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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:29 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Sure, once we stop seeing every single traffic stop in which a minority screams abuse, despite the dash cam showing the officer never touching them.

I really don't understand what this has to do with what I posted.


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Have you had run ins with the police?

A few brief interactions, yes. Why?

What it has to do with your post is that when all we see is one side of the story in the media, the constant barrage of people who feel they were "harmed" by the police without actually having been harmed by the police, it forms broad opinions. When we see a news story about someone doing their job well in a difficult position, everyone comes out of the works to shit on the story because "Well of course they did. That's their job."

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Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:29 pm

Where's the NSG'er who was always on here shouting, "AMERICAN POLICE STATE - ARE WE THERE YET?" with videos of alleged police misconduct?

He needs to see this.
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Postby Choronzon » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:30 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:Where's the NSG'er who was always on here shouting, "AMERICAN POLICE STATE - ARE WE THERE YET?" with videos of alleged police misconduct?

He needs to see this.

I'm not that person, but as someone with an equally low opinion of the police I can tell you that one instance of a cop not abusing his authority is hardly going to change my mind.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:36 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I really don't understand what this has to do with what I posted.



A few brief interactions, yes. Why?

What it has to do with your post is that when all we see is one side of the story in the media, the constant barrage of people who feel they were "harmed" by the police without actually having been harmed by the police, it forms broad opinions. When we see a news story about someone doing their job well in a difficult position, everyone comes out of the works to shit on the story because "Well of course they did. That's their job."

Yeah. Because that's the proper reaction to people being praised for just doing their job. Maybe a pat on the back from a supervisor would be appropriate, but why should the world at large care about this?

Hey, where's the people who get worked up over participation awards when you need them?

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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:45 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?


I stapled some stuff a few hours ago. Where's MY thread OBAMA?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:51 pm

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The Emerald Dawn wrote:What it has to do with your post is that when all we see is one side of the story in the media, the constant barrage of people who feel they were "harmed" by the police without actually having been harmed by the police, it forms broad opinions. When we see a news story about someone doing their job well in a difficult position, everyone comes out of the works to shit on the story because "Well of course they did. That's their job."

Yeah. Because that's the proper reaction to people being praised for just doing their job. Maybe a pat on the back from a supervisor would be appropriate, but why should the world at large care about this?

Hey, where's the people who get worked up over participation awards when you need them?

So do you go to threads where the media overreacts and creates a tempest in a teapot and defend the world at large there?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:56 pm

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Sdaeriji wrote:G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?


I stapled some stuff a few hours ago. Where's MY thread OBAMA?


it was stapled wrong, the staples were not uniform from the edge, and the papers did not lie evenly in the pile. i could never show that to a judge.

now take the staples out and redo it.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:58 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Yeah. Because that's the proper reaction to people being praised for just doing their job. Maybe a pat on the back from a supervisor would be appropriate, but why should the world at large care about this?

Hey, where's the people who get worked up over participation awards when you need them?

So do you go to threads where the media overreacts and creates a tempest in a teapot and defend the world at large there?

If it strikes my fancy, sure.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:00 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:G&D, yesterday I sent a FedEx package I was supposed to send, as it is part of my job. Why didn't you create a thread for me?


I stapled some stuff a few hours ago. Where's MY thread OBAMA?


Liar. Your assistant did that.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:05 pm

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Neo Art wrote:
I stapled some stuff a few hours ago. Where's MY thread OBAMA?


Liar. Your assistant did that.


OK, but, you know, I asked her to. That's something.

Actually I did have a "god damn it, Mary Jo, do you know where I put my staple remover, again?" moment this morning, which was met with "by the photocopier where you always do"
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:10 pm

Neo Art wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Liar. Your assistant did that.


OK, but, you know, I asked her to. That's something.

Actually I did have a "god damn it, Mary Jo, do you know where I put my staple remover, again?" moment this morning, which was met with "by the photocopier where you always do"

And poor Mary Jo languishes in obscurity, no awards or internet praise. She's the real hero here.

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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:10 pm

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Neo Art wrote:
OK, but, you know, I asked her to. That's something.

Actually I did have a "god damn it, Mary Jo, do you know where I put my staple remover, again?" moment this morning, which was met with "by the photocopier where you always do"

And poor Mary Jo languishes in obscurity, no awards or internet praise. She's the real hero here.


Fucking seriously, I'd be lost without that woman.
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Postby Western cuba » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:13 pm

People that tend to have a hatred towards cops are usually the ones wrongdoing and are the actual idiots. I had a friend complaining the other day about how stupid the police department was for arresting him for public indecency. My friends an idiot and apparently doesn't understand the concept of not attempting to pull your wang out outside a bar at 3 o'clock in the morning.

I know that story is a bit strange and half of my friends are a bunch of losers in case your wondering. However, cops don't want to actually see anybody suffer in pain or inflict. There not the white cop from Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle, (if you get my reference).

This has been on in the news a lot, but look at Larry DePrimo, the man who gave that homeless man a pair of boots without even knowing him. It may of been a little extreme, but it wasn't like DePrimo was living his life wonderfully either. I think I read in a yahoo article that the guy was living with his parents.

Overall, cops get a bad rap from people who don't know what there talking about.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
OK, but, you know, I asked her to. That's something.

Actually I did have a "god damn it, Mary Jo, do you know where I put my staple remover, again?" moment this morning, which was met with "by the photocopier where you always do"

And poor Mary Jo languishes in obscurity, no awards or internet praise. She's the real hero here.


Tsk Tsk envy doesn't suit you well.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:15 pm

Neo Art wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And poor Mary Jo languishes in obscurity, no awards or internet praise. She's the real hero here.


Fucking seriously, I'd be lost without that woman.


Wouldn't you just use one of the other ones you have locked in your basement?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Fucking seriously, I'd be lost without that woman.


Wouldn't you just use one of the other ones you have locked in your basement?


I rent, so....
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:21 pm

Western cuba wrote:People that tend to have a hatred towards cops are usually the ones wrongdoing and are the actual idiots. I had a friend complaining the other day about how stupid the police department was for arresting him for public indecency. My friends an idiot and apparently doesn't understand the concept of not attempting to pull your wang out outside a bar at 3 o'clock in the morning.

I know that story is a bit strange and half of my friends are a bunch of losers in case your wondering. However, cops don't want to actually see anybody suffer in pain or inflict. There not the white cop from Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle, (if you get my reference).

This has been on in the news a lot, but look at Larry DePrimo, the man who gave that homeless man a pair of boots without even knowing him. It may of been a little extreme, but it wasn't like DePrimo was living his life wonderfully either. I think I read in a yahoo article that the guy was living with his parents.

Overall, cops get a bad rap from people who don't know what there talking about.

Eh, there's also the examples of cops being real douchebags. Extreme (Rodney King, Seattle riots, introducing an unarmed man in his own home to 322 little lead friends, B&E on the wrong house shooting a servicemember dead because he thought it was a home invasion and went to defend his home). Less extreme (Traffic stop where the cop decides to take his bad day out by giving someone a ticket instead of a warning, pulling people over for DWB, tripping people while arresting them despite no need to do so.) Trust me, not all hate for police is unjustified.

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Postby Capitolinium » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:32 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
GWACA wrote: :eyebrow:
Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

abuse the power? what power do muslims have?


Total, in quite a few places.
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Postby Unified Republic of Carpania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:33 pm

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Unified Republic of Carpania wrote:
Gosh, if you really think that, then why didn't you vote for Romney since the liberals kept saying he was going to cut funds to the "pigs"? If someone really advocated that, wouldn't liberals jump for joy supporting them? :roll: As opposed to John Kerry. He'll let 'em taze you.


I want to start off by saying you don't know who the fuck I voted for. In fact, judging by your post count you probably don't know much about my politics or positions at all.

Secondly, the idea of privatized police forces (the rightest libertarian ideal) is about a thousand times more terrifying and open to abuse than the current system, and thirdly why would I vote for Republicans considering their stance on crime and authority?


God you're defensive. Since liberals don't like the police force anyways, why would they tout them when it's convenient to them to try to justify Socialism? Why would they get in faux outrage mode over allegedly cutting funding to the police department? You'd think they'd support that if that's what Romney really advocated. And how about this? John Kerry let the police taze some kid at one of his speeches. What's the matter, don't liberals hate stuff like that? They'd call him a Nazi if he were a Republican. Clinton had a mentally retarded black man executed when he was Governor of Arkansas and yet only Republicans like Governor Perry get called "bloodthirsty".

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:34 pm

Forsakia wrote:Who owns/runs the airport?

Albany county owns the airport.
It is ran by a semi private organization.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:35 pm

Unified Republic of Carpania wrote:
Choronzon wrote:
I want to start off by saying you don't know who the fuck I voted for. In fact, judging by your post count you probably don't know much about my politics or positions at all.

Secondly, the idea of privatized police forces (the rightest libertarian ideal) is about a thousand times more terrifying and open to abuse than the current system, and thirdly why would I vote for Republicans considering their stance on crime and authority?


God you're defensive. Since liberals don't like the police force anyways, why would they tout them when it's convenient to them to try to justify Socialism? Why would they get in faux outrage mode over allegedly cutting funding to the police department? You'd think they'd support that if that's what Romney really advocated. And how about this? John Kerry let the police taze some kid at one of his speeches. What's the matter, don't liberals hate stuff like that? They'd call him a Nazi if he were a Republican. Clinton had a mentally retarded black man executed when he was Governor of Arkansas and yet only Republicans like Governor Perry get called "bloodthirsty".


Who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you on about? Is it school vacation already?
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Postby Unified Republic of Carpania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:36 pm

Unified Republic of Carpania wrote:
Choronzon wrote:
I want to start off by saying you don't know who the fuck I voted for. In fact, judging by your post count you probably don't know much about my politics or positions at all.

Secondly, the idea of privatized police forces (the rightest libertarian ideal) is about a thousand times more terrifying and open to abuse than the current system, and thirdly why would I vote for Republicans considering their stance on crime and authority?


God you're defensive. Since liberals don't like the police force anyways, why would they tout them when it's convenient to them to try to justify Socialism? Why would they get in faux outrage mode over allegedly cutting funding to the police department? You'd think they'd support that if that's what Romney really advocated. And how about this? John Kerry let the police taze some kid at one of his speeches. What's the matter, don't liberals hate stuff like that? They'd call him a Nazi if he were a Republican. Clinton had a mentally retarded black man executed when he was Governor of Arkansas and yet only Republicans like Governor Perry get called "bloodthirsty".


It's your guy, Obama, who's locking people up. It's your guy, Obama, who's "the man". It's you guys and your media who are saying don't question authority now, never question their authority. You don't have a leg to stand on, Democrats love their authority and if you question it they accuse you of being a racist traitor.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:37 pm

Oh great, now he's fucking talking to himself.

Oh well, this one won't last.
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Postby Unified Republic of Carpania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:38 pm

Neo Art wrote:Oh great, now he's fucking talking to himself.

Oh well, this one won't last.

How is that relevant? I'm not talking to myself, I made another post. It's no big deal.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Fri Nov 30, 2012 2:39 pm

Unified Republic of Carpania wrote:
Unified Republic of Carpania wrote:
God you're defensive. Since liberals don't like the police force anyways, why would they tout them when it's convenient to them to try to justify Socialism? Why would they get in faux outrage mode over allegedly cutting funding to the police department? You'd think they'd support that if that's what Romney really advocated. And how about this? John Kerry let the police taze some kid at one of his speeches. What's the matter, don't liberals hate stuff like that? They'd call him a Nazi if he were a Republican. Clinton had a mentally retarded black man executed when he was Governor of Arkansas and yet only Republicans like Governor Perry get called "bloodthirsty".


It's your guy, Obama, who's locking people up. It's your guy, Obama, who's "the man". It's you guys and your media who are saying don't question authority now, never question their authority. You don't have a leg to stand on, Democrats love their authority and if you question it they accuse you of being a racist traitor.

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