the BBC once said salmond has much less power than an american governer but i'm not sure how true that is
there is a lot they can't control and we end up with "man, the energy situation sucks!" "do something" "we can't". also lol trident.
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by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:04 pm

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:05 pm
Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Nationalist State of Knox wrote:And your point is...?
That you can't just make an absolute statement that the Picts were distinct racially from the Britons. Such a statement can be true only in the context of a specific constructed race continuum (which you haven't bothered to state), and in the context of other continuua it may be patently false.
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:05 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:You just have an aura of Anti-English about u. have u considered that maybe Britain run by the brits would be better.
does this mean you're against devolution, then?or should we go for glasgow run by the glasweigans. u can go to massive scale or tiny scale
yes, you can, which is why THEN WHY SOHULDN'T YORK BE INDEPENDENT is a ridiculous retort and you should get eaten up by the euro super state

by Varijnland » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:07 pm
by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:07 pm

by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:07 pm
by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:08 pm

by Tyrants » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:09 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Indeed it is. This guy has just seen braveheart once to often
i think i might name it souseisekis law. you see, whoever mentions braveheart in relation to their opponent first loses all credibility.
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by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:10 pm
Kilgrammie wrote:Lenehen wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but isn't that what the Scottish Parliment is for?
The Current set up has Limited powers & funds given to us by Westminster. Nationalists would prefer full control of ALL of our resourses & tax raised so we can choose what we spend it on for example rather than waste it on nukes & rusty subs we could spend it more wisley on say something like a hospital ( quite a few)![]()
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We could also have our own immigration policy as our country in comparison to England & Wales is some what underpopulated.

by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:11 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Varijnland wrote:Unfortunately an all too common occurence
"Scotland is not oppressed and we have no need to be liberated. Independence matters because we do not have the powers to reach our potential. We are limited in what we can to create jobs, grow the economy and help the vulnerable."
by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:12 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Souseiseki wrote:"Scotland is not oppressed and we have no need to be liberated. Independence matters because we do not have the powers to reach our potential. We are limited in what we can to create jobs, grow the economy and help the vulnerable."
i doubt SNP would allow heavy immigration, they are Nationalists

by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:15 pm


by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:16 pm

by Angleter » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:16 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Lenehen wrote:
Forgive my ignorance but isn't that what the Scottish Parliment is for?
the BBC once said salmond has much less power than an american governer but i'm not sure how true that is
there is a lot they can't control and we end up with "man, the energy situation sucks!" "do something" "we can't". also lol trident.

by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:18 pm
Kilgrammie wrote:LOL... indeed the seen Braveheart to often slur is the bottom of the barrel.![]()
It's not even historically accurate for starters![]()
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I simply have the audacity to believe my country could do better as an Independent nation, we could then have the luxury of a goverment that scots voted for.

by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:20 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Kilgrammie wrote:
The Current set up has Limited powers & funds given to us by Westminster. Nationalists would prefer full control of ALL of our resourses & tax raised so we can choose what we spend it on for example rather than waste it on nukes & rusty subs we could spend it more wisley on say something like a hospital ( quite a few)![]()
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We could also have our own immigration policy as our country in comparison to England & Wales is some what underpopulated.
Thats a good thing. we dont want to have to many ouths to feed and to many people to provide with energy in the future

by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:21 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Souseiseki wrote:is this based on what they've actually said or secret leaked documents, or the fact they have "national" in their name?
They are for the scottish people, not foreign people. Also can i ask how would it be decided if you shall have scottish or New UK citizenship??? It would be pretty complex and im sure people would decide to move before laws were passed to the other side of the border vice versa

by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:22 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Kilgrammie wrote:LOL... indeed the seen Braveheart to often slur is the bottom of the barrel.![]()
It's not even historically accurate for starters![]()
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I simply have the audacity to believe my country could do better as an Independent nation, we could then have the luxury of a goverment that scots voted for.
Im going to break this to you....... Scotland does elect its statisticly correct number of MPs into Westminister. We also elect 100% into hollyrood. Now for england they basicly have a random bunch of scots deciding on half their stuff.


by Free South Califas » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:22 pm
Angleter wrote:US governors raise their own taxes (as much as they like, and in whatever form they like)
by Souseiseki » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:23 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Kilgrammie wrote:LOL... indeed the seen Braveheart to often slur is the bottom of the barrel.![]()
It's not even historically accurate for starters![]()
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I simply have the audacity to believe my country could do better as an Independent nation, we could then have the luxury of a goverment that scots voted for.
Im going to break this to you....... Scotland does elect its statisticly correct number of MPs into Westminister. We also elect 100% into hollyrood. Now for england they basicly have a random bunch of scots deciding on half their stuff.

by Nova Imperius » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:24 pm
Kilgrammie wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Thats a good thing. we dont want to have to many ouths to feed and to many people to provide with energy in the future
So here you so obviously want to close the gates to more people . but yet you say as i'm an nationalist I would be against immigrants?? Mhhhhhh![]()
Sorry to disappoint but my wife is Chinese, as I've already said my mate is english think i'm kinda open minded on that one.

by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:26 pm
Souseiseki wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Im going to break this to you....... Scotland does elect its statisticly correct number of MPs into Westminister. We also elect 100% into hollyrood. Now for england they basicly have a random bunch of scots deciding on half their stuff.
usually the SNP don't vote on england only matters, what a bunch! maybe england should run their own country too. mmmm.


by Kilgrammie » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:28 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Kilgrammie wrote:
So here you so obviously want to close the gates to more people . but yet you say as i'm an nationalist I would be against immigrants?? Mhhhhhh![]()
Sorry to disappoint but my wife is Chinese, as I've already said my mate is english think i'm kinda open minded on that one.
Still it is fact that it is easier to sustain less people internaly in scotland than more. We are to small a nation to open borders fully and really dont need it. We have an equivelant population to Norway and they are doing just fine

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