Pregnant Chinese women giving birth in America?

[Dremono]

It's not illegal..this really won't put a dent in either place.

[Esternial]

I thought the angry Americans would be happy that they're beating the Chinese here, but no.

[Caninope]

If people don't like it, they should get the US to change laws so birth in the country is not an automatic citizenship -- require residency for at least one of the parents, perhaps. There are a number of countries where being born there doesn't grant citizenship, which is why I'm not triple-national. What these women are doing is legal and I don't see a problem with it.

Change laws?

No, you'd have to change the Constitution.

[Caninope]

If people don't like it, they should get the US to change laws so birth in the country is not an automatic citizenship -- require residency for at least one of the parents, perhaps. There are a number of countries where being born there doesn't grant citizenship, which is why I'm not triple-national. What these women are doing is legal and I don't see a problem with it.

^This. Jus soli is an absurd way of confering citizenship. I don't get why the new world is so fond of it.

It's not an absurd way of conferring citizenship in a country that has and traditionally has had as much immigration as the US.

[Shira Bell]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/chinese-maternity-hotel-sparks-outrage-in-california-suburb/

I think this is absolutely ridiculous and should be outlawed. This is basically a cheaters' way to get their child US citizenship. This disgusts me.

What do you guys think?

What do i think that it's the worst source ever.
Here you have a little more complete report, that also includes the some of the legal aspect of the issue.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=8904714

BTW:

[Tekania]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/02/chinese-maternity-hotel-sparks-outrage-in-california-suburb/

I think this is absolutely ridiculous and should be outlawed. This is basically a cheaters' way to get their child US citizenship. This disgusts me.

What do you guys think?

I think, with the exception of the code violation related to the zoning of the premises, that this is perfectly fine. The women have come here legally.

[Wisconsin9]

Yeah...

Why exactly is this a problem?

[Bottle]

Frankly I think we should be glad there are still people who WANT to become American citizens. That won't be true for much longer, the way things are going.

[Tekania]

Yeah...

Why exactly is this a problem?

People apparently don't like them entering the country "illegally"..... Also, apparently they think "illegal" means "in a manner I don't like", as opposed to transgression of existing law.

[Wisconsin9]

Yeah...

Why exactly is this a problem?

People apparently don't like them entering the country "illegally"..... Also, apparently they think "illegal" means "in a manner I don't like", as opposed to transgression of existing law.

So in other words, it's not?

[Tekania]

People apparently don't like them entering the country "illegally"..... Also, apparently they think "illegal" means "in a manner I don't like", as opposed to transgression of existing law.

So in other words, it's not?

For us, no.... through they have problems.... and I'm not talking about Chinese women giving birth in the US either.

[Quintero]

Why does it matter if someone has their child in another country?
There shouldn't be all these laws regulating where people can and can not live.
If anything, we need to release the strict laws and replace them with more lenient laws or none at all.

[Onora]

To me this is a good thing for the US and China;

China: Overpopulated Industrial nation - less population growth, asset in solving problem.
America: Shows we are still a land for those escaping oppression. Save image, keep good face with other such people from foriegn lands. Boost on the international level. Will not specifiy the stratigic benifit. I'm all for it, America use to finance these types of Chinese imigrants, at least until the Clinton Administration, when we stoped doing so in a failed political move ment to improve our relations with China. This is not to say I do not understand the opposition, I might have aggreed with them under differnt situation, but this is the exeption in my mind.

[Minenotyours]

The system could be refined a bit, ya know instead of more illegal imigrants. Make it easier for them. But I swear to god if I start seeing chinese as much as I see spanish...

[Wind in the Willows]

I agree,
It's just another way for them to gain citizenship.

[Ethel mermania]

There are always going to be foreign nationals who will try any means they can to gain some form of illegal entry into another country. Rather than get outraged at the people who exploit loopholes, the blame should be focused squarely on poorly designed immigrations laws.

If I were born in an oppressive country, I can't say for certain I wouldn't try to leave any way I can. As for a child; well, how many parents would die for their children? If this is what these mothers are doing, then I can understand why they're doing it.

That doesn't make it right, but then this is a flaw in the system. People will do what they can to survive. Can't really blame people for being people.

Another classic "lacks context" outrage story by the media.

the constitutution is a fairly big loophole, and pretty difficult to close, because that is where US citizenship is defined.

i dont know the answer to the problem, but people who like illegal aliens, like MSNBC, are going to be in no rush to publicize or fix the issue.

[Wisconsin9]

There are always going to be foreign nationals who will try any means they can to gain some form of illegal entry into another country. Rather than get outraged at the people who exploit loopholes, the blame should be focused squarely on poorly designed immigrations laws.

If I were born in an oppressive country, I can't say for certain I wouldn't try to leave any way I can. As for a child; well, how many parents would die for their children? If this is what these mothers are doing, then I can understand why they're doing it.

That doesn't make it right, but then this is a flaw in the system. People will do what they can to survive. Can't really blame people for being people.

Another classic "lacks context" outrage story by the media.

the constitutution is a fairly big loophole, and pretty difficult to close, because that is where US citizenship is defined.

i dont know the answer to the problem, but people who like illegal aliens, like MSNBC, are going to be in no rush to publicize or fix the issue.

Never mind the fact that big businesses benefit more from illegal immigrants than anybody else.

[Greed and Death]

Non issue. you know why ?
Those who can get across the pacific have considerably more means.

Also this is not about the mother staying in most cases it is about giving the child options down the road.

exactly.

anyone who can go through the amazing amount of time, trouble and money to get to the US in time to have a baby is someone we WANT in this country. those children will make a great addition to the US when they are old enough to move here.

Well most don't end up moving here, most end up coming here for education.

What generally happens is if the kid does not get into a top Chinese university, they will go to a middle tier university here, then back to China where they get improved job prospects from being fluent in English.

Koreans also do it too. Really this birthing stuff only provides future income for American Universities.

[Greed and Death]

the constitutution is a fairly big loophole, and pretty difficult to close, because that is where US citizenship is defined.

i dont know the answer to the problem, but people who like illegal aliens, like MSNBC, are going to be in no rush to publicize or fix the issue.

Never mind the fact that big businesses benefit more from illegal immigrants than anybody else.

Yep pay them peanuts, and no need to by healthcare just drop them off at the emergency room if they get critically injured.

[Avenio]

Clearly we should round up and deport all of these Chinese communist illegal immigrants and build and a battery of anti-aircraft missile launchers to further red Chinese incursions via passenger airline. It's the only reasonable response.

[Ethel mermania]

Clearly we should round up and deport all of these Chinese communist illegal immigrants and build and a battery of anti-aircraft missile launchers to further red Chinese incursions via passenger airline. It's the only reasonable response.

have you ever flown an east asian airline? they are wonderful, only time i ever liked being on an airplane.

now if you wanna take out the delta flight from hong kong, i am on board with your plan.

[Ethel mermania]

Never mind the fact that big businesses benefit more from illegal immigrants than anybody else.

Yep pay them peanuts, and no need to by healthcare just drop them off at the emergency room if they get critically injured.

i know you fellows are kidding, but this is one of my primary objections to illegal aliens.

[Napkiraly]

Clearly we should round up and deport all of these Chinese communist illegal immigrants and build and a battery of anti-aircraft missile launchers to further red Chinese incursions via passenger airline. It's the only reasonable response.

Not hardcore enough. Make sure the SAM's are mininukes. Gotta make sure that the spores of the Chinese don't infect the patriotic soil of 'Murica.

[Farnhamia]

Yep pay them peanuts, and no need to by healthcare just drop them off at the emergency room if they get critically injured.

i know you fellows are kidding, but this is one of my primary objections to illegal aliens.

You wouldn't mind if they all stayed healthy?

[Ifreann]

I'm not sure why anyone should care about this.