White Britons to be minority IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY by 2066

[Condunum]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

It won't be, and tradition is not inherently good.

I guess we might see white flight from the cities (like in the USA) to the villages. Villages will be white and cities mixed.

What?

The Africa for the Africans and Asia for the Asians argument is valid. China and Malaysia are free to discriminate but ask the average liberal and they will be cool with it. It is fine to discriminate against others as long as you are not white. Only whites can be racist people. Everybody else is just trying to protect their great culture.

Bullshit. In case you haven't noticed, most people who are actually liberal, and not just nominally, don't buy into the "X land for X people" bullshit, so you're not making a solid argument here.

China has the strategy of flooding Tibet and Xinjiang with Han Chinese to gain full control of those areas via population. The Arabs have the same idea with Europe. It is a brilliant and simple idea that will work.

No, they aren't actually doing that. That is, unless you have some insightful information you wish to share with us that isn't just baseless bullshit.

One fair idea would be 'eye for an eye' citizenship policies. We won't allow Chinese to become citizens in the USA or Britain until they allow non-Chinese people to become citizens of China.

because that totally doesn't scream inhumane.

We can do this for any country that refuses citizenship based on race.

Yep. Punish expats for what their former home did. Brilliant.

This policy will encourage fairness and decrease discrimination around the world.

If history is any indicator, it will only encourage resentment and tension. Nothing else.

Also a 'one for one' immigration policy for poor countries. For every one British or American person becoming a Pakistani citizen we will allow one Pakistani immigrant to become a British or American citizen.

Right, so don't allow any expansion of our workforce? Good idea.

This is also fair and will slow down immigration from poor countries and make the population growth drop.

Why would we want to slow the immigration from poor countries? They take the jobs that others won't do.

[Laerod]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

Foolishness. New groups coming in and replacing the old is a proud and historic British tradition.

[Condunum]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

Foolishness. New groups coming in and replacing the old is a proud and historic British tradition.

The Romans, the Danes, the Normans, et cetera.

[Invermory]

... but it is actually not true at all.

See, the region those white Britons came from before they immigrated into what is Britain now, are firmly set in what is Denmark and Germany now. Unless they came a bit later, when it's France.

What they did is flee their home regions for mainly economic reasons. They moved to greener pastures and pushed the original population out, who unfortunately had no Internet to write crude posts about becoming a minority in their own country. Not even those nice chaps who already had a foreign background when that nice William chap decided to kick their asses in 1066.

So, I guess we can safely assume that a short but adequate reply to the OP would be "Good Night White Pride!"

Cheers,

Tom

[Renegade Island]

Genetics.

Point out to me where the Irish gene is located.

He's the offspring of his Chinese parents, therefore genetically he's Chinese.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Well I started reading through this thread and the OP was shown to be wrong/ignorant/lying by page 3, and then they just kept repeating the same lie over and over as if they repeat it enough it will come true or we will be magically convinced. So on page 5 I gave up - is there anything in the other 22 pages worth looking at?

[Xathranaar]

Point out to me where the Irish gene is located.

He's the offspring of his Chinese parents, therefore genetically he's Chinese.

I see. So where is the Chinese gene located then?

[Renegade Island]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

Foolishness. New groups coming in and replacing the old is a proud and historic British tradition.

I'm British, and can't think of any British traditions that I would especially miss.

Except perhaps the Edinburgh Festival.

[Condunum]

Foolishness. New groups coming in and replacing the old is a proud and historic British tradition.

I'm British, and can't think of any British traditions that I would especially miss.

Except perhaps the Edinburgh Festival.

Be Proud, Be British.

[Miyager]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

I guess we might see white flight from the cities (like in the USA) to the villages. Villages will be white and cities mixed.

The Africa for the Africans and Asia for the Asians argument is valid. China and Malaysia are free to discriminate but ask the average liberal and they will be cool with it. It is fine to discriminate against others as long as you are not white. Only whites can be racist people. Everybody else is just trying to protect their great culture.

China has the strategy of flooding Tibet and Xinjiang with Han Chinese to gain full control of those areas via population. The Arabs have the same idea with Europe. It is a brilliant and simple idea that will work.

One fair idea would be 'eye for an eye' citizenship policies. We won't allow Chinese to become citizens in the USA or Britain until they allow non-Chinese people to become citizens of China. We can do this for any country that refuses citizenship based on race. This policy will encourage fairness and decrease discrimination around the world. Also a 'one for one' immigration policy for poor countries. For every one British or American person becoming a Pakistani citizen we will allow one Pakistani immigrant to become a British or American citizen. This is also fair and will slow down immigration from poor countries and make the population growth drop.

This made me lose brain cells.

[Renegade Island]

I'm British, and can't think of any British traditions that I would especially miss.

Except perhaps the Edinburgh Festival.

Be Proud, Be British.

Ha.

Here's an interesting British fact:
The chicken tikka masala is Britains most popular dish.
And is actually a British invention. It doesn't exist as an Indian dish.
But, perplexingly, only Indian restaurants serve it.

[Condunum]

Be Proud, Be British.

Ha.

Here's an interesting British fact:
The chicken tikka masala is Britains most popular dish.
And is actually a British invention. It doesn't exist as an Indian dish.
But, perplexingly, only Indian restaurants serve it.

Most of the food you find in a Chinese restaurant is actually just western food, given that if it is actual Chinese food, the recipe is absurdly different.

[Alice Gardens]

Well keep in mind that a small difference can also be a huge difference. Just think of chromosomal diseases. Like being bald or not lol

Baldness isn't a disease! I am not steadily getting diseased!

Actually, it sort of is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldness#M ... _hair_loss
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgenic_alopecia
http://www.diseasesdatabase.com/ddb7773.htm

It's a sex linked disorder.

But even if it wasn't, tiny differences can translate into huge differences. Such as having Down Syndrome or being blind. So while it's true that we're mostly identical, at the same time there are important differences between individuals (and I don't mean just between races).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_abnormality

and
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disease
this includes genetic defects, not just transmitted diseases that you might think of in the conventional sense.

Also, susceptibility to certain diseases differs among racial groups so we're not identical. The less than 1% difference does matter in science.

[Freiheit Reich]

A reason I would not want to live in Europe (a.k.a. Eurabia). Britain is foolish to allow this. Their culture will be destroyed. It is sad that many traditions will be lost.

It won't be, and tradition is not inherently good.

I guess we might see white flight from the cities (like in the USA) to the villages. Villages will be white and cities mixed.

What?

The Africa for the Africans and Asia for the Asians argument is valid. China and Malaysia are free to discriminate but ask the average liberal and they will be cool with it. It is fine to discriminate against others as long as you are not white. Only whites can be racist people. Everybody else is just trying to protect their great culture.

Bullshit. In case you haven't noticed, most people who are actually liberal, and not just nominally, don't buy into the "X land for X people" bullshit, so you're not making a solid argument here.

China has the strategy of flooding Tibet and Xinjiang with Han Chinese to gain full control of those areas via population. The Arabs have the same idea with Europe. It is a brilliant and simple idea that will work.

No, they aren't actually doing that. That is, unless you have some insightful information you wish to share with us that isn't just baseless bullshit.

One fair idea would be 'eye for an eye' citizenship policies. We won't allow Chinese to become citizens in the USA or Britain until they allow non-Chinese people to become citizens of China.

because that totally doesn't scream inhumane.

We can do this for any country that refuses citizenship based on race.

Yep. Punish expats for what their former home did. Brilliant.

This policy will encourage fairness and decrease discrimination around the world.

If history is any indicator, it will only encourage resentment and tension. Nothing else.

Also a 'one for one' immigration policy for poor countries. For every one British or American person becoming a Pakistani citizen we will allow one Pakistani immigrant to become a British or American citizen.

Right, so don't allow any expansion of our workforce? Good idea.

This is also fair and will slow down immigration from poor countries and make the population growth drop.

Why would we want to slow the immigration from poor countries? They take the jobs that others won't do.

About Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinicization_of_Tibet

Losing population is not a bad thing. If Great Britain had half the people it would mean less traffic problems, cleaner air, less crowds, and more resources per person. A decreasing population is a good thing. Why are countries so obsessed with trying to increase their population through immigration? It is madness. The USA is already too crowded as well. Drive in Atlanta during rush hour and you will agree.

Take jobs others don't want. A stupid and tired argument. You mean: take jobs for a lower pay and under worse conditions versus native born people. Immigrants from poor countries equals lower wages for locals.

Many white native born people were picking fruit, building houses, and working in factories (without AC) in the 1930's. Why can't they do it now? Many native born people should just be kicked off welfare and they will happily take the crappy jobs.

The expats can petition their home govt. to change the policy. It is fair, it is about causing China to realize we are sick of them treating non-Chinese as inferior. We can play their game. Eye for an eye gains more respect than bending over and letting somebody "prove they are superior." Right now China is superior because they treat us worse than we treat them and they know it.

White flight: A concept of whites (really anybody with money) leaving bad cities and moving to suburbs. When suburbs go bad than the wealthy people (including non-whites) also move. If cities become "no-go zones" like in Malmo or Rotterdam than the whites will flee to villages. It will create a more divided and racist culture from both sides. The Europe Civil War is coming, better get ready.

I should say that some immigrants are OK. We all know (but some hate to admit) the countries that send the bad immigrants. I don't think British people are worried about the Japanese, Korean, or Chilean immigrants they are getting.

[Alice Gardens]

Genetics.

Point out to me where the Irish gene is located.

Um as much as I support racial equality, we are not 100% the same. There are slight differences between us, see my above post on chromosomal disorders and varied susceptibility to diseases among racial groups. Why would we have racism in the first place if we were 100% identical? That's just silly. Besides, most Asians I know would be confused if you suggested they were the same as someone fully Irish.

Oh and half my family is asian, as are many of my friends. Also I'm half asian so there you go.

^Yea I'm surprised not more people know about the Sinicization of Tibet. Most Europeans I talk to these days are all like "Boo America! China will be the new superpower!" I think many are so blinded by hate of the US that they don't see the flaws in other nations. Besides, China is being a total dick to Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, and India. The Senkoku/Diouyutai and South China Sea disputes, as well as China wanting to claim it's "territorial waters" are all over the news.

[Winland]

Give them a taste of their own medicine! Move to Pakistan, bring all your friends, open a pub and see how they like it!

[Alice Gardens]

Give them a taste of their own medicine! Move to Pakistan, bring all your friends, open a pub and see how they like it!

There's a strong possibility you might get killed if you support education for women...as some Pakistani ministers found out in the past year.

Oh and this
"A couple arrested in Pakistan on suspicion of killing their 15-year-old daughter with acid say they carried out the attack because she looked at a boy. The girl's father told the BBC that they feared she would bring dishonour on their family. Her mother said it was her "destiny" to die that way. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20202686

[Zaras]

A stupid and tired argument.

Just like every post you've written in this thread and a few others. Ba-dum-tish!

Many native born people should just be kicked off welfare and they will happily take the crappy jobs.

God DAMN your arguments are fucking idiotic and trying too hard to live to the "Reich" part of your name.

It is fair, it is about causing China to realize we are sick of them treating non-Chinese as inferior.

Sauce. Nao.

Eye for an eye

makes the whole world blind.

Right now China is superior because they treat us worse than we treat them and they know it.

No, it's because of their large population and economic growth.

If cities become "no-go zones" like in Malmo or Rotterdam

Hot damn this sentence is motherfucking idiotic. Could you please make an effort to actually write something intelligent instead of spouting uninformed bullshit like this?

We all know (but some hate to admit) the countries that send the bad immigrants.

Bigotry is FUN!

[Alice Gardens]

^dude could you reply in a more civil manner? I'm surprised the mods allow this kind of trash talk.

[Alice Gardens]

More Tibetan news, this is quite recent

Tibetan students protest, as four more self-immolations reported
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20506648

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Well I started reading through this thread and the OP was shown to be wrong/ignorant/lying by page 3, and then they just kept repeating the same lie over and over as if they repeat it enough it will come true or we will be magically convinced. So on page 5 I gave up - is there anything in the other 22 pages worth looking at?

my post...however unless yer a watcher of BBC cookery progs will require googling...

search.php?keywords=lorraine&t=210366&sf=msgonly

[Alice Gardens]

Well I started reading through this thread and the OP was shown to be wrong/ignorant/lying by page 3, and then they just kept repeating the same lie over and over as if they repeat it enough it will come true or we will be magically convinced. So on page 5 I gave up - is there anything in the other 22 pages worth looking at?

my post...however unless yer a watcher of BBC cookery progs will require googling...

That depends, both sides are spouting lies and biased opinions, very offensively at times. There's a bit of truth buried in here if you're willing to fish it out. Though that'd be quite tedious.

[Zaras]

^dude could you reply in a more civil manner?

I don't notice the part where I was flaming and calling the poster directly names.

[Alice Gardens]

God DAMN your arguments are fucking idiotic and trying too hard to live to the "Reich" part of your name.
Hot damn this is motherfucking idiotic. Could you please make an effort to actually write something intelligent for once?

I dunno dude, these remarks are pretty personal and unnecessary.

Ok so you're an "International Politics university student." Would you talk like this during a debate? In politics? No way. You'll get nowhere with this attitude.

[Grave_n_idle]

Largely unsubstantiated alarmist bullshit.

It is not alarmist in that Whites do face a real threat of self extinction, with few exceptions all of the majority white nations are experiencing demographic collapses while being lenient on immigration from majority non-White countries.

Here is a list of nations with significant White populations by fertility rate in 2012 per the CIA World Fact book:

Minimum fertility rate required for sustainable population: 2.1 births/woman.

USA 2.06
Russia 1.61
Brazil 2.16*
Germany 1.41
Italy 1.40
UK 1.91
Poland 1.31
Argentina 2.29*
Australia 1.77
Venezuela 2.40*
Chile 1.87
Portugal 1.51
Hungary 1.41
Cuba 1.45
Norway 1.77
South Africa 2.28*
Ireland 2.01
Croatia 1.44
Puerto Rico 1.63

As you can see from this listing, all of the countries that still have growing White populations are either majority non-White or are close to shrinking like the other traditionally White nations. Should this trend continue the White share of the global population will become smaller and smaller until they cease to exist as distinct ethnic groups.

I would very much mourn the disappearance of White ethnic groups not because they are superior, but because I find White people to be aesthetically beautiful and want them to still exist for future generations.

I shouldn't have to point this out, but countries where a 'white' population is dominant and decreasing MUST have had some period (often, probably greatly extended) where the 'white' population was expanding considerably faster than any other ethnic group in that location.

That's why you can't just look at demographic trend data in isolation. If you do, you end up with every dominantly 'white' nation having an inevitable 'genocide' coming, somewhere down the line.

(Obviously, that same thing is true in places where 'whites' are NOT the dominant population, but HAVE had some historical point where they were increasing faster than the majority).

So, yes - it IS 'alarmist' bullshit. 'Ethnic groups' increase and decrease all the time, and - unless there is concerted violence, or one group ceases to reproduce AT ALL (and it's worth noting, even Shaker communities - who DID follow a policy of non-reproduction - still increased in number, by adoption and conversion) - there's no way it equates to 'extinction' of that group.