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Postby Nova Imperius » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:29 pm

Zaras wrote:
Nova Imperius wrote:Actually Zaras almost everyone i know are against multiculturalism.


Ask them what multiculturalism actually is.

We seem to be amoungst the only country that allows so many people in and not try to merge them into our culture


It's gotta be a two-way street. Demanding that immigrants assimilate completely without at least making an effort to meet them halfway reeks of noxious nationalism.

Plus, *cough*america*cough*.

Well in scotland we see it as a bunch of foreigners coming over, taking jobs, often getting advantages for there colour, and clubing into little colonies recreating the homeland they left. I actually dont mind but want British to be in the Majority. I really love foreign cusine as im sure u all do

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Postby Pesda » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:32 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:If mass immigration had been given a democratic mandate and if immigrants were actually encouraged to assimilate I don't think that this would be an issue. But the problem is, we were never asked if we wanted this and the slightest criticism is deemed to be racist. Most people in Britain are opposed to this scale of immigration. The government has no right to do this.
Personally I don't think that skin colour matters. However, the indigenous Britons becoming a minority is NOT a non-issue as the majority are opposed to the immigration policies that caused this (which we never had a chance to vote on). Had we given our consent then I would not be so angered by this.
Multiculturalism is also a huge part of the problem. If the people coming here were encouraged to become part of British society rather than some Pakistani/Indian/African etc. colony in the inner cities there wouldn't be so many issues.


There's not such thing as an indigenous Briton. We're mixed anyway.
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Postby Heavenly Peace » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:35 pm

The Anglo-Saxon peoples, much like the Israelites of old, need to be led on an exodus to escape persecution and to find a new, common land. Only together can we turn the dream of Albion into a reality.
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Postby The Diomede Islands » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:35 pm

You don't give human rights a democratic mandate. They're human rights. They don't get put up to a vote.

Mass immigration isn't a human right.
The UK isn't the only country that failed to actually do anything to try to accommodate immigrants. Look at the Netherlands and Germany shooting themselves in the foot over gastarbeiters.

We've been far too accommodating to some. Immigrants come here and fit in or leave. We shouldn't throw money at them.
You live in a country with the Daily Mail, are you even suprised? IIRC, the Conservatives ran on a slogan of "It's Not Racist to Criticise Immigration" in 2005. Y'know the rule - if someone says "It's/I'm not racist...", what follows is horribly racist.

It isn't racist to criticise immigration. The only reason people have to say "It's/I'm not racist..." is because of people like you, who think that anything and everything is racist when it demonstratively isn't. Listen to the opinions of others rather than smearing your opponents.
I'd like to see some reasonable objections to immigration, but so far the criticism part of the debate in many ways has been dominated by the bigoted crowd.

Anyone who doesn't favour mass immigration and the total denigration of indigenous British culture is a bigot I assume?
That's fucking rich, and hypocritical, considering that the UK is basically 100% the result of invasions.

The immigration in recent years is incomparable to any point in our history. It's simply unrivalled.
Yes it is. Who seriously cares about this except the darkie-hatin' BNP crowd?

Very few people hate other races. It's not racist to want to preserve your own culture (which just so happens to mostly be white). Would you say the same about the Aborigines or Maori? Were they be neo-nazis for opposing mass immigration?
Ah, criticism of multiculturalism. A sure sign that a poster doesn't actually know anything about multiculturalism and is just parroting back tiresome Daily Mail crap instead of actually having an argument.

I know plenty about Multiculturalism and I dislike it. Immigrants should be trying to assimilate themselves.
Thank you for confirming my suspicion that you're just spewing scaremongering bullshit.

How is it scaremongering? They're all over the big cities. They bred the 7/7 bombers. To say that they aren't an issue is preposterous.
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Postby The Diomede Islands » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Diomede Islands wrote:If mass immigration had been given a democratic mandate and if immigrants were actually encouraged to assimilate I don't think that this would be an issue. But the problem is, we were never asked if we wanted this and the slightest criticism is deemed to be racist. Most people in Britain are opposed to this scale of immigration. The government has no right to do this.
Personally I don't think that skin colour matters. However, the indigenous Britons becoming a minority is NOT a non-issue as the majority are opposed to the immigration policies that caused this (which we never had a chance to vote on). Had we given our consent then I would not be so angered by this.
Multiculturalism is also a huge part of the problem. If the people coming here were encouraged to become part of British society rather than some Pakistani/Indian/African etc. colony in the inner cities there wouldn't be so many issues.


There's not such thing as an indigenous Briton. We're mixed anyway.

We share about 75% of our DNA with people who came here 15,000 years ago. To me, that makes us indigenous.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Heavenly Peace wrote:The Anglo-Saxon peoples, much like the Israelites of old, need to be led on an exodus to escape persecution and to find a new, common land. Only together can we turn the dream of Albion into a reality.

Have fun with that.

I'm going to stay back here with the Asian women.
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Postby Of Nom » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:38 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:How is it scaremongering? They're all over the big cities. They bred the 7/7 bombers. To say that they aren't an issue is preposterous.


That right there is where problems will occur, and why you'd be called racist. Immigrants did not breed those people, fanatics did, big difference. the IRA bred in a white British culture did far more damage than the 7/7 bombers.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Nova Imperius wrote:
Zaras wrote:
You don't give human rights a democratic mandate. They're human rights. They don't get put up to a vote.



The UK isn't the only country that failed to actually do anything to try to accommodate immigrants. Look at the Netherlands and Germany shooting themselves in the foot over gastarbeiters.



You live in a country with the Daily Mail, are you even suprised? IIRC, the Conservatives ran on a slogan of "It's Not Racist to Criticise Immigration" in 2005. Y'know the rule - if someone says "It's/I'm not racist...", what follows is horribly racist.

I'd like to see some reasonable objections to immigration, but so far the criticism part of the debate in many ways has been dominated by the bigoted crowd.



That's fucking rich, and hypocritical, considering that the UK is basically 100% the result of invasions.



Yes it is. Who seriously cares about this except the darkie-hatin' BNP crowd?



Ah, criticism of multiculturalism. A sure sign that a poster doesn't actually know anything about multiculturalism and is just parroting back tiresome Daily Mail crap instead of actually having an argument.



Thank you for confirming my suspicion that you're just spewing scaremongering bullshit.

Actually Zaras almost everyone i know are against multiculturalism. We seem to be amoungst the only country that allows so many people in and not try to merge them into our culture

i can never find the right article but it's hilarious because it seems like only immigrants identify as british nowadays whereas everyone else is increasingly opting for english/scottish/etc.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Xathranaar wrote:I'm going to stay back here with the Asian women.

The amount of talk in this thread about Asian women is too damn high.
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Postby Pesda » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:
Pesda wrote:
There's not such thing as an indigenous Briton. We're mixed anyway.

We share about 75% of our DNA with people who came here 15,000 years ago. To me, that makes us indigenous.


We share 96% of our DNA with apes.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:I'm going to stay back here with the Asian women.

The amount of talk in this thread about Asian women is too damn high.

Fair enough.

East African women then.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:
Pesda wrote:
There's not such thing as an indigenous Briton. We're mixed anyway.

We share about 75% of our DNA with people who came here 15,000 years ago. To me, that makes us indigenous.

You share 99% of DNA with chimpanzees. That makes you chimpanzee?
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Postby Of Nom » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:42 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:I'm going to stay back here with the Asian women.

The amount of talk in this thread about Asian women is too damn high.


there is just not enough talk of Asian women in this thread.

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Postby Czechanada » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:42 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The amount of talk in this thread about Asian women is too damn high.

Fair enough.

East African women then.


I went down that route.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:43 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:The amount of talk in this thread about Asian women is too damn high.

Fair enough.

East African women then.

Fair enough.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:43 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Diomede Islands wrote:We share about 75% of our DNA with people who came here 15,000 years ago. To me, that makes us indigenous.

You share 99% of DNA with chimpanzees. That makes you chimpanzee?

I'd rather be a bonobo. So much sex.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:44 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Xathranaar wrote:Fair enough.

East African women then.

Fair enough.

I'm sorry, but I live in Minneapolis. Those are pretty much the two options.
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Postby Ovisterra » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:45 pm

Of Nom wrote:
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Are they citizens?

Because referring to British citizens as "foreigners" is a problem.



I'm not sure, some are recent moves, some are not, I used that so as to distinguish,, if i'd said citizens (which most are) it wouldn't have really have made sense.


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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:45 pm

Xathranaar wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Fair enough.

I'm sorry, but I live in Minneapolis. Those are pretty much the two options.

I live in North Texas, and due to my university, my options are pretty much Caucasian women and Asian women.
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Seems the UK. is indeed having a demographic change. It is even reflected in movies like the one below. By the way, I liked this movie about a neighborhood gang vs. Alien invaders.

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Postby The Diomede Islands » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:47 pm

Of Nom wrote:
The Diomede Islands wrote:How is it scaremongering? They're all over the big cities. They bred the 7/7 bombers. To say that they aren't an issue is preposterous.


That right there is where problems will occur, and why you'd be called racist. Immigrants did not breed those people, fanatics did, big difference. the IRA bred in a white British culture did far more damage than the 7/7 bombers.

I'm not racist, I didn't once mention race, and I don't see race as the issue here. Imported religious fanatics are the issue. They were fanatical immigrants who loathed and despised the culture they lived in. That's why multiculturalism is wrong. We should be mixing and talking with eachother, not encouraging separation.
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Postby The Diomede Islands » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:49 pm

Pesda wrote:
The Diomede Islands wrote:We share about 75% of our DNA with people who came here 15,000 years ago. To me, that makes us indigenous.


We share 96% of our DNA with apes.

True, but that's not what we're talking about. You were saying that there was no indigenous British population, and there is.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:51 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:
Pesda wrote:
We share 96% of our DNA with apes.

True, but that's not what we're talking about. You were saying that there was no indigenous British population, and there is.

No, there aren't.
Humanity originated in Africa and that includes British population. As for the culture; it is just mixture of cultures which they got invaded (and defeated) by.
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Postby Xathranaar » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:52 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:
Pesda wrote:
We share 96% of our DNA with apes.

True, but that's not what we're talking about. You were saying that there was no indigenous British population, and there is.

Would that be the Saxons? Angles? Jutes? Normans?
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:52 pm

The Diomede Islands wrote:
Of Nom wrote:
That right there is where problems will occur, and why you'd be called racist. Immigrants did not breed those people, fanatics did, big difference. the IRA bred in a white British culture did far more damage than the 7/7 bombers.

I'm not racist, I didn't once mention race, and I don't see race as the issue here. Imported religious fanatics are the issue. They were fanatical immigrants who loathed and despised the culture they lived in. That's why multiculturalism is wrong. We should be mixing and talking with eachother, not encouraging separation.


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