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Postby Blakk Metal » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:17 pm

Ikarouss wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Yes it does. By definition.

Under U.N International Law and the Genocide Convention of 1945, large scale mass immigration or the replacement of an indigenous population with a foreign population is defined as genocide.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 9 December 1948 wrote:Article 2


In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:


(a) Killing members of the group;


(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;


(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;


(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;


(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:17 pm

As long as the immigrants assimilate into British culture, then I don't see what this issue is.
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Postby GCMG » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:19 pm

Blakk Metal wrote:
Ikarouss wrote:Under U.N International Law and the Genocide Convention of 1945, large scale mass immigration or the replacement of an indigenous population with a foreign population is defined as genocide.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 9 December 1948 wrote:Article 2


In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:


(a) Killing members of the group;


(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;


(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;


(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;


(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


The fifth reply beat you to it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:20 pm

So any Brit that isn't white isn't a Brit?

I have a few colleges that might argue with that.

Usually by the third generation, immigrants are full into the culture......
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:22 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:What race were the Romans?



There used to be a distinct Roman race. After years of immigration, assimilation, and mixing, they turned into Italians.

Yeah ... :lol: No. Romans were inhabitants of the city of Rome. They were Latins, inhabitants of the surrounding area, and beyond that were Italics. Their culture came down from the Bronze/Iron Age Villanovans.

They were no more a race than the present day inhabitants of Stockholm are a race.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:24 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:

There used to be a distinct Roman race. After years of immigration, assimilation, and mixing, they turned into Italians.

Yeah ... :lol: No. Romans were inhabitants of the city of Rome. They were Latins, inhabitants of the surrounding area, and beyond that were Italics. Their culture came down from the Bronze/Iron Age Villanovans.

They were no more a race than the present day inhabitants of Stockholm are a race.


Indeed. I remember flirting with a rather beautiful Chinese waitress in Stockholm.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:So any Brit that isn't white isn't a Brit?

I have a few colleges that might argue with that.

Usually by the third generation, immigrants are full into the culture......



While normally true, there are instances off second generation and even third generation immigrants feeling more loyalty to the homeland than their parents who originally immigrated. This is more prevalent in the US among Americans of Mexican descent.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:31 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So any Brit that isn't white isn't a Brit?

I have a few colleges that might argue with that.

Usually by the third generation, immigrants are full into the culture......



While normally true, there are instances off second generation and even third generation immigrants feeling more loyalty to the homeland than their parents who originally immigrated. This is more prevalent in the US among Americans of Mexican descent.


Nothing is absolute of course. On the matter of Hispanics? Well? If you are treated as a second class person, you don't exactly want to work hard on joining the society. I used to train with a guy who is from Mexico. He works hard to fit in and his three boys all born here sound like any other teenager.....

I guess it depends on the relationship of the parents. If your parents for example keep telling you life was better in Mexico, you could develop a fantasy about it......
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:34 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So any Brit that isn't white isn't a Brit?

I have a few colleges that might argue with that.

Usually by the third generation, immigrants are full into the culture......



While normally true, there are instances off second generation and even third generation immigrants feeling more loyalty to the homeland than their parents who originally immigrated. This is more prevalent in the US among Americans of Mexican descent.

Bullshit!

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:36 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:

While normally true, there are instances off second generation and even third generation immigrants feeling more loyalty to the homeland than their parents who originally immigrated. This is more prevalent in the US among Americans of Mexican descent.

Bullshit!


I was trying to be a little more polite. :D
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Bullshit!


I was trying to be a little more polite. :D

I suppose I coulda said horse hockey... but it's before lunch. :p
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Postby GCMG » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:37 pm

NERVUN wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:

While normally true, there are instances off second generation and even third generation immigrants feeling more loyalty to the homeland than their parents who originally immigrated. This is more prevalent in the US among Americans of Mexican descent.

Bullshit!


It makes sense. First generation emigrate for a reason. They then have children who have the problem of being called immigrants and have a negative experience where they are from. Thus they feel a better connection than the first generation.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:38 pm

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NERVUN wrote:Bullshit!


It makes sense. First generation emigrate for a reason. They then have children who have the problem of being called immigrants and have a negative experience where they are from. Thus they feel a better connection than the first generation.

Nah.
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:40 pm

GCMG wrote:
NERVUN wrote:Bullshit!


It makes sense. First generation emigrate for a reason. They then have children who have the problem of being called immigrants and have a negative experience where they are from. Thus they feel a better connection than the first generation.

But not borne out in ANY data.

The vast majority of immigrants assimilate within 3 generations and have more loyalty to their new homeland (Which is a silly phrase for people born in that country).

And no, there's no difference with regards to Hispanics.
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Postby GCMG » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:40 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
GCMG wrote:
It makes sense. First generation emigrate for a reason. They then have children who have the problem of being called immigrants and have a negative experience where they are from. Thus they feel a better connection than the first generation.

Nah.


Just because it doesn't match the revised facts it doesn't mean it wasn't a good theory with the old facts.
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:41 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Nah.


Just because it doesn't match the revised facts it doesn't mean it wasn't a good theory with the old facts.

So... it's bullshit.
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NERVUN wrote:
GCMG wrote:
It makes sense. First generation emigrate for a reason. They then have children who have the problem of being called immigrants and have a negative experience where they are from. Thus they feel a better connection than the first generation.

But not borne out in ANY data.

The vast majority of immigrants assimilate within 3 generations and have more loyalty to their new homeland (Which is a silly phrase for people born in that country).

And no, there's no difference with regards to Hispanics.


See immediately below this quoted post and possibly just above this one.
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Postby Zonolia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:41 pm

And now to quote myself...“Conservatism; because going backwards is progress”

Anyways, whites being a minority...so...?...
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:42 pm

GCMG wrote:
NERVUN wrote:But not borne out in ANY data.

The vast majority of immigrants assimilate within 3 generations and have more loyalty to their new homeland (Which is a silly phrase for people born in that country).

And no, there's no difference with regards to Hispanics.


See immediately below this quoted post and possibly just above this one.

If something doesn't jive with the facts, it doesn't matter HOW good it sounds. The GOP thought that their polling data sounded good, they still lost the general election.
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Postby GCMG » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:43 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
GCMG wrote:
Just because it doesn't match the revised facts it doesn't mean it wasn't a good theory with the old facts.

So... it's bullshit.


This is why I needed a "possibly". Which is really all that I need to say unless I want to keep repeating a post I've already made... which is this one. Frankly I don't see the need for this quoted post.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:43 pm

Socialist States Owen wrote:Largely unsubstantiated alarmist bullshit.


It is not alarmist in that Whites do face a real threat of self extinction, with few exceptions all of the majority white nations are experiencing demographic collapses while being lenient on immigration from majority non-White countries.

Here is a list of nations with significant White populations by fertility rate in 2012 per the CIA World Fact book:

Minimum fertility rate required for sustainable population: 2.1 births/woman.

USA 2.06
Russia 1.61
Brazil 2.16*
Germany 1.41
Italy 1.40
UK 1.91
Poland 1.31
Argentina 2.29*
Australia 1.77
Venezuela 2.40*
Chile 1.87
Portugal 1.51
Hungary 1.41
Cuba 1.45
Norway 1.77
South Africa 2.28*
Ireland 2.01
Croatia 1.44
Puerto Rico 1.63

As you can see from this listing, all of the countries that still have growing White populations are either majority non-White or are close to shrinking like the other traditionally White nations. Should this trend continue the White share of the global population will become smaller and smaller until they cease to exist as distinct ethnic groups.

I would very much mourn the disappearance of White ethnic groups not because they are superior, but because I find White people to be aesthetically beautiful and want them to still exist for future generations.
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Postby Sardine World » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:44 pm

why dont we just go back to the days where a large white family was celebrated

problem solved
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Postby Chefdevergia » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:45 pm

Ikarouss wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Yes it does. By definition.

Under U.N International Law and the Genocide Convention of 1945, large scale mass immigration or the replacement of an indigenous population with a foreign population is defined as genocide.



Wow, you have said it so many times that you MUST be right. Count me as convinced!

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Postby GCMG » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:46 pm

NERVUN wrote:
GCMG wrote:
See immediately below this quoted post and possibly just above this one.

If something doesn't jive with the facts, it doesn't matter HOW good it sounds. The GOP thought that their polling data sounded good, they still lost the general election.


And I never said it was. All I said was that it worked as an explanation before and not afterwards. What is the need to tell me what I have just said in this thread?
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Postby Miyager » Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:47 pm

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

Not only are birth rates in the main source of immigration to Europe (The Middle East) gonna fall, but so are birth rates among the immigrants once they arrive in Europe.

And not only that, I should say don't worry, people think ignorantly like you. If immigration gets too "bad", governments gets voted in and stop it. By the time the laws are repealed, no one cares about moving there anymore.
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