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Postby Immoren » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:32 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:[He compares the Quran with Mein Kampf and has campaigned to have the book banned in the Netherlands.


Is he too stupid to realise the irony of comparing something to Mein Kampf and then calling for it to be banned?


They never do.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:39 am

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Is he too stupid to realise the irony of comparing something to Mein Kampf and then calling for it to be banned?


They never do.


I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mien_Kampf

In the Netherlands, selling the book, even in the case of an old copy, may be illegal as "promoting hatred," but possession and lending is not. The matter is generally handled as a matter of copyright infringement against the Dutch government, which owns the translation, though it refuses to allow any publishing. In 1997, the government explained to the parliament that selling a scientifically annotated version might escape prosecution. In 2015, the government's copyright on the Dutch translation becomes void.
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Postby Jafas United » Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:53 am

No, don't be silly. Looking that far ahead is just absurd. There are just too many variables to make any predictions of that kind.

That said, Amsterdam now has a majority non-Dutch population. So I could be wrong.

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Postby Juristonia » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:10 am

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Immoren wrote:
They never do.


I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mien_Kampf

In the Netherlands, selling the book, even in the case of an old copy, may be illegal as "promoting hatred," but possession and lending is not. The matter is generally handled as a matter of copyright infringement against the Dutch government, which owns the translation, though it refuses to allow any publishing. In 1997, the government explained to the parliament that selling a scientifically annotated version might escape prosecution. In 2015, the government's copyright on the Dutch translation becomes void.


In other words, it's not banned at all. The government just chose not to publish the translated version they legally own the rights to.
You can get the non-translated version in pretty much every book store worth its salt and I got the English version from the local library without any issues whatsoever.
So this is really just more hyperbole from your end, but that's not surprising, I guess.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:40 am

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Immoren wrote:
They never do.


I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.


Because freedom of/from religion is a far better idea than any of the intolerant nonsense that Wilders spouts.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:30 am

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Immoren wrote:
They never do.


I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mien_Kampf

In the Netherlands, selling the book, even in the case of an old copy, may be illegal as "promoting hatred," but possession and lending is not. The matter is generally handled as a matter of copyright infringement against the Dutch government, which owns the translation, though it refuses to allow any publishing. In 1997, the government explained to the parliament that selling a scientifically annotated version might escape prosecution. In 2015, the government's copyright on the Dutch translation becomes void.


So in reality it isn't banned, if you can own it without a problem and even lend it around. It also says nothing about purchasing the book from outside the normal system (like using the internet).

If, in regards to sales, the matter is handled as a matter of copyright infringement then it wont be illegal for "prompting hatred". It'll be illegal like popping down to a market and buying pirated DVDs.

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Postby Zaras » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:20 am

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Flaxxony-Setram wrote:I think he actually still thinks, deep deep down, that there is something genetically better (ie. intèllect) about white people

I am going to call his next argument: "well if white people industrialized first doesn't that mean something's genetically better?" Or "whitishness is recessive so it needs to be protected"

Get real


Personally I think it's geography. Probably resource related. I doubt it had anything to do with race. Europeans just got lucky and made the best weapons earliest.


Or they just managed to get super-lucky with geographic distribution of crops and diseases, like Jared Diamond argues in Guns, Germs and Steel.
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Postby Zaras » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:25 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:He is an intelligent and practical man.


No, he's an idiot.

He is not racist,


Okay, yes, he's technically anti-Islam, but given that so many Muslims in Netherlands are non-white, you can see the obvious implication.

he simply recognizes a group of people that hate all non-believers and want them to either convert or die.


But he's too fucking moronic to tell the difference between Salafists/radical Islamists and normal Muslims. Classic bigotry.

Once the hate group members get the majority than the Netherlands will fall under sharia law and will be Saudi Arabia North.


Don't tell me you believe this fearmongering bullshit too! This is idiotic as all hell.

Geert Wilders does not hate all immigrants


Only those who have the nerve to be Muslims! :roll:

Look up Muhammed. He was not the gentle and peaceful man that most liberals seem to think he was.


Newsflash: I don't care. That was millennia ago. Look up the Torah or Bible. There's plenty of bloodthirsty shit in both of them.

Wilders is best known for his criticism of Islam, summing up his views by saying, "I don't hate Muslims, I hate Islam".[5]


That's like saying, "I don't hate Jews, I hate Judaism."

He compares the Quran with Mein Kampf and has campaigned to have the book banned in the Netherlands.


So, yes, he is an ignorant fucking cunt.
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Postby Zaras » Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:25 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.


So does the Bible. Banned that recently?
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Postby Pesda » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:08 pm

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Pesda wrote:Why do you even care? There's been immigration into and around this island for millenia.

See also: Almost everywhere on Earth. People did not spontaneously appear in what is now the US, or Germany, or South Africa, or China, or New Zealand. Humans emerged somewhere in Africa(maybe) and we migrated from there to everywhere else. Every single person complaining about immigrants is themselves descended from African(maybe) migrants, they just pretend that their immigrant history is so far distant as to not matter any more. Which is obviously bollocks.


That's also true.
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Postby Free South Califas » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:31 pm

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Postby United Districts of 1 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:04 pm

These dark-skinned colonials are coming to our land and slowing push us out of it through non-violent means, holy crap its almost like WHAT THE BRITISH DID FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS. Calm your pasty face, it's their country also.
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Postby Dilange » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:09 pm

Does anyone view this a bad thing?

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Dilange wrote:Does anyone view this a bad thing?

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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:10 pm

Dilange wrote:Does anyone view this a bad thing?


I don't, and I'm a white Briton.
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:10 pm

Dilange wrote:Does anyone view this a bad thing?


Not on this forum.
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Postby Tyrants » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 pm

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Freiheit Reich wrote:I don't think it should be banned (even though it is an evil book). However, the Netherlands likes to ban books they think are evil so why not ban the Quran as well? Both promote hate and intolerance.


The Bible:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him . . . and all the men of his city shall stone him with stones that he die. Deut. 21:18-21

Happy shall he be who taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. Psalms 137:9

Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men shall stone her with stones that she die. Psalms 137:9

Mostly stoning. Quite hateful and intolerant.
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Postby Dilange » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:13 pm

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Dilange wrote:Does anyone view this a bad thing?

Nick Griffin.


Hes going to start the British version of the Ku Klux Klan or Nazi Germany someday.

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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:14 pm

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Napkiraly wrote:Nick Griffin.


Hes going to start the British version of the Ku Klux Klan or Nazi Germany someday.


It's called the BNP.
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Postby Snowhelm » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:15 pm

Jafas United wrote:No, don't be silly. Looking that far ahead is just absurd. There are just too many variables to make any predictions of that kind.

That said, Amsterdam now has a majority non-Dutch population. So I could be wrong.

Really? I don't even notice honestly.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:15 pm

I already mentioned once in another thread that, according to an article I can't seem to find now, that the birth rates of racial minorities in Britain (that is, not white Britons) were already slowly decreasing, and that it is expected that, in the following decades, it will have dropped to the same levels amongst white Britons, leading to a stabilization in the racial makeup of British society, with white Britons still being an overwhelming mayority.
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Dilange wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Nick Griffin.


Hes going to start the British version of the Ku Klux Klan or Nazi Germany someday.


With evil morris dancing suits and evil bowler hats. Drinking their evil tea. Eating their evil crumpets.

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:17 pm

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Dilange wrote:Does anyone view this a bad thing?


I don't, and I'm a white Briton.

Britons no longer exist as a distinct race.
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Postby Kleomentia » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:18 pm

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I don't, and I'm a white Briton.

Britons no longer exist as a distinct race.

To be fair, no race exists. Since every race has at least 40% of other races in their DNA. *nods*
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