Hats off to Deputy Sheriff Stan Lenic

[Ralkovia]

Do you not understand the similaritys? Inside of those instituions are hardworking people. The marjority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding the law of the land. There is a minority that abuses the power.

Inide of Islam there are hardoworking good people. The majority of the people are good people intent on doing good and upholding peace and civility. There is a minority that strap bombs to children and shoot civlians.

abuse the power? what power do muslims have?

the similarities don't go beyond "hey, this is a group! sort of.". even at the most basic level it falls apart. one is an identity and one is a bloody job, an official position. you can't self-identity as a police officer but oh i'm not a very observant police officer. it's completely and utterly absurd.

i guess you could argue there's one or two specific requirement for being a muslim, believe in god and read this book. whereas, to take the official job and position of a police officer...

and even then we live in a world where most people don't actually read the bible/qur'an and we get polls where a large portion of french catholics don't even believe in god. did i mention how completely and utterly absurd this was?

what power do muslims have?

Seriously.
You just said it yourself. Billions of people.

Hell, control of oil.

Large armies. Check.

etc. etc.

Oh wait I see the point you made.

Here let me help you.

A few Muslims blowing themselves up=a few Police acting like assholes.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Oh, neat. Reducing to absurdity.

No, see, what they are is human. They're prone to the same pressures from peer groups and supervisors that all humans are. Receiving praise from people reinforces their connection to those people. So if they receive praise from the people they protect, they'll feel more keenly the urge to protect them. It's called "Social Conditioning". You should look it up.

I don't think you understand what reduction to absurdity means.

Doing the thing you are paid to do, when dealing with no pressure is one thing. But you're saying that when this cop is dealing with pressure from someone who quite likely has a decent amount of pull with his supervisors it is the same as when he stops traffic to save someone about to be hit. You're making an absurd contrast.

[Pope Joan]

"He doesn't have to show you his ID"

I loved that. Kuddos to the Deputy.

If the nasty old white guy is their PR director, they need to replace him.

Yeah, it takes guts to stand up to a blustery old threatening white guy with a whiff of authority about him. It honestly does. Good for the cop.

Now, this is an era of cost cutting. An airport does not need PR, it is a monopoly. You have to go there if you want to fly to somewhere else. In NYC several airports compete, but not in Albany.

So just abolish the position. It's probably a political sinecure anyway.

[The Black Forrest]

while we are complimenting cops:

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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/times_sq_cop_heart_and_sole_26ZIKgJnNDtxuhX0fCclcO

from the post
he NYPD cop who spent his hard-earned cash on a frigid night to buy boots for a shivering homeless man recalled the encounter as “humbling.”

“It’s what I felt I had to do,” DePrimo said yesterday of the Nov. 14 encounter in Times Square. “I just looked down at this gentleman’s feet, and you could see the blisters . . . It was just so cold that I had to do something.”

Moved by the unidentified man’s suffering, DePrimo spent about $50 to buy boots and socks. He put them on the man’s feet himself.

“What sticks out in my mind is that he was just such a kind gentleman that I really had to help him,” DePrimo said. “I wanted to. It’s a very humbling experience.”

Indeed! Kudos to him as well.

It's interesting how people are incensed Lenic is getting praise for not following the orders of the nasty old guy and defending the rights of the two people.

[The Emerald Dawn]

while we are complimenting cops:

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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/times_sq_cop_heart_and_sole_26ZIKgJnNDtxuhX0fCclcO

from the post
he NYPD cop who spent his hard-earned cash on a frigid night to buy boots for a shivering homeless man recalled the encounter as “humbling.”

“It’s what I felt I had to do,” DePrimo said yesterday of the Nov. 14 encounter in Times Square. “I just looked down at this gentleman’s feet, and you could see the blisters . . . It was just so cold that I had to do something.”

Moved by the unidentified man’s suffering, DePrimo spent about $50 to buy boots and socks. He put them on the man’s feet himself.

“What sticks out in my mind is that he was just such a kind gentleman that I really had to help him,” DePrimo said. “I wanted to. It’s a very humbling experience.”

Indeed! Kudos to him as well.

It's interesting how people are incensed Lenic is getting praise for not following the orders of the nasty old guy and defending the rights of the two people.

Praise police? Psh. Fuck the pigs. They try to stop me from driving at 800 miles per hour in a school zone.

[Sdaeriji]

I don't think you understand what reduction to absurdity means.

Doing the thing you are paid to do, when dealing with no pressure is one thing. But you're saying that when this cop is dealing with pressure from someone who quite likely has a decent amount of pull with his supervisors it is the same as when he stops traffic to save someone about to be hit. You're making an absurd contrast.

This has literally nothing to do with what I said at all.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Doing the thing you are paid to do, when dealing with no pressure is one thing. But you're saying that when this cop is dealing with pressure from someone who quite likely has a decent amount of pull with his supervisors it is the same as when he stops traffic to save someone about to be hit. You're making an absurd contrast.

This has literally nothing to do with what I said at all.

Funny, your original statement had nothing to do with the situation we're discussing either. So, here we are.

[Ifreann]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

If you looked at the news link the deputy said just that he was just doing his job.....

I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

[The Black Forrest]

"He doesn't have to show you his ID"

I loved that. Kuddos to the Deputy.

If the nasty old white guy is their PR director, they need to replace him.

Yeah, it takes guts to stand up to a blustery old threatening white guy with a whiff of authority about him. It honestly does. Good for the cop.

Now, this is an era of cost cutting. An airport does not need PR, it is a monopoly. You have to go there if you want to fly to somewhere else. In NYC several airports compete, but not in Albany.

So just abolish the position. It's probably a political sinecure anyway.

You are probably right on the last bit. I know a few PR people; some own their own firms. They tend to be savvy about handling people especially in this age of instant video.

This guy probably doesn't even have a background in it. Just from his general attitude; he can't handle being told "no"

[The Emerald Dawn]

If you looked at the news link the deputy said just that he was just doing his job.....

I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

Sure, once we stop seeing every single traffic stop in which a minority screams abuse, despite the dash cam showing the officer never touching them.

[The Black Forrest]

If you looked at the news link the deputy said just that he was just doing his job.....

I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

Have you had run ins with the police?

[Sdaeriji]

This has literally nothing to do with what I said at all.

Funny, your original statement had nothing to do with the situation we're discussing either. So, here we are.

Stop lying.

[Choronzon]

I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

Sure, once we stop seeing every single traffic stop in which a minority screams abuse, despite the dash cam showing the officer never touching them.

Fucking uppity niggers amirite

[The Emerald Dawn]

Sure, once we stop seeing every single traffic stop in which a minority screams abuse, despite the dash cam showing the officer never touching them.

Fucking uppity niggers amirite

Sure, absolutely. I'm totes racist here.

Nothing at all about the sensationalizing of media in an age where we report first and confirm facts later.

[Ralkovia]

Fucking uppity niggers amirite

Sure, absolutely. I'm totes racist here.

Nothing at all about the sensationalizing of media in an age where we report first and confirm facts later.

Duke Lacross team comes to mind whenever anyone brings up whites being racists.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Sure, absolutely. I'm totes racist here.

Nothing at all about the sensationalizing of media in an age where we report first and confirm facts later.

Duke Lacross team comes to mind whenever anyone brings up whites being racists.

As does Rodney King. See, racism happens. But the media is no longer interested in reporting the news. They are only interested in grabbing your attention long enough to sell you shit.

[Phocidaea]

This is relaxing on two fronts. One, it reminds us that some police officers, at least, care about actually upholding the law, even when it's not beneficial to them to do so.

Two, it shows that the first amendment isn't dead. After what this country's been through, it's good to have some reassurance.

[Choronzon]

Sure, absolutely. I'm totes racist here.

Nothing at all about the sensationalizing of media in an age where we report first and confirm facts later.

Duke Lacross team comes to mind whenever anyone brings up whites being racists.

Because of one clusterfuck that means we can safely dismiss any accusations of racism against white people.

Yeah, there is nothing fucking stupid about that logic at all.

[Unified Republic of Carpania]

Police officers are good people? Oh you Don't say.

Cops aren't out to get you. Most are patriotic Americans and former soldiers. It's their job to stop trouble makers. If you're creating trouble then they will stop you. Sure you have the asshole cop every now and then, but don't you guys make the same argument about not judging all Muslims to be terrorists because a minority of them decide to strap bombs to children?

Any story you can find about a cop being a decent you human being I can match with a story about the police being nothing but a gang with a badge- corrupt thugs with the force of the state behind them.

Gosh, if you really think that, then why didn't you vote for Romney since the liberals kept saying he was going to cut funds to the "pigs"? If someone really advocated that, wouldn't liberals jump for joy supporting them? As opposed to John Kerry. He'll let 'em taze you.

[Choronzon]

Any story you can find about a cop being a decent you human being I can match with a story about the police being nothing but a gang with a badge- corrupt thugs with the force of the state behind them.

Gosh, if you really think that, then why didn't you vote for Romney since the liberals kept saying he was going to cut funds to the "pigs"? If someone really advocated that, wouldn't liberals jump for joy supporting them? As opposed to John Kerry. He'll let 'em taze you.

I want to start off by saying you don't know who the fuck I voted for. In fact, judging by your post count you probably don't know much about my politics or positions at all.

Secondly, the idea of privatized police forces (the rightest libertarian ideal) is about a thousand times more terrifying and open to abuse than the current system, and thirdly why would I vote for Republicans considering their stance on crime and authority?

[Ralkovia]

Duke Lacross team comes to mind whenever anyone brings up whites being racists.

Because of one clusterfuck that means we can safely dismiss any accusations of racism against white people.

Yeah, there is nothing fucking stupid about that logic at all.

Institutional Racism is pretty much dead.

We are all equal before the law.

Get over it. You trying to change the minds of all white bigots, just creates more problems then letting it die out on its own.

No legislation, absolutely no legislation, has changed the opinion of White People on Jews. It has been religion, cultural acceptance, and assimilation. And still bigots slip through the cracks.

Secondly, let's not pretend for a second that any other race isn't just as racists as we are. If you do, let's take a trip to Zimbabwe or China or the Middle East. I have some things to show you.

[Forsakia]

Who owns/runs the airport?

[Choronzon]

Because of one clusterfuck that means we can safely dismiss any accusations of racism against white people.

Yeah, there is nothing fucking stupid about that logic at all.

Institutional Racism is pretty much dead.

This is my first clue that you have no idea what you're talking about.

We are all equal before the law.

In theory.

Get over it. You trying to change the minds of all white bigots, just creates more problems then letting it die out on its own.


No legislation, absolutely no legislation, has changed the opinion of White People on Jews. It has been religion, cultural acceptance, and assimilation. And still bigots slip through the cracks.

Cool bro. I never said otherwise. But then again, its you, and you're not above making up what other posters have said. So I'm not super surprised.

Secondly, let's not pretend for a second that any other race isn't just as racists as we are. If you do, let's take a trip to Zimbabwe or China or the Middle East. I have some things to show you.

Cool bro. I never said otherwise. But then again, its you, and you're not above making up what other posters have said. So I'm not super surprised.

EDIT: Also nothing you said in any way lessens the utter stupidity inherent in just dismissing accusations of racism against white people because of one really embarrassing clusterfuck, nor is "Bigots will be bigots bro!" a particularly compelling argument.

[Greed and Death]

So we're lauding cops for being professional and not arresting people who don't need arresting? Says a lot.

If you looked at the news link the deputy said just that he was just doing his job.....

I find him to be somewhat modest, it is more than just a lack of abuse on his part it is perfectly doing his job to the T.

[Ifreann]

I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

Sure, once we stop seeing every single traffic stop in which a minority screams abuse, despite the dash cam showing the officer never touching them.

I really don't understand what this has to do with what I posted.

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I'm sure he was. But when he just did his job, it's news. When almost anyone else in the world just does their job, no one cares. Will we have a thread tomorrow about how the journalist who wrote this story reported the facts and didn't sex the story up?

Have you had run ins with the police?

A few brief interactions, yes. Why?