The war on Christmas

[Pope Joan]

Speaking as a Christian, I think the holiday has become a social event and a merchandizing bonanza. I would prefer it no longer bear a religious name, just call it Winterfest. Keep Santa, he's not Christian any more. Have gifts and songs and sales blitzes and strong drink and the whole shebang.

Then move the celebration of the birth of Jesus of Nazareth- a date no one can establish with certainty anyway- to mid August, when nothing else is going on. No school parties, no big sales events, just some candles and songs and prayers.

It would be wonderful.

how is santa not christan anymore, did the immagrents take his job too?

Long ago there was a saint named Nicholas. He was associated with Christmas. But then he was turned into "Santa" and the true meaning of the holiday he was employed to promote was not devotion or spirituality but commercialism, you know, the "spirit of giving."

Bland songs such as "Happy Holidays" were meant to inoffensively replace the annoyingly religious carols.

Nativity scenes cannot be placed by the county court house, you know that. But Santa? Sure, fine, he's nothing.

[The Emerald Dawn]

how is santa not christan anymore, did the immagrents take his job too?

Long ago there was a saint named Nicholas. He was associated with Christmas. But then he was turned into "Santa" and the true meaning of the holiday he was employed to promote was not devotion or spirituality but commercialism, you know, the "spirit of giving."

Bland songs such as "Happy Holidays" were meant to inoffensively replace the annoyingly religious carols.

Nativity scenes cannot be placed by the county court house, you know that. But Santa? Sure, fine, he's nothing.

Salvation Army dresses as Santa for a reason. Its insidious, but there it is.

[Tekania]

Long ago there was a saint named Nicholas. He was associated with Christmas. But then he was turned into "Santa" and the true meaning of the holiday he was employed to promote was not devotion or spirituality but commercialism, you know, the "spirit of giving."

Bland songs such as "Happy Holidays" were meant to inoffensively replace the annoyingly religious carols.

Nativity scenes cannot be placed by the county court house, you know that. But Santa? Sure, fine, he's nothing.

Salvation Army dresses as Santa for a reason. Its insidious, but there it is.

That, along with the entire Christmas Kettle program is what they use for funding their winter shelters. I don't class that as insidious, personally.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Salvation Army dresses as Santa for a reason. Its insidious, but there it is.

That, along with the entire Christmas Kettle program is what they use for funding their winter shelters. I don't class that as insidious, personally.

Not the Salvation Army doing good part. The dressing as Santa part.
I usually drop at least a quarter in every time I wheel past the bell-ringers, as long as I have some in my cupholder.

[Khadgar]

Salvation Army dresses as Santa for a reason. Its insidious, but there it is.

That, along with the entire Christmas Kettle program is what they use for funding their winter shelters. I don't class that as insidious, personally.

I know they do good work, I just wish they weren't such twats.

[Tekania]

That, along with the entire Christmas Kettle program is what they use for funding their winter shelters. I don't class that as insidious, personally.

Not the Salvation Army doing good part. The dressing as Santa part.
I usually drop at least a quarter in every time I wheel past the bell-ringers, as long as I have some in my cupholder.

Hey, it's a uniform.... they lie uniforms. lol.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Not the Salvation Army doing good part. The dressing as Santa part.
I usually drop at least a quarter in every time I wheel past the bell-ringers, as long as I have some in my cupholder.

Hey, it's a uniform.... they lie uniforms. lol.

THE UNIFORM IS A LIE!

[Neo Art]

Hey, it's a uniform.... they lie uniforms. lol.

THE UNIFORM IS A LIE!

Fuck you it's santa.

[Bottle]

When WAS Santa Christian?

When he was still called Saint Nicholas, a verified saint. Santa Claus is pretty much a deranged mutation of this bishop.

Santa Claus is only partially based on Saint Nicholas.

I suppose we are getting to that time of year, when I should post A Very Bottle Xmas History to remind everyone of the origins of the holiday and symbology...

[Farnhamia]

When he was still called Saint Nicholas, a verified saint. Santa Claus is pretty much a deranged mutation of this bishop.

Santa Claus is only partially based on Saint Nicholas.

I suppose we are getting to that time of year, when I should post A Very Bottle Xmas History to remind everyone of the origins of the holiday and symbology...

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

[Czechanada]

Santa Claus is only partially based on Saint Nicholas.

I suppose we are getting to that time of year, when I should post A Very Bottle Xmas History to remind everyone of the origins of the holiday and symbology...

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

No such thing as the Ides of December.

[Neo Art]

Santa Claus is only partially based on Saint Nicholas.

I suppose we are getting to that time of year, when I should post A Very Bottle Xmas History to remind everyone of the origins of the holiday and symbology...

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

Where's my samosa?

[The Emerald Dawn]

THE UNIFORM IS A LIE!

Fuck you it's santa.

....Is Santa in reality "Omnipresent-Man"?

[Farnhamia]

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

Where's my samosa?

I ... Where did you have it last?

[Bottle]

Santa Claus is only partially based on Saint Nicholas.

I suppose we are getting to that time of year, when I should post A Very Bottle Xmas History to remind everyone of the origins of the holiday and symbology...

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

My version of the Xmas story has an eight-legged horse, two fire gods, and the re-animated son of a goddess of fertility. But nooooo, everyone just wants "It's A Wonderful Life" reruns...

[Khadgar]

Oh, please don't. If you do we'll have everyone screaming about Yule and trees and logs and those fucking thieving Christians. Or at least wait until, like, the Ides of December. That'll be close enough to the Saturnalia that I won't care. Much.

My version of the Xmas story has an eight-legged horse, two fire gods, and the re-animated son of a goddess of fertility. But nooooo, everyone just wants "It's A Wonderful Life" reruns...

Slepnir and Odin versus Rudolph and Santa. We'll leave Gungnir out of it.

[The Emerald Dawn]

My version of the Xmas story has an eight-legged horse, two fire gods, and the re-animated son of a goddess of fertility. But nooooo, everyone just wants "It's A Wonderful Life" reruns...

Slepnir and Odin versus Rudolph and Santa. We'll leave Gungnir out of it.

I have millions of deities. I think just by sheer population expansion we're going to win.

[Farnhamia]

Slepnir and Odin versus Rudolph and Santa. We'll leave Gungnir out of it.

I have millions of deities. I think just by sheer population expansion we're going to win.

And leading the host
was den Smaragdgrønne daggry,
An tús glas,
with his great lance Bjorn, fashioned from
an entire fir tree ...

[The Emerald Dawn]

I have millions of deities. I think just by sheer population expansion we're going to win.

And leading the host
was den Smaragdgrønne daggry,
An tús glas,
with his great lance Bjorn, fashioned from
an entire fir tree ...

You just earn admirers by the dozens daily, don't you Farn?

[Farnhamia]

And leading the host
was den Smaragdgrønne daggry,
An tús glas,
with his great lance Bjorn, fashioned from
an entire fir tree ...

You just earn admirers by the dozens daily, don't you Farn?

One tries. Be happy I didn't try do do it like that damned cattle-raid of Cooley where Cú Chulainn fights his brother for three friggin' days.

[Neo Art]

Where's my samosa?

I ... Where did you have it last?

You said something about a samosa a bit ago, I wasn't hungry at the time but I could go for one now.

[Farnhamia]

I ... Where did you have it last?

You said something about a samosa a bit ago, I wasn't hungry at the time but I could go for one now.

So could I. Don't have a decent Indian place near me. Downtown, maybe but parking is a pain and expensive.

I think I have a box of Samoas hidden away somewhere.

[The Emerald Dawn]

You just earn admirers by the dozens daily, don't you Farn?

One tries. Be happy I didn't try do do it like that damned cattle-raid of Cooley where Cú Chulainn fights his brother for three friggin' days.

...Oh lord, don't remind me. That idiot couldn't hit a watermelon with a cricket bat.

[Neo Art]

You said something about a samosa a bit ago, I wasn't hungry at the time but I could go for one now.

So could I. Don't have a decent Indian place near me. Downtown, maybe but parking is a pain and expensive.

I think I have a box of Samoas hidden away somewhere.

I've got 3 in walking distance of my apartment, and Whole Foods occassionally does an indian day...

How about mimosa?

[The Realm of God]

You said something about a samosa a bit ago, I wasn't hungry at the time but I could go for one now.

So could I. Don't have a decent Indian place near me. Downtown, maybe but parking is a pain and expensive.

I think I have a box of Samoas hidden away somewhere.

That's the sad thing about living in America. Back home in the UK the Indian was much much better than over here.