Why I think religion is inherently bad. [POLL ADDED]

[Ostroeuropa]

Uh, no? You see Buddhists, Sikhs, and Muslims killed for their faith in those exact same countries. Here in the States, you can read of cases of religiously-motivated murder (recall the Sikhs murdered in Wisconsin). That is a baseless claim.

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Egypt, where being the wrong type of muslim can get you in just as much, if not more, trouble than being a christian.
And in the west, christians get to be not-persecuted, but muslims still get persecuted.
And as we pointed out, the source your source uses is incredibly flawed.

[Mavorpen]

Uh, no? You see Buddhists, Sikhs, and Muslims killed for their faith in those exact same countries. Here in the States, you can read of cases of religiously-motivated murder (recall the Sikhs murdered in Wisconsin). That is a baseless claim.

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Calling your claim out for its bullshit is intolerance? Hilarious.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Uh, no? You see Buddhists, Sikhs, and Muslims killed for their faith in those exact same countries. Here in the States, you can read of cases of religiously-motivated murder (recall the Sikhs murdered in Wisconsin). That is a baseless claim.

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Guess what? Christians are the largest religious group in the world. Is it really a surprise that in countries where people not of a certain religion are persecuted, members of the largest religious group in the world have the largest number of casualties?

[Genivaria]

http://www.christianpost.com/news/christians-most-persecuted-religious-group-in-the-world-says-expert-74332/

Maybe?

We'll see.

The only place right now that i really see a lot of persecution on christians is on the internet, where atheists are at the peak of their power.

[Vortropolis]

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Egypt, where being the wrong type of muslim can get you in just as much, if not more, trouble than being a christian.
And in the west, christians get to be not-persecuted, but muslims still get persecuted.
And as we pointed out, the source your source uses is incredibly flawed.

Bronys got a point

[Vortropolis]

The only place right now that i really see a lot of persecution on christians is on the internet, where atheists are at the peak of their power.

[Sentinel XV]

Uh, no? You see Buddhists, Sikhs, and Muslims killed for their faith in those exact same countries. Here in the States, you can read of cases of religiously-motivated murder (recall the Sikhs murdered in Wisconsin). That is a baseless claim.

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Oh? Because when looking at that post I quoted, it says that "Christians are the ONLY religions group that still get killed for their faith".

Christians are the only religious group that still get killed for their faith. In Muslim countries, they are the minority.

Emphasis on the ONLY. And that's simply not true on all counts. There are significantly more Muslims, Jews, and other religious groups oppressed and killed for their faith than Christians. Just because they are a large group does not mean they are inherently oppressed, even when they are the minority in some areas.

And I'm intolerant? Please tell me how? I'm simply presenting arguments, I haven't once said that I did not tolerate your -- or anyone else's -- religion.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Can name a few places where I have seen real persecution of Christians firsthand.

1) Saudi Arabia - Bibles banned, church meetings, banned. Went to the latter anyway and they didn't give a monkey's unless a Saudi national specifically complained. Expats often kept non-Arabic Bibles.

2) Burma - self explanatory, but they persecute nearly everybody (including Muslims) there anyway.

I'm glad to see that people are beginning to take the British view that we should insist on calling it Burma instead of Myanmar.
(Seriously, i'm glad. the dictators just renamed the country for ideological reasons, we shouldn't appease them by using that name.)

It was 'Burma' when I first visited, and that's what it still says on my desk globe. This 'Myanmar' shit will never catch on. I went back in '04 and was shadowed by a plainclothes policeman, saw an American tourist get dragged off by soldiers at the airport, and watched the leaders of the country meet with walking gangster cliches who openly flaunted their suitcases stuffed with foreign cash.

It was even worse than the USSR in '87.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Sometimes I wish a Hindu idiot would come in. Just so we could get variety in our bullshit.

[Ordya]

I didn't say others weren't murdered, there are just almost always more christians than others.

Sourced:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9640825/Christians-persecuted-throughout-the-world.html

Your intolerance disgusts me.

Calling your claim out for its bullshit is intolerance? Hilarious.

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Calling your claim out for its bullshit is intolerance? Hilarious.

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

When did he say this?

[Mavorpen]

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

Now quote me where I say Christians aren't persecuted. I'll be waiting.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Calling your claim out for its bullshit is intolerance? Hilarious.

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

No one here said that christians aren't dying or that they deserve to die. We've just contested your claims that christians are the only ones dying.

[Ostroeuropa]

Calling your claim out for its bullshit is intolerance? Hilarious.

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

Where did we do that?
We simply called you out on what your claim was.
We never said "Christians are not persecuted" nor did we say "It's ok because they are christian."
We said that your claim of "Christians are teh MOST persecuted" and "ONLY christians get killed for their faith" was utter bullshit. which it is.
And likewise, Atheists are persecuted too.

[Sentinel XV]

Also, on the topic of your source, it's a terribly written piece. It begs the question like a champ, saying "what if these people were Christians, who were committing these crimes against Muslims". That is a fallacy tried and true: a cheap shot. As pointed out above (and I'm not condoning anything that these people do to other religious sects), when you are one of the largest religious groups in the world, it is inevitable that your losses will be higher than smaller groups. And, you have a higher likelihood of being caught in the metaphorical crossfire of religious intolerance. It's not that there are more groups hostile to Christians, it's that there are more Christians in areas where people are intolerant to everyone except their own.

[Ordya]

Your intolerance stems from the your subconscious bias that because they are christians, their persecution is somehow a lie, or they have it coming. You're completely ignoring that the fact innocent people are being slaughtered with the excuse of, "they're christian."

No one here said that christians aren't dying or that they deserve to die. We've just contested your claims that christians are the only ones dying.

I meant to say one of. I thought I did.

[Valkmar]

It's a response to the "Well stalin was an atheist!!"
These people were RELIGIOUS and killed.
They may not have killed BECAUSE of religion. That's our point.
Stalin didn't kill BECAUSE he was an atheist, but plenty of people have killed BECAUSE they are religious.
If they say "WELL THAT DOESNT MATTER!"
Then we can say "Ok then, your score is 809 million if we're not counting motivations."

I think the OP was claiming that 809 million were killed by religious people, he doesn't approve of religion and he was arguing that religious people were the most prolific killers in history. But I agree with you that many of these killings are really religious groups getting victimized or persecuted. So yeah, it sucks to be criticized and attacked because you are getting gassed or executed by atheists.

1. This really gets me quite angry that you only say atheists do this, do you forget the crusades or did that just slip your small insignificant mind?

2. On a side not, your nations name is Obamacult, which instantly discredits any claims you make.

[Suidwes-Afrika]

Also, on the topic of your source, it's a terribly written piece. It begs the question like a champ, saying "what if these people were Christians, who were committing these crimes against Muslims". That is a fallacy tried and true: a cheap shot. As pointed out above (and I'm not condoning anything that these people do to other religious sects), when you are one of the largest religious groups in the world, it is inevitable that your losses will be higher than smaller groups. And, you have a higher likelihood of being caught in the metaphorical crossfire of religious intolerance. It's not that there are more groups hostile to Christians, it's that there are more Christians in areas where people are intolerant to everyone except their own.

Media ignorance, media bias....what else is new?

[Ostroeuropa]

No one here said that christians aren't dying or that they deserve to die. We've just contested your claims that christians are the only ones dying.

I meant to say one of. I thought I did.

What were you prattling on about subconsciouses again?
Maybe you should think carefully about what your religion is doing to your world view.

[Norstal]

Source? I truly find this hard to believe. Perhaps in certain regions, but I hardly doubt in the world.

Christians are the only religious group that still get killed for their faith. In Muslim countries, they are the minority.

Oh that's such a misleading way to look at things.

By that measure, black people are the most killed minority just because they're a minority in the U.S.

[Menassa]

Jesus never said that.

> Jesus said nothing about women's' rights, slavery, and many other controversial topics condoned in the Bible
>> But what about the Bible's condemnation of the gays?
> It's in the Bible.
>> But Jesus said nothing of it.

Doesn't Jesus also by his own word abolish may of the Laws in the Old Testament..... by that logic it wouldn't apply now.

[Sentinel XV]

Also, on the topic of your source, it's a terribly written piece. It begs the question like a champ, saying "what if these people were Christians, who were committing these crimes against Muslims". That is a fallacy tried and true: a cheap shot. As pointed out above (and I'm not condoning anything that these people do to other religious sects), when you are one of the largest religious groups in the world, it is inevitable that your losses will be higher than smaller groups. And, you have a higher likelihood of being caught in the metaphorical crossfire of religious intolerance. It's not that there are more groups hostile to Christians, it's that there are more Christians in areas where people are intolerant to everyone except their own.

Media ignorance, media bias....what else is new?

Just pointing it out.

[Menassa]

Also, on the topic of your source, it's a terribly written piece. It begs the question like a champ, saying "what if these people were Christians, who were committing these crimes against Muslims". That is a fallacy tried and true: a cheap shot. As pointed out above (and I'm not condoning anything that these people do to other religious sects), when you are one of the largest religious groups in the world, it is inevitable that your losses will be higher than smaller groups. And, you have a higher likelihood of being caught in the metaphorical crossfire of religious intolerance. It's not that there are more groups hostile to Christians, it's that there are more Christians in areas where people are intolerant to everyone except their own.

Media ignorance, media bias....what else is new?

Stupid Jewspapers.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Christians are the only religious group that still get killed for their faith. In Muslim countries, they are the minority.

Oh that's such a misleading way to look at things.

By that measure, black people are the most killed minority just because they're a minority in the U.S.

You just don't understand Christian persecution, ex-Christian Indonesian.

[Ordya]

I meant to say one of. I thought I did.

What were you prattling on about subconsciouses again?
Maybe you should think carefully about what your religion is doing to your world view.

I harbor no bias. I accept that all groups get persecuted, but to right off everything I say as bias simply because I do not follow your ideology is a much larger bias.