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order" Note the underlined bits. Not a single goddamn "communist" country has achieved any of those things or anything close, I hardly think that calling your nation communist is grounds to ignore what Communism actually is. I can call myself a Millionaire, but that doesn't mean I automatically become one and fit the definition Now can we end this thread-jack, and shut up about Stalin and Communism? And nobody is arguing that Stalin wasn't bad. Honestly using SI units he clocks in at around five hitlers. One Hitler is about 6x10^6 Human lives.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Lindenholt wrote:The only bad things Hitler did was killing the Jews and starting a world war, but if he didn't do these things Hitler was maybe the best leader of Germany in history. Because he made jobs and roads

Not really no.

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Postby The Mighty Warrior Horse » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Diouyu wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Ehem even the most liberal numbers about Stalin are never above 10 how the heck did he manage to kill 60?

No, Stalin got about twenty. How did you put hitler that low?

Because communism that's why
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Postby Ovisterra » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Lindenholt wrote:The only bad things Hitler did was killing the Jews and starting a world war, but if he didn't do these things


But he did do those things.
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Postby The Remote Islands » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:34 am

Lindenholt wrote:The only bad things Hitler did was killing the Jews and starting a world war, but if he didn't do these things Hitler was maybe the best leader of Germany in history. Because he made jobs and roads

2/10 try harder
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Postby Globocom Enterprises » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

If any of you clowns knew anything about leadership as a skillset you would know that in fact - Hitler was an exemplary leader.

Leadership is about taking a group of people from once place to another, be it physically, spiritually, economically, or other.

Hitler's leadership was so impressive, that an entire generation of people followed him to thier deaths.

Ask any soldier you know, who the best commander they served for was, and if they'd follow them into hell, even if they knew it meant their death, and they'll pick one.


What Hitler was "bad" at was military strategy.

That said, if you still want to critique Hitlers leadership skillset, I would strike as some of the events he micro-managed, and his lack of delegating-to/trusting subordinates completly.

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Postby Landenburg » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

You speak as if America, France, England, and Russia had nothing to do with the deaths.
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Postby Divair » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:
Diouyu wrote:No, Stalin got about twenty. How did you put hitler that low?

Because communism that's why

Stalinism.

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Postby Torisakia » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

What's with all the Hitler threads lately?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

Globocom Enterprises wrote:If any of you clowns knew anything about leadership as a skillset you would know that in fact - Hitler was an exemplary leader.

Leadership is about taking a group of people from once place to another, be it physically, spiritually, economically, or other.

Hitler's leadership was so impressive, that an entire generation of people followed him to thier deaths.

Ask any soldier you know, who the best commander they served for was, and if they'd follow them into hell, even if they knew it meant their death, and they'll pick one.


What Hitler was "bad" at was military strategy.

That said, if you still want to critique Hitlers leadership skillset, I would strike as some of the events he micro-managed, and his lack of delegating-to/trusting subordinates completly.


That must be why most of the government wings were either completely ignoring his orders or secretly plotting to get rid of him.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 am

Also a reminder to everyone else to keep the thread on-topic.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:36 am

The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:
Diouyu wrote:A fascist totalitarian dictatorship. I think Hitler killed more like ten, and Stalin killed maybe twenty.

Correct.

Not really. The numbers for Stalin tend to include everyone that died of a lung infection while he was in power while the numbers for Hitler tend to only include the Jews and forget everyone else. Particularly those that died of lung infections because of Hitler. It's an apples and oranges comparison meant to make right wingers feel better.

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Postby Divair » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:36 am

Landenburg wrote:You speak as if America, France, England, and Russia had nothing to do with the deaths.

With the 73 million indirectly? Sure, the Allies ended up killing 12 million civilians/troops.

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Postby New Roboland » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:36 am

guys guys
the thread ask
Why was Hitler not responsible for the economy being fixed?
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Postby Landenburg » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:37 am

Stalin killed 60 million over a longer period of time.
You hail him as a hero.
He destroyed the USSR's economy.
He got more things than others did, making him not a true communist.
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Postby Chinamerica » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:37 am

Divair wrote:
Landenburg wrote:Third, Hitler may have killed 6 million, but STALIN killed 60 MILLION.

Actually, the Holocaust resulted in 11 million dead. And Hitler starting WW2 indirectly resulted in the total loss of 73 million lives.

When did Stalin enter the discussion, by the way?

Nobody knows how many people in total were killed in the Holocaust, but it was between 11 and 17 million people.
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Postby Laerod » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 am

New Roboland wrote:guys guys
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Why was Hitler not responsible for the economy being fixed?

Because Hitler didn't fix the economy.
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Postby The Remote Islands » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 am

Republic Of Hell wrote:I wouldn't say he's a bad leader. He was an evil one, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a highly intelligent and charismatic person.

As far as I understand, he kind of got lucky with the whole taking over Germany thing. Also most of what he did up until Operation Barbarossa. I guess he was sort of charismatic, but it was (and still is) in the way a genocidal dictator is usually viewed.
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Postby Divair » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 am

Landenburg wrote:Stalin killed 60 million over a longer period of time.
You hail him as a hero.
He destroyed the USSR's economy.
He got more things than others did, making him not a true communist.

Please. Use the quote button. We have no clue who you are talking to.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 am

The GDP increase can be put down to a few things.
Mainly that, well, bombs and guns count toward a GDP rating. Nonetheless, i'd argue that inspite of being a statistically successful nation (thanks in part to tricks like not counting women as part of the work force etc.), the economy of nazi germany rather misses the entire point of having an economy.
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Postby CTALNH » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:38 am

Divair wrote:
The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:Because communism that's why

Stalinism.

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Chinamerica wrote:
Divair wrote:Actually, the Holocaust resulted in 11 million dead. And Hitler starting WW2 indirectly resulted in the total loss of 73 million lives.

When did Stalin enter the discussion, by the way?

Nobody knows how many people in total were killed in the Holocaust, but it was between 11 and 17 million people.

17 million? No. The most recent estimates are between 10 and 12, with most people agreeing roughly 11.

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Postby The Mighty Warrior Horse » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:39 am

Landenburg wrote:You speak as if America, France, England, and Russia had nothing to do with the deaths.

Yes, because its soooooooo easy to invade a country like ww2 Germany backed by at 1st one of the top 3 military's in the world. Please, explain how easy this is.
France was taken over by the nazis
Britain could barley fight with France
Russia couldn't fight a 1 front only war with Germany
And America couldn't fight Japan and Germany alone.
There main objective was to defeat Germany, not stop the holacaust.
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