What is your opinion on Income Inequality?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Sports are second only to war in terms of how they let the Great Souled flourish.

Competition, Teamwork, Ambition. It's all there.

Meanwhile, outside of Sparta, what you're talking about is irrelevant to income equality.

How dare you, the work of the great souled are relevant everywhere. Besides someone else brought up sports.

[Zaras]

Y'know, Bug, it'd be really easier to reply if your quotes weren't screwy.

If you like the way your government works, then you are living in the right place.

Or if you like the way government works it's because of all the people who've fought to make it work better and for everyone. Geography hasn't that much to do with it.

Right wing propaganda?

Yuppers.

I didn't see anywhere on my tax statement where I could opt out of supporting well people that won't work

They're an insignificant minority.

I don't "generalize" anything about poor people

Your posts say otherwise.

even though I don't have a clue what ebul is.

A misspelling of evil. You should know this if you've been on the Internets.

Nothing wrong with being poor, and there is a difference in being poor and being professionally on the dole!

Namely, that the latter is illegal and it's already being treated as a crime by the government, so I don't see your point.

I can't speak for Canada, just for what I see in the projects and on the rez.

Maybe don't generalise the projects and reservations to an entire country then? Generalisations born of ignorance are the worst.

One is too many if you can't support it, so I don't think that's a legend.

I assumed you were talking about people who supposedly had too many kids to get more welfare or some shit.

Yeah, one is too much if you can't support it, but you have to look at the loathsome residue of fundamentalism and attacks on birth control and attempts to improve sexual education in the USA to get the answer to that.

It works out to be the same.

You don't have a clue how it works if you think that.

If you don't pay, they'll take everything you have and imprison you.

And? If you're comparing this to a criminal operation, you're ludicrous. Taxes are a part of the social contract. You break the social contract, you're being punished for it.

If you don't pay property taxes there, they'll take your property after you die if your heirs don't pay them. Here, they'll put you in the street after less than 3 years.

How the hell does this have to do with anything, and do you even know how property taxes work in the UK?

Thank you!

Not a compliment, genius.

I do hold someone that tries to a different standard than someone that doesn't.

>implying people who are unemployed don't try

What a sick and immoral way of looking at one's fellow humans. Pretending they're all lazy failures.

If you're able to work and are looking for it, then fine, I'm glad to help. If you're unable to work, fine, I'm glad to help. If you're just too sorry and expect to be carried you can kiss my red ass!

Quit randwanking, it makes you look sillier than you already do.

I don't and won't have empathy for ticks.

>comparing humans to parasites

Yeah, you definitely don't have any empathy. Grow one already, goddamnit.

A tick is someone that can work, but won't and expects society to take care of them.

Translated into English: something that exists in the fevered imagination of deluded righties.

If you can't make it on one job, then get two. I have to. Are you somehow better, more deserving than I?

I'm not as callous or sociopathic, so yes, I am better than you. I don't have sick beliefs that can be summed up with the chorus of the Dead Kennedys' "Kill the Poor".

And I'm not blind enough to reality to advocate two jobs as a solution to anything. That's a refusal to notice the cause for the symptoms right there.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Meanwhile, outside of Sparta, what you're talking about is irrelevant to income equality.

How dare you, the work of the great souled are relevant everywhere.

NSG's rules disagree with you.

Besides someone else brought up sports.

As a point about the absurdity of income equality where firemen, doctors and other life-saving individuals are paid less than people who throw balls around. Not really relevant to the Great-Souled.

[Zaras]

How dare you, the work of the great souled are relevant everywhere.

No, they're only relevant in your Scilon brain.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

As a point about the absurdity of income equality where firemen, doctors and other life-saving individuals are paid less than people who throw balls around. Not really relevant to the Great-Souled.

It is.
The role played by sportsmen helps drive a nation towards greatness by reminding them of the values of competitiveness and ambition. Thats what human society is all about. Thus it's relevant because they deserve their high salaries.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

As a point about the absurdity of income equality where firemen, doctors and other life-saving individuals are paid less than people who throw balls around. Not really relevant to the Great-Souled.

It is.
The role played by sportsmen helps drive a nation towards greatness by reminding them of the values of competitiveness and ambition. That's what human society is all about. Thus it's relevant because they deserve their high salaries.

Doctors and firemen stop people dying, that's more useful and greater than kicking a ball about and reminding people of competitive values, and therefore at the very least the income gap should be less.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

As a point about the absurdity of income equality where firemen, doctors and other life-saving individuals are paid less than people who throw balls around. Not really relevant to the Great-Souled.

It is.
The role played by sportsmen helps drive a nation towards greatness by reminding them of the values of competitiveness and ambition. Thats what human society is all about. Thus it's relevant because they deserve their high salaries.

I suppose investment bankers remind us of the value of greed and manipulation?

[Greater Nilfgaard]

It is.
The role played by sportsmen helps drive a nation towards greatness by reminding them of the values of competitiveness and ambition. That's what human society is all about. Thus it's relevant because they deserve their high salaries.

Doctors and firemen stop people dying, that's more useful and greater than kicking a ball about and reminding people of competitive values, and therefore at the very least the income gap should be less.

Fine. I concede (on this one point about sports)

[Zaras]

Doctors and firemen stop people dying, that's more useful and greater than kicking a ball about and reminding people of competitive values, and therefore at the very least the income gap should be less.

Fine. I concede (on this one point about sports)

Good start. Now admit your entire plan and obsession with souls is stupid.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Fine. I concede (on this one point about sports)

Good start. Now admit your entire plan and obsession with souls is stupid.

Never. My plan is brilliant. My only concession is that firemen and doctors prove more beneficial to society then Basketball players.

[Zaras]

Never. My plan is brilliant.

Your plan is bullshit and your duckspeaking doesn't change that.

[Bug Out]

Y'know, Bug, it'd be really easier to reply if your quotes weren't screwy. I told you I didn't know how. I highlighted it then hit the quote button at the top of the box. That's what I got.

If you like the way your government works, then you are living in the right place.

Or if you like the way government works it's because of all the people who've fought to make it work better and for everyone. Geography hasn't that much to do with it. Sure it does as some are more socialist, some are communist, some totalitarian, ect. depending on what the people were used to. If they were used to being controlled, they will continue to fight for some form of controlled government.

Right wing propaganda?

Yuppers.

I didn't see anywhere on my tax statement where I could opt out of supporting well people that won't work

They're an insignificant minority. Maybe in Canada, not here.

I don't "generalize" anything about poor people

Your posts say otherwise.

even though I don't have a clue what ebul is.

A misspelling of evil. You should know this if you've been on the Internets. I don't spend a lot of time on chat. I don't type well or fast. Uncle Arthur moved into my fingers and made it worse.

Nothing wrong with being poor, and there is a difference in being poor and being professionally on the dole!

Namely, that the latter is illegal and it's already being treated as a crime by the government, so I don't see your point. Maybe where you are. You keep telling me not to use local truths to reflect national. You must be using Canada to quote for US. It's illegal here too, but I've never heard of it being enforced, and I would have heard!

I can't speak for Canada, just for what I see in the projects and on the rez.

Maybe don't generalise the projects and reservations to an entire country then? Generalisations born of ignorance are the worst. This is where the most poor are! There are other places, but not with the numbers that are anywhere near these.

One is too many if you can't support it, so I don't think that's a legend.

I assumed you were talking about people who supposedly had too many kids to get more welfare or some shit.

Yeah, one is too much if you can't support it, but you have to look at the loathsome residue of fundamentalism and attacks on birth control and attempts to improve sexual education in the USA to get the answer to that. Neither one has any effect on poor having children they can afford. They all go to the health dept where birth control of all types are and have been free and almost without questions for 40 years. There are pamphlets, posters, damn near directions everywhere, but they don't care.

It works out to be the same.

You don't have a clue how it works if you think that.

If you don't pay, they'll take everything you have and imprison you.

And? If you're comparing this to a criminal operation, you're ludicrous. Taxes are a part of the social contract. You break the social contract, you're being punished for it.

If you don't pay property taxes there, they'll take your property after you die if your heirs don't pay them. Here, they'll put you in the street after less than 3 years.

How the hell does this have to do with anything, and do you even know how property taxes work in the UK? I spent some time there and in the rest of Europe. Unless everyone I spoke to lied, yeah. Of course I have had a stroke since then. some things in the past are scrambled sometimes.

Thank you!

Not a compliment, genius. Neither was that.

I do hold someone that tries to a different standard than someone that doesn't.

>implying people who are unemployed don't try See next line.

What a sick and immoral way of looking at one's fellow humans. Pretending they're all lazy failures. Not pretending a thing. Either you are independently wealthy, work, are only temporarily unemployed as you try and find another job, are temporarily hurt and can't work, old, or disabled. Can you think of another reason to be on the dole other than lazy?

If you're able to work and are looking for it, then fine, I'm glad to help. If you're unable to work, fine, I'm glad to help. If you're just too sorry and expect to be carried you can kiss my red ass!

Quit randwanking, it makes you look sillier than you already do. Silly? In your eyes? That's a compliment.

I don't and won't have empathy for ticks.

>comparing humans to parasites No not comparing, some are parasites.

Yeah, you definitely don't have any empathy. Grow one already, goddamnit.

A tick is someone that can work, but won't and expects society to take care of them.

Translated into English: something that exists in the fevered imagination of deluded righties. You are so full of shit! You have no idea just like most lefties. I can take you and sit you in the living room of hundreds within 25 miles of me.

If you can't make it on one job, then get two. I have to. Are you somehow better, more deserving than I?

I'm not as callous or sociopathic, so yes, I am better than you. I don't have sick beliefs that can be summed up with the chorus of the Dead Kennedys' "Kill the Poor". You seem not to be able to be callous as you seem to be reliant on a teet of someone or something to keep you, at least at the moment. You did say you had no income, correct? I don't advocate killing anyone.

And I'm not blind enough to reality to advocate two jobs as a solution to anything. That's a refusal to notice the cause for the symptoms right there.

Of course you don't advocate having two jobs, you just want someone else to so they can give so you don't have to have one. Don't take that personally as the you is implied to a group. I don't know your reasons for not working, so I won't pretend to attach an opinion.
You can't understand why people don't want to support other people that do nothing and I can't understand why anyone would want anyone else to support them. That's the fundamental difference between us. You feel entitled to a good life because you exist. I feel we're only entitled to the opportunity for a good life. It is what you make it, not what I can make it for you.

[Vitaphone Racing]

Its fun for people to watch. Leading their thoughts away from their problems at the time they are watching it. Which is kinda the point of things like that.
However, its really overrated.

I understand that. I'm not advocating that we ban sports just that we start to put it in perspective.

It's a game, and like any other game from Monopoly to Chutes and Ladders it's a good fun distraction.

But that shouldn't mean that the players get millions in contracts or be regarded as heroes.
Firefighters are heroes, doctors are heroes, soldiers are heroes.
Derek Jeter is NOT a hero. Neither is Ron Artest or Kobe Bryant.

I don't view all soldiers, doctors or firefighters as heroes. You don't become a hero because of your profession.

I have no trouble with a sports player taking home millions each year for doing nothing if somebody wants to pay them that much. Doctors, firefighters and soldiers are mostly on the government payroll, athletes take money indirectly from the private sector.

idolizing manliness and creating all sorts of body image issues for people

If people want to base their desired body and attitude off a sports player then that's their business. Everybody says that society encourages girls to be skinny and boys to be manly but I don't see society doing this on the whole.

[Zaras]

Bug, seriously, learn how the quotetags work.

Sure it does as some are more socialist, some are communist, some totalitarian, ect. depending on what the people were used to. If they were used to being controlled, they will continue to fight for some form of controlled government.

"Controlled". Typical libertarianspeak.

Maybe in Canada, not here.

Source this or else you're pulling shit out of your ass. People who fraud welfare are a minority in any country.

I don't spend a lot of time on chat. I don't type well or fast. Uncle Arthur moved into my fingers and made it worse.

You should report him to the police then.

Maybe where you are.

Everywhere.

It's illegal here too, but I've never heard of it being enforced, and I would have heard!

It's not my fault you're too damn lazy to do research.

This is where the most poor are! There are other places, but not with the numbers that are anywhere near these.

Stop and ask yourself why reservations are the poorest. And why projects.

It's not like a history of discrimination and marginalisation has anything to do with it. Nah, they're just lazy!

Neither one has any effect on poor having children they can afford.

If somebody has a kid they can't afford because their crazy parents made them think abortion is evil, then yes, it has an effect.

They all go to the health dept where birth control of all types are and have been free and almost without questions for 40 years.

The same departments that get picketed and attacked by idiot fundamentalist cunts?

I spent some time there and in the rest of Europe.

Your knowledge of Europe is still kinda lacking.

Not pretending a thing.

Yes, pretending.

Can you think of another reason to be on the dole other than lazy?

There are plenty of reasons to be on the dole when you've fallen on hard times. But you don't care because you want all poor people to die.

Silly? In your eyes? That's a compliment.

Thanks for reinforcing my point about your stupid worldview.

No not comparing, some are parasites.

Dehumanisation is fun, eh? Let's herd 'em all into camps too!

You are so full of shit!

Quit projecting.

You have no idea just like most lefties.

Quit projecting.

I can take you and sit you in the living room of hundreds within 25 miles of me.

Going ITG really means you don't have an argument.

You seem not to be able to be callous as you seem to be reliant on a teet of someone or something to keep you, at least at the moment. You did say you had no income, correct? I don't advocate killing anyone.

How about you not try to mindread me, because you always fail?

Of course you don't advocate having two jobs, you just want someone else to so they can give so you don't have to have one.

What the fuck did I just say? Shut up with the idiotic attempts to guess my thinking, because you can't.

Don't take that personally as the you is implied to a group.

Group generalisations are a logical fallacy. Hence, your so-called "argument" is shit.

I don't know your reasons for not working, so I won't pretend to attach an opinion.

And yet you said earlier that I'm happy to rely on other people when that's not the case? WTF? Hypocrisy, much?

You can't understand why people don't want to support other people that do nothing and I can't understand why anyone would want anyone else to support them.

You can't understand that poor people and people who have hard luck in their lives are people too, and that the idea that "they do nothing" is a myth spread by right-wing fuckers to get other people to support attacks on social services.

You feel entitled to a good life because you exist.

Wrong. Stop fucking trying to tell me what I think when I already know what I think.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Never. My plan is brilliant.

Your plan is bullshit and your duckspeaking doesn't change that.

Duckspeak? Funny you should use a word from Newspeak. Because I do actually plan on implementing something similar.

[Zaras]

Duckspeak? Funny you should use a word from Newspeak. Because I do actually plan on implementing something similar.

We really don't need any more proof of how insane your beliefs are. We have enough already.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Duckspeak? Funny you should use a word from Newspeak. Because I do actually plan on implementing something similar.

We really don't need any more proof of how insane your beliefs are. We have enough already.

Lies. My ideology is doubleplusgood. Don't perpetuate thoughtcrime.

Back on topic.

Income inequality should vary based on different regions of the globe. Some will be libertarian free market areas others will be social democratic, communist and anarchist zones.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

We really don't need any more proof of how insane your beliefs are. We have enough already.

Lies. My ideology is doubleplusgood. Don't perpetuate thoughtcrime.

Back on topic.

Income inequality should vary based on different regions of the globe. Some will be libertarian free market areas others will be social democratic, communist and anarchist zones.

Why?

[Zaras]

Lies. My ideology is doubleplusgood. Don't perpetuate thoughtcrime.

Back on topic.

Income inequality should vary based on different regions of the globe. Some will be libertarian free market areas others will be social democratic, communist and anarchist zones.

Why?

Because Nilfgaard's ideas are stupid.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Why?

Because Nilfgaard's ideas are stupid.

Because that way we can see once and for all which version is superior. Plus everyone can choose to live in whatever kind of society they want.

I'd argue that this is as democratic as you can get.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

Why?

Because Nilfgaard's ideas are stupid.

Oh.

[Zaras]

Because Nilfgaard's ideas are stupid.

Because that way we can see once and for all which version is superior. Plus everyone can choose to live in whatever kind of society they want.

I'd argue that this is as democratic as you can get.

You already know what I'm going to argue: this is as stupid as an idea can get.

[Bobbyland420]

My opinion is that it is an unfortunate yet unavoidable part of life.

[Greater Nilfgaard]

Because Nilfgaard's ideas are stupid.

Oh.

No. Look up. Read actual explianation. прочитай!

[Kemalist]

Cuban model should be taken as an example. They are doing pretty well in spite of the merciless embargoes and sanctions applied by the United States, even better than them.