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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:23 am

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Agreed, their meatballs are fantastic.

That said, the places where you and I live aren't exactly teaming with the "say merry christmas or else!" crowd.

True. A friend of mine recently moved to Somerville from North Carolina, and when he was looking for apartments he commented, "Oh, there's a Planned Parenthood like two blocks from this place." I was confused as to why this even merited comment (there's actually a second PP within walking distance), and then he explained, "Well, my parents would be a little freaked out to know I was so close to one of those." And I reassured him that when his parents come visit and notice that he lives 3 blocks from a famous lesbian coffeehouse they'll forget all about the abortion factory down the street.

These are the things you get used to when living in the heart of the secular wasteland that is New England.


My mother visited my apartment in Brookline a little before the election. She commented that she thought I lived in a very liberal neighborhood, but was surprised to see so few lawn advertisements and bumper stickers there were for Obama

I explained to her that Brookline doesn't advertise for Democrats, not because they don't vote for them, but because of a general trend of "well, of course I'm voting democrat, who else did you think I was going to vote for?"

That said, a few years ago I did see someone had stuck a bumper sticker to the metro box that said, I think "No 'Merry Christmas' then know Merry Christma$".

And I'm sitting her going "really? REALLY? You think this strategy is going to work in Coolidge Fucking Corner?"
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Postby Tekania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:31 am

Avarnica wrote:The non-Christians can just get over it, they live in a majorly Christian country, they should expect religion to affect their everyday lives.


Personally I expect everyone to get over it. I hear less of this bullshit from non-christians than I do other Christians bitching that someone is calling something or wishing someone a holiday something rather than a Christmas something.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:50 am

Avarnica wrote:Why do these people want to destroy America's indetity?

The non-Christians can just get over it, they live in a majorly Christian country, they should expect religion to affect their everyday lives.

Besides, it's not like anyone celebrates Christmas as a religious holiday anymore... they just want free stuff.

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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:53 am

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I'm pretty sure that Jesus fella was a socialist. I wonder how he reconciles that.


Jesus got angry at a fig tree for not giving him figs when it was not in season, and cursed it by never letting it grow figs again.

That's not really socialistic.

Jesus was bi-polar.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:17 am

Avarnica wrote:Why do these people want to destroy America's indetity?

The non-Christians can just get over it, they live in a majorly Christian country, they should expect religion to affect their everyday lives.

Besides, it's not like anyone celebrates Christmas as a religious holiday anymore... they just want free stuff.

I dunno. The original Indians didn't celebrate Christmas.

So, why do Christians want to destroy Native Americans?
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Postby Evil Siamese Cats » Fri Nov 30, 2012 8:34 am

The term "War on Christmas" is absolutely laughable. Frankly, Christmas is in the process of running is tanks all over Thanksgiving, Halloween, and the fucking Autumnal Equinox in its neverending quest to dominate the dadgum calendar. And just because it doesn't enjoy a government-sanctioned monopoly on the entire month of December and the bulk of November doesn't mean there a damn war on it. Anyone with a brain knows that.

Frankly, if there's a war on a holiday we need to be concerned with, it's the war on Thanksgiving, which is being encroached by Black Friday, the Number Two to Christmas' Dr. Evil, the Sunshine Band to Christmas' K.C. The fact that Black Friday now starts on the night of Thanksgiving itself is absolutely fucking insane, and if people want to legislate to save a holiday, that's the one they need to focus on.

I propose a new law to Congress: No retail establishment (and we'll iron out the wording later) shall be open for business, other than online, between the hours of 10 pm the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and 6 am the Friday before Thanksgiving. Furthermore, no "Black Friday" sales shall begin bfore 6 am the Friday after Thanksgiving or end after 11:59 pm the Friday after Thanksgiving. Establishments that violate this law shall be forced to close for Black Friday for the next 12 years. Don't like it? Congress can regulate interstate commerce, bitches, so go fuck yourselves.

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Postby Tekania » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:00 am

Evil Siamese Cats wrote:The term "War on Christmas" is absolutely laughable. Frankly, Christmas is in the process of running is tanks all over Thanksgiving, Halloween, and the fucking Autumnal Equinox in its neverending quest to dominate the dadgum calendar. And just because it doesn't enjoy a government-sanctioned monopoly on the entire month of December and the bulk of November doesn't mean there a damn war on it. Anyone with a brain knows that.

Frankly, if there's a war on a holiday we need to be concerned with, it's the war on Thanksgiving, which is being encroached by Black Friday, the Number Two to Christmas' Dr. Evil, the Sunshine Band to Christmas' K.C. The fact that Black Friday now starts on the night of Thanksgiving itself is absolutely fucking insane, and if people want to legislate to save a holiday, that's the one they need to focus on.

I propose a new law to Congress: No retail establishment (and we'll iron out the wording later) shall be open for business, other than online, between the hours of 10 pm the Wednesday before Thanksgiving and 6 am the Friday before Thanksgiving. Furthermore, no "Black Friday" sales shall begin bfore 6 am the Friday after Thanksgiving or end after 11:59 pm the Friday after Thanksgiving. Establishments that violate this law shall be forced to close for Black Friday for the next 12 years. Don't like it? Congress can regulate interstate commerce, bitches, so go fuck yourselves.


Tell me about it.... I unequivocally refuse to participate any anything Christmass related till AFTER thanksgiving.
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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:05 am

Neo Art wrote:
I get what you're saying, I really do. And it's fringe bullshit like this:

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:2. People are idiots if they get offended by being wished a merry or happy or good [insert any religious and/or traditional holiday or festival], even if they're not celebrating it themselves. I mean, grow the fuck up, put a lid on your obnoxious religious pride, and welcome a fucking greeting. :roll:

That gives a rest of us all a bad name.

Excuse me, but -- did you just say that the idea of welcoming a greeting instead of getting angry and offensive about it, is 'fringe bullshit'? :eyebrow:

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:08 am

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:
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I get what you're saying, I really do. And it's fringe bullshit like this:


That gives a rest of us all a bad name.

Excuse me, but -- did you just say that the idea of welcoming a greeting instead of getting angry and offensive about it, is 'fringe bullshit'? :eyebrow:

I imagine Neo's point is, perhaps you should think twice before splashing your greeting on everyone you see, many of whom may not be of your particular spiritual persuasion.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:12 am

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:
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I get what you're saying, I really do. And it's fringe bullshit like this:


That gives a rest of us all a bad name.

Excuse me, but -- did you just say that the idea of welcoming a greeting instead of getting angry and offensive about it, is 'fringe bullshit'? :eyebrow:


There were a lot of words following that part you were quoting and, believe it or not, they're all important. You may wish to read ALL of them before replying. I understand there were a lot of them, and it might be daunting to tackle it all at once. Maybe try breaking it up, taking it a bit at a time? Maybe take a nap in between or something?

So when you've gotten through the whooooooole thing, come on back, and we'll talk, ok kiddo?

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:15 am

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Jesus got angry at a fig tree for not giving him figs when it was not in season, and cursed it by never letting it grow figs again.



Sounds like that childish outburst should have got him on Santa's naughty list.
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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:19 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:Excuse me, but -- did you just say that the idea of welcoming a greeting instead of getting angry and offensive about it, is 'fringe bullshit'? :eyebrow:

I imagine Neo's point is, perhaps you should think twice before splashing your greeting on everyone you see, many of whom may not be of your particular spiritual persuasion.

''splashing your greeting'', yeah, it's like an assault isn't it... :roll:
Anyway, my point was pretty clear; even though you're not part of someone's ''particular spiritual persuasion'', you've got no reason to get upset about being greeted. If you can turn a greeting into an insult, you've got some serious negativity issues you need to address.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:21 am

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Farnhamia wrote:I imagine Neo's point is, perhaps you should think twice before splashing your greeting on everyone you see, many of whom may not be of your particular spiritual persuasion.

''splashing your greeting'', yeah, it's like an assault isn't it... :roll:
Anyway, my point was pretty clear; even though you're not part of someone's ''particular spiritual persuasion'', you've got no reason to get upset about being greeted. If you can turn a greeting into an insult, you've got some serious negativity issues you need to address.

It's more like, "What an inconsiderate asshole, assuming that I'm a Christian without knowing me." I then proceed to move on with my day.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:24 am

Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I imagine Neo's point is, perhaps you should think twice before splashing your greeting on everyone you see, many of whom may not be of your particular spiritual persuasion.

''splashing your greeting'', yeah, it's like an assault isn't it... :roll:
Anyway, my point was pretty clear; even though you're not part of someone's ''particular spiritual persuasion'', you've got no reason to get upset about being greeted. If you can turn a greeting into an insult, you've got some serious negativity issues you need to address.

Perhaps "splashing" was an odd term to use, but the point is, you don't seem to understand that not everyone shares your outlook. I personally don't care, but some folks might not care to be "Merry Christmas'ed."
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:25 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:''splashing your greeting'', yeah, it's like an assault isn't it... :roll:
Anyway, my point was pretty clear; even though you're not part of someone's ''particular spiritual persuasion'', you've got no reason to get upset about being greeted. If you can turn a greeting into an insult, you've got some serious negativity issues you need to address.

It's more like, "What an inconsiderate asshole, assuming that I'm a Christian without knowing me." I then proceed to move on with my day.


I'm tempted to make a new movement, make December 25th "homosexual anal sex day". If someone says "merry christmas" to me, I say "I hope you and your gay lover have a happy homosexual anal sex day".

What? I'm just trying to be nice here!
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:26 am

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Mavorpen wrote:It's more like, "What an inconsiderate asshole, assuming that I'm a Christian without knowing me." I then proceed to move on with my day.


I'm tempted to make a new movement, make December 25th "homosexual anal sex day". If someone says "merry christmas" to me, I say "I hope you and your gay lover have a happy homosexual anal sex day".

What? I'm just trying to be nice here!

Only if us lesbians can have ... Boxing Day.
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:27 am

Farnhamia wrote:
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I'm tempted to make a new movement, make December 25th "homosexual anal sex day". If someone says "merry christmas" to me, I say "I hope you and your gay lover have a happy homosexual anal sex day".

What? I'm just trying to be nice here!

Only if us lesbians can have ... Boxing Day.


Too obscure. How about "don't you wish you had a penis" eve?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:29 am

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Farnhamia wrote:Only if us lesbians can have ... Boxing Day.


Too obscure. How about "don't you wish you had a penis" eve?

Mmm ... no. "Double-headed Dildo Day"?
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:30 am

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Too obscure. How about "don't you wish you had a penis" eve?

Mmm ... no. "Double-headed Dildo Day"?


Isn't that the actual christmas for you people?
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:32 am

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Farnhamia wrote:Mmm ... no. "Double-headed Dildo Day"?


Isn't that the actual christmas for you people?

Actually, it's really the Anti-Annunciation, where Gabriel announces to Mary that she's going to bear God's son and she says, "I don't swing that way."
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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:33 am

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Isn't that the actual christmas for you people?

Actually, it's really the Anti-Annunciation, where Gabriel announces to Mary that she's going to bear God's son and she says, "I don't swing that way."


Just so you know, if you were like..half your age, and straight (or "experimenting"), I'd totally do you. Just sayin'.
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Postby Brum Brum » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:36 am

I hate the word winter holiday. Would you call eid or Divali something else? No... Well why treat Christian Christmas any different?

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:36 am

Neo Art wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Actually, it's really the Anti-Annunciation, where Gabriel announces to Mary that she's going to bear God's son and she says, "I don't swing that way."


Just so you know, if you were like..half your age, and straight (or "experimenting"), I'd totally do you. Just sayin'.

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Postby Copenhagen Metropolis » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:45 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Copenhagen Metropolis wrote:''splashing your greeting'', yeah, it's like an assault isn't it... :roll:
Anyway, my point was pretty clear; even though you're not part of someone's ''particular spiritual persuasion'', you've got no reason to get upset about being greeted. If you can turn a greeting into an insult, you've got some serious negativity issues you need to address.

It's more like, "What an inconsiderate asshole, assuming that I'm a Christian without knowing me."

1. Who says he's assuming that you're Christian? It may just be his holiday, and all he's doing is wishing you well on his holiday. What's wrong wit that?
2. Why does assuming that you are Christian make one an ''inconsiderate asshole''? It does make him 'wrong', but a inconsiderate asshole...really?
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Farnhamia wrote:Perhaps "splashing" was an odd term to use, but the point is, you don't seem to understand that not everyone shares your outlook. I personally don't care, but some folks might not care to be "Merry Christmas'ed."

I understand. And I seem to understand.
And to continue with the patronizing; what you don't seem to understand is that even though you don't celebrate the same holidays, you shouldn't get offended by being greeted. And I'm sure this has only something to do with religion. Muslims don't want to be Merry Christmas'ed, Christians don't want to be Shabbat Shalom'ed, Jews don't want to be Eid Mubarak'ed, etc. I bet there's no problem the second it leaves the question of 'belief' and enters national traditions and the like. Just shows that it all comes down to religious pride.

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Postby Neo Art » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:47 am

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Just so you know, if you were like..half your age, and straight (or "experimenting"), I'd totally do you. Just sayin'.

*smiles* Sono commossa.


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