Why was Hitler not responsible for the economy being fixed?

[Chinamerica]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

[Generic Socialist Country]

Because he was a Fascist Scum, and Fascist Scum are devoured by Capitalist Pigs as they eat their slop in their mud pins.

Equally, of course.

[Ostroeuropa]

You mean other than declaring most of the german population to be scum and such?
Well, theres starting a war he couldn't possibly win. The megalomania thing.
And the economic boost during the period is ... well.



FASCIST ECONOMICS.

I have 10,000 dollars and a farm.
My neighbour has 10,000 dollars and a farm.
I buy a gun and now have 5000 dollars and a gun.
I shoot my neighbour and take his money and farm.

I now have 15,000 dollars and two farms. I claim this is proof of my genius.
Next week, the harvest fails because I failed to buy a tractor and can't possibly work two farms by myself.
I Blame the jews.
The next week, the police arrive and beat me up for shooting my neighbor.

[Malshan]

He was an excellent orator, but unfortunately that doesn't make him a good leader.

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

[Equestrian Democratic Republic]

Hitler was a bad leader because my jewish history teacher said so.

Seriously though he implemented the Holocaust which killed 11,000,000 people, founded the very racist ideology of National Socialism, was a dictator, and he started WW2 by invading Poland.

[Ostroeuropa]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

It's because they didn't count Women in the employment statistics, and all the women previously employed were told to give Men their job.

[Chinamerica]

You mean other than declaring most of the german population to be scum and such?
Well, theres starting a war he couldn't possibly win. The megalomania thing.
And the economic boost during the period is ... well.



FASCIST ECONOMICS.

I have 10,000 dollars and a farm.
My neighbour has 10,000 dollars and a farm.
I buy a gun and now have 5000 dollars and a gun.
I shoot my neighbour and take his money and farm.

I now have 15,000 dollars and two farms. I claim this is proof of my genius.
Next week, the harvest fails because I failed to buy a tractor and can't possibly work two farms by myself.
I Blame the jews.
The next week, the police arrive and beat me up for shooting my neighbor.

So true xD But could I have something lengthier? Apparently, the only reason the economy picked up was because
*People were forced to work, otherwise they'd get no unemployment benefits
*Jews and women weren't allowed to work
*Laws passed during the Weimar government first took effect the year Hitler took power

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Tmutarakhan]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

He was not prejudiced against faces.

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

It's because they didn't count Women in the employment statistics, and all the women previously employed were told to give Men their job.

Huh, didn't know that.
In that case, a so-so leader.

[Chinamerica]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

That's not the point. I know he was an idiot for invading the USSR, being a racist asshole, etcetera etcetera...but what I want to know if he was a good leader when it comes to economics.

[Ovisterra]

I never got the point of the "Hitler's economics were good" argument. I mean, even if they were (which they weren't) he still killed millions of people, so that slightly outweighs any economic benefit.

[Ostroeuropa]

other than autobahns and industrial production
(Both of which he had to essentially cede control of to the Conservative faction of his government who despised him, speer being an example, after he and the nazi's consistently fucked it up by being balls to the wall insane)
His fiscal policy was incredibly stupid. Somewhere along the line he heard that

"German agricultural production is bad because we aren't using the land efficiently, we'd need a country the size of russia using our current methods to feed ourselves."
and thought the emphasis was on "country the size of russia" instead of "current methods."

Which pretty much sums up the entire economic thinking of the fascists.
"Fuck efficiency, grab more stuff so the waste isn't so bad."

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

That's not the point. I know he was an idiot for invading the USSR, being a racist asshole, etcetera etcetera...but what I want to know if he was a good leader when it comes to economics.

Depends on your point of view
If you include Jews and women into unemployment, the rate is around 5-6% from what I've heard.
He did get many Germans involved in the millitary
IMO, he was so-so

[New Roboland]

FASCIST ECONOMICS.

I have 10,000 dollars and a farm.
My neighbour has 10,000 dollars and a farm.
I buy a gun and now have 5000 dollars and a gun.
I shoot my neighbour and take his money and farm.

I now have 15,000 dollars and two farms. I claim this is proof of my genius.
Next week, the harvest fails because I failed to buy a tractor and can't possibly work two farms by myself.
I Blame the jews.
The next week, the police arrive and beat me up for shooting my neighbor.

just, epic you won the internet

[Tyrants]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

Well, apparently, Hitler's economy was haemorraging (sp?) money left right and centre. Joining with Austria only delayed the inevitable. If he hadn't invaded Poland, the German market would have crashed and Germany would be unable to pay its war reparations, worsening the Depression and even possibly leading to war anyway.

[The Remote Islands]

To be quite honest, other then being a facist, being racist, and the holacaust, he wasn't.
He had quite a bit of the population in the millitary, and somehow kept German unemployment at under 4%.
If he hasn't been racist and facist, he would have gone down as a great leader.
I'm not a nazi, or racist btw.

That's not the point. I know he was an idiot for invading the USSR, being a racist asshole, etcetera etcetera...but what I want to know if he was a good leader when it comes to economics.

As far as I know, Hitler got Germany's economy moving again by defying the Versailles Treaty (which sucked and led to the rise of the Nazis in the first place but that's another story) and kick-starting the military-industrial complex (with a bit of government legwork, i think). Technically, he wasn't that bad in regards to the economy. Technically. I don't know if he could have overseen an actual economic recovery (I.E. without gearing up for the supreme Aryan conquest of the lesser peoples by the way i'm kidding here).

Also, according to Tyrants, I wouldn't disbelieve that the Nazi government was losing money. I don't know exactly how much, but apparently it was. Being that Hitler wasn't the brightest anti-semite in the hate rally (he just got really lucky so i understand), the government-subsidized military economy wouldn't have done very well at all if he hadn't gone and started the deadliest war in human history.

Also also,

I never got the point of the "Hitler's economics were good" argument. I mean, even if they were (which they weren't) he still killed millions of people, so that slightly outweighs any economic benefit.

[Landenburg]

Because he was a Fascist Scum, and Fascist Scum are devoured by Capitalist Pigs as they eat their slop in their mud pins.

Equally, of course.

Go educate yourself moron.
Italy was fascist, not Germany.

[Equestrian Democratic Republic]

I never got the point of the "Hitler's economics were good" argument. I mean, even if they were (which they weren't) he still killed millions of people, so that slightly outweighs any economic benefit.

You forgot about the benefit of cool symbols and uniforms

[Tyrants]

FASCIST ECONOMICS.

I have 10,000 dollars and a farm.
My neighbour has 10,000 dollars and a farm.
I buy a gun and now have 5000 dollars and a gun.
I shoot my neighbour and take his money and farm.

I now have 15,000 dollars and two farms. I claim this is proof of my genius.
Next week, the harvest fails because I failed to buy a tractor and can't possibly work two farms by myself.
I Blame the jews.
The next week, the police arrive and beat me up for shooting my neighbor.

just, epic you won the internet [/quote]

Wouldn't go that far. He's won a server at best.

[The Corparation]

I never got the point of the "Hitler's economics were good" argument. I mean, even if they were (which they weren't) he still killed millions of people, so that slightly outweighs any economic benefit.

This ^ I don't care how well his economic policies worked (Which by the way the didn't) , starting WWII and performing genocide outweigh it. And I'd like to point out that Germany's entire economy under Hitler was geared toward the war, which again is a bad thing.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Your title is acting as a lightning rod for off-topic comentary. I suggest you change it to something like, "Did Hitler's Germany have a sound Economic plan?" or something like that. Rather than change it myself, I'll give you the chance if you can think of something that suits you better.

[Senkaku]

There was somebody on these forums who had a lot of info in their sig explaining why Hitler didn't 'fix' the German economy and how the statement 'he was a good leader apart from the Holocaust thing' is untrue.

Can someone help me find this person? I'm in an argument with a Nazi at the moment.

Yeah, he did sorta help fix their economy.
Of course, then the Allies bombed the hell out of it, but...

[The Mighty Warrior Horse]

Because he was a Fascist Scum, and Fascist Scum are devoured by Capitalist Pigs as they eat their slop in their mud pins.

Equally, of course.

Go educate yourself moron.
Italy was fascist, not Germany.

Actually, your wrong.
Hitler used Italian fascism in the nazi party.
Wikipedia
Another "source"
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 931AAb44rW

[Landenburg]

First off, the Third Reich was a totalitarian dictatorship.

Second, everyone hated the jews, so why no blame them for your problems? Americans do it with Muslims and Mexicans.

Third, Hitler may have killed 6 million, but STALIN killed 60 MILLION.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.