The war on Christmas

[Farnhamia]

Arrgghh ...

Also, 'twas Theosidus I who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, not Constantine. Double shame.

Theodosius made it illegal to not be Christian, yes. Constantine proclaimed religious tolerance throughout the Empire, ending the persecutions, but it was fairly clear what the "official" religion was.

[Abatael]

It says, "Terms with an etymological equivalent," quite clearly. That means, a term, that is etymologically equivalent, not necessarily Yule.

Are you kidding me? We've JUST had a Nordic in this thread explain that yes, it is Yule.

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Meh. Christmas/Yule here has been Christianized due to obvious reasons.

Also, he wrote, "Christmas/Yule..."

'/' means "or," so, "Christmas OR Yule...."

[Forster Keys]

Why does the US call it holiday and stuff? We call it Christmas in Aus and we're socialist atheist demon-worshippers.

[Immoren]

Joulu is Yule/Christmas in Finnish.

So, does Yule mean Christmas to you?

I just put them there because Joulu is translated both as Yule and Christmas.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Also, 'twas Theosidus I who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, not Constantine. Double shame.

Theodosius made it illegal to not be Christian, yes. Constantine proclaimed religious tolerance throughout the Empire, ending the persecutions, but it was fairly clear what the "official" religion was.

I concede to your superior knowledge.

[Mavorpen]

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Meh. Christmas/Yule here has been Christianized due to obvious reasons.

Fantastic job moving the goal posts.

Also, where did I say that Yule in the Nordic countries isn't used as the equivalent of Christmas?

Seriously, quote me or bugger off with erecting straw men every post you make concerning me.

[Farnhamia]

Are you kidding me? We've JUST had a Nordic in this thread explain that yes, it is Yule.

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Meh. Christmas/Yule here has been Christianized due to obvious reasons.

I've never liked Immoren. *sends his address to the Guards*

[Camelza]

Are you kidding me? We've JUST had a Nordic in this thread explain that yes, it is Yule.

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Meh. Christmas/Yule here has been Christianized due to obvious reasons.

yes but he also added..

..but some there are of course still some practises that predate Christianity and haven't much changed.

[Immoren]

Are you kidding me? We've JUST had a Nordic in this thread explain that yes, it is Yule.

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Meh. Christmas/Yule here has been Christianized due to obvious reasons.

Christiniazed=/=Christian

[Abatael]

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Fantastic job moving the goal posts.

Also, where did I say that Yule in the Nordic countries isn't used as the equivalent of Christmas?

Seriously, quote me or bugger off with erecting straw men every post you make concerning me.

So, do you agree that Yule is the equivalent of Christmas?

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

yes but he also added..

..but some there are of course still some practises that predate Christianity and haven't much changed.

Yes, but I don't see how that has to do with this. It says some people still practice paganism.

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

Christiniazed=/=Christian

To "Christianize" means to make Christian.

[Mavorpen]

So, do you agree that Yule is the equivalent of Christmas?

No, since, again:

Terms with an etymological equivalent to Yule are used in the Nordic countries for the Christian Christmas (with its religious rites), but also for other holidays of the season. Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas. Customs such as the Yule log, Yule goat, Yule boar, Yule singing, and others stem from Yule. A number of Neopagans have introduced their own rites.

Yule is used to refer to Christmas and several other holidays.

[Immoren]

He just said Yule is Christian.

See? Right here:

I've never liked Immoren. *sends his address to the Guards*

Dear Farn. Don't you ever learn your prison can't hold me.

[Galloism]

Don't you ever learn your prison can't hold me.

Oh how many times I've said those words.

[Abatael]

So, do you agree that Yule is the equivalent of Christmas?

No, since, again:

Terms with an etymological equivalent to Yule are used in the Nordic countries for the Christian Christmas (with its religious rites), but also for other holidays of the season. Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas. Customs such as the Yule log, Yule goat, Yule boar, Yule singing, and others stem from Yule. A number of Neopagans have introduced their own rites.

Yule is used to refer to Christmas and several other holidays.

It is saying terms with an etymological equivalent, so that would mean not Yule.

And, just so you know, when it says, "Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas," it means that we don't commonly call Christmas by Yule, because we call it Christmas.

[Farnhamia]

I've never liked Immoren. *sends his address to the Guards*

Dear Farn. Don't you ever learn your prison can't hold me.

I know, but it shuts you up for a while.

[Mavorpen]

It is saying terms with an etymological equivalent, so that would mean not Yule.

We've been over this you know. Remember when the actual Nordic guy, Immoren, already fucking stated that their terms=Yule?

And, just so you know, when it says, "Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas," it means that we don't commonly call Christmas by Yule, because we call it Christmas.

Because Yule=/=Christmas.

[Free Soviets]

you guys! did you see this?
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/2 ... s-a/191591

according to o'reilly, government displays of explicitly christian xmas things aren't establishing religion because christianity isn't a religion. instead, it is a philosophy. one that happens to have been adopted by various religions, including catholics and lutherans and muslims. and you are a retard if you think his argument is retarded.

[Abatael]

It is saying terms with an etymological equivalent, so that would mean not Yule.

We've been over this you know. Remember when the actual Nordic guy, Immoren, already fucking stated that their terms=Yule?

And, just so you know, when it says, "Yule is also used to a lesser extent in English-speaking countries to refer to Christmas," it means that we don't commonly call Christmas by Yule, because we call it Christmas.

Because Yule=/=Christmas.

Their term is "Joulu." He said that already.

And, it does equal that. I gave you all those dictionary links, all of which say it means Christmas.

[Mavorpen]

you guys! did you see this?
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/2 ... s-a/191591

government displays of explicitly christian xmas things aren't establishing religion because christianity isn't a religion. instead, it is a philosophy adopted by catholics and lutherans and muslims. and you are a retard if you think his argument is retarded.

Bluth has infiltrated the enemy successfully.

[Mavorpen]

We've been over this you know. Remember when the actual Nordic guy, Immoren, already fucking stated that their terms=Yule?

Because Yule=/=Christmas.

Their term is "Joulu." He said that already.

Which is the Finnish equivalent of Yule. You do know that they don't speak the same languages, right?

[Farnhamia]

you guys! did you see this?
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/2 ... s-a/191591

government displays of explicitly christian xmas things aren't establishing religion because christianity isn't a religion. instead, it is a philosophy adopted by catholics and lutherans and muslims. and you are a retard if you think his argument is retarded.

Ah, I love it. What can you expect from someone who is just an entertainer?

[Lesbia]

I say "merry Christmas" and everyone around me does as well. If you are offended by such a statement, then you might as well lock yourself up for the month of December.

[Farnhamia]

I say "merry Christmas" and everyone around me does as well. If you are offended by such a statement, then you might as well lock yourself up for the month of December.

We used to lock Gallo up until Spring, but half the time he would get out and when he didn't, well, you didn't want to be anywhere nearby.

[Lunalia]

As an atheist, I celebrate Christmas because it's an old pagan festival with a different name.

And if my parents make me set up the nativity scene this year, next year I'm replacing all the angels with little plushies of video game angels....

[Free Soviets]

you guys! did you see this?
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/11/2 ... s-a/191591

government displays of explicitly christian xmas things aren't establishing religion because christianity isn't a religion. instead, it is a philosophy adopted by catholics and lutherans and muslims. and you are a retard if you think his argument is retarded.

Ah, I love it. What can you expect from someone who is just an entertainer?

what confuses me is that this argument seems like the sort of thing that would piss off his viewers. like, it makes us laugh, but i don't think conservative christians will take kindly to the idea that christianity isn't a religion. to say nothing of the implication that the dreaded muslims are in fact christians themselves.