Rereumrari wrote:Get a job. /opinion.
You are aware, I hope, that in most if not all Western economies there are more unemployed people than jobs by a considerable margin?
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by Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:28 pm
Rereumrari wrote:Get a job. /opinion.

by Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:28 pm

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:30 pm
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:North Stradia wrote:You're the one who supports slavery i.e. slavery to the "common good". I don't give half a fuck about the rest of society. I do what is good for my own interests.
One is not free when one is obligated to subordinate his own desires, goals, and potential to the need to satisfy someone else in order to ensure access to the material requirements of survival.

by Grave_n_idle » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:30 pm
Uelvan wrote:Income inequality is a sign of a nation not only prospering but one with a meritocracy.
Uelvan wrote:By this I mean, you can get more power and influence if you work hard at becoming rich.

by Divair » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:31 pm
North Stradia wrote:Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
One is not free when one is obligated to subordinate his own desires, goals, and potential to the need to satisfy someone else in order to ensure access to the material requirements of survival.
Food is not a right.
Housing is not a right.
Medical care is not a right.

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:32 pm

by ALMF » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:34 pm

by Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:34 pm
North Stradia wrote:Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
One is not free when one is obligated to subordinate his own desires, goals, and potential to the need to satisfy someone else in order to ensure access to the material requirements of survival.
Food is not a right.
Housing is not a right.
Medical care is not a right.

by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:34 pm
North Stradia wrote:Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
One is not free when one is obligated to subordinate his own desires, goals, and potential to the need to satisfy someone else in order to ensure access to the material requirements of survival.
Food is not a right.
Housing is not a right.
Medical care is not a right.

by New Acardia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:34 pm
by Uelvan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Uelvan wrote:
Because everyone, who ever got money, ever, is a lying and thieving asshole. Way over generalizing there.
Anyone who possesses in excess of the social mean is, yes.People who on top got there on work.
Absolutely; it takes a lot of work to set up schemes to lie, cheat, and steal. I don't deny that at all.
The question is, is it the sort of work that is socially beneficial or not? Is it the sort of work that is compatible with a free society or not?Work hard your whole life, and you'll see success.
Again, depends on what kind of work. Dishonest work, absolutely. Honest work, not at all.

by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm
Hippostania wrote:Income inequality is good, because people are not equal. Equality of opportunity is okay, but equality of outcome is a horrible idea. Any attempt by the state to balance income inequalities is immoral and should be discouraged.

by Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm
New acardia wrote:It is a by product of a healthy economy and society.

by CVT Temp » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:35 pm
North Stradia wrote:Taxation is theft.
I should not be forced to subjugate myself to the bottom feeders of society who are too incompetent to get by on their own.

by New Acardia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm

by Of the Free Socialist Territories » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm
North Stradia wrote:This. Except that equality of opportunity is NOT okay. Equality before the law is the only equality I care about.

by Grave_n_idle » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm

by The Black Forrest » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm

by North Stradia » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:36 pm

by CVT Temp » Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:37 pm
North Stradia wrote:Except that equality of opportunity is NOT okay.
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