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by The Emerald Dawn » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:34 pm
by Souseiseki » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:35 pm

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:35 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:75% of scotland wants to remain in the UK.
Then they'll just have to vote for it.Also the clan system still exists. My Greatx3 grand-daddy was Lord Norman Magnus Macleod of Macleod. Lord of the isle of Skye. sadly im not lord of skye
It might still exist, but it was heavily repressed by the British government after the Jacobite rebellion in Scotland, especially in the Highlands. I think the English even banned wearing kilts at one point, though probably not playing the bagpipes or eating haggis.

by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:35 pm
The whole topic was kinda stupid to begin with anyway. I think most of what needed to be said has been said, the rest is just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:36 pm

by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:37 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Zaras wrote:
Then they'll just have to vote for it.
It might still exist, but it was heavily repressed by the British government after the Jacobite rebellion in Scotland, especially in the Highlands. I think the English even banned wearing kilts at one point, though probably not playing the bagpipes or eating haggis.
Well currently half the british army wear kilts as military dress.
remember the british government is scotland also.
we werent like a colony.
scotland had a great time then to. ever heard of the steam engine, telephone, tv, penacillin, bicycle, etc. etc.
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:40 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Well currently half the british army wear kilts as military dress.remember the british government is scotland also.
But devolution is only a recent thing. Before that, the government in London basically did everything with not too much local say in their policies.we werent like a colony.
Again, devolution in Wales and Scotland is a recent thing.scotland had a great time then to. ever heard of the steam engine, telephone, tv, penacillin, bicycle, etc. etc.
Of course, but those don't really change the historical fact that Scotland and Wales were quite mistreated by England in the past. Remember back when children caught speaking Welsh in school would be beaten?


by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:41 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:well no... i dont remember. Anyway my personal reserched family history of life in scotland doesnt seem to bad. a lot of opertunity. also we get more money from the government in scotland than we pay in tax. england doesnt like us
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:44 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:well no... i dont remember. Anyway my personal reserched family history of life in scotland doesnt seem to bad. a lot of opertunity. also we get more money from the government in scotland than we pay in tax. england doesnt like us
They feel threatened by your bagpipes, shortbread tin and Irn Bru.

by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:46 pm
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Czechanada » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:51 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Zaras wrote:
Then they'll just have to vote for it.
It might still exist, but it was heavily repressed by the British government after the Jacobite rebellion in Scotland, especially in the Highlands. I think the English even banned wearing kilts at one point, though probably not playing the bagpipes or eating haggis.
Well currently half the british army wear kilts as military dress. remember the british government is scotland also. we werent like a colony. scotland had a great time then to. ever heard of the steam engine, telephone, tv, penacillin, bicycle, etc. etc.

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:52 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Of course. and our bush like ginger hair that clogs up their drains. If were going down this trail i better ask if u currently have garlic, holy water, and a wooden steak on u???
And I'll ask you to quit that shite. I've heard enough terrible jokes about vampirism, and frankly I'm sick of them. They're uncreative and annoying.

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:52 pm
Czechanada wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Well currently half the british army wear kilts as military dress. remember the british government is scotland also. we werent like a colony. scotland had a great time then to. ever heard of the steam engine, telephone, tv, penacillin, bicycle, etc. etc.
Technically, the TV belongs to Russia.

by Salandriagado » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:54 pm

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:56 pm
Salandriagado wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Im related....... (ur going to virtually kill me for this)... to the plantagenet english kings directly aswell as the Kings of France through King Edward I. so im very biased and will support the full uk
So when you say that the UK has been culturally isolated for centuries, you are forgetting your ancestors?
Like, say, William I (French), William II (French), Henry I (Belgian wife, Belgian mother), Stephen (French, French wife), Henry II (French, with a French wife), Richard I (Spanish wife, French mother), John (French mother, French wife), Henry III (French wife, French mother), Edward I (Spanish and French wives, French mother), Edward II (Spanish mother, French wife), Edward III (French mother, Belgian wife), Richard II (Bohemian and French wives), Henry IV (married a French woman and a Spaniard), Henry V (French wife), Henry VI (French mother, French wife), Henry VIII (married a Spaniard and a German), Mary (married a Spaniard, Spanish mother), James I (married a Dane), Charles I (Danish mother, French wife), Charles II (French mother, Portuguese wife), James II (French mother, married an Italian), William III (Dutch), Anne (married a Dane), George I (son of two people that would today be described as Germans, married another German), George II (married another German), George III (German mother, married a German), George IV (German mother, married a German), William IV (German mother, married a German), Victoria (German mother, married a German), Edward VII (German father, married a Dane), George V (Danish mother, married a German), Edward VIII (German mother, married an American), and George VI (Danish mother).
(NB: I have mostly assigned nationalities based on the modern-day countries covering the cities of their birth, except where this would cause confusion).
So, that's the vast majority of every king/queen of England/Britain since 1066 with either a foreign spouse, a foreign birth place or a foreign parent. In fact, Elizabeth II is the first in several centuries not to have either herself or a parent born outside the UK.
anyway the rest are all politicians, dukes, lords, heads of the east india company, inventors, crooks, and then me 
by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:57 pm

by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:57 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Zaras wrote:
And I'll ask you to quit that shite. I've heard enough terrible jokes about vampirism, and frankly I'm sick of them. They're uncreative and annoying.
Ah ok. well WE dont particularly like the kilt, bagpipes, cottages, braveheart reputation either. People forget all our achievements and great people.
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Eastfield Lodge » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:58 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Salandriagado wrote:
So when you say that the UK has been culturally isolated for centuries, you are forgetting your ancestors?
Like, say, William I (French), William II (French), Henry I (Belgian wife, Belgian mother), Stephen (French, French wife), Henry II (French, with a French wife), Richard I (Spanish wife, French mother), John (French mother, French wife), Henry III (French wife, French mother), Edward I (Spanish and French wives, French mother), Edward II (Spanish mother, French wife), Edward III (French mother, Belgian wife), Richard II (Bohemian and French wives), Henry IV (married a French woman and a Spaniard), Henry V (French wife), Henry VI (French mother, French wife), Henry VIII (married a Spaniard and a German), Mary (married a Spaniard, Spanish mother), James I (married a Dane), Charles I (Danish mother, French wife), Charles II (French mother, Portuguese wife), James II (French mother, married an Italian), William III (Dutch), Anne (married a Dane), George I (son of two people that would today be described as Germans, married another German), George II (married another German), George III (German mother, married a German), George IV (German mother, married a German), William IV (German mother, married a German), Victoria (German mother, married a German), Edward VII (German father, married a Dane), George V (Danish mother, married a German), Edward VIII (German mother, married an American), and George VI (Danish mother).
(NB: I have mostly assigned nationalities based on the modern-day countries covering the cities of their birth, except where this would cause confusion).
So, that's the vast majority of every king/queen of England/Britain since 1066 with either a foreign spouse, a foreign birth place or a foreign parent. In fact, Elizabeth II is the first in several centuries not to have either herself or a parent born outside the UK.
no i only come in at edward III. See the change of house bumped me from the throneanyway the rest are all politicians, dukes, lords, heads of the east india company, inventors, crooks, and then me

by Eastfield Lodge » Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:59 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Ah ok. well WE dont particularly like the kilt, bagpipes, cottages, braveheart reputation either. People forget all our achievements and great people.
Well, I only mentioned bagpipes as a joke, and shortbread tin and Irn Bru aren't exactly that famous stereotypes. Or you drink Red Kola instead?
I doubt the English like their terrible teeth, emotionally repressed, unwarranted superiority, drunken football hooligan stereotypes either.

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:00 pm
Zaras wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:Ah ok. well WE dont particularly like the kilt, bagpipes, cottages, braveheart reputation either. People forget all our achievements and great people.
Well, I only mentioned bagpipes as a joke, and shortbread tin and Irn Bru aren't exactly that famous stereotypes. Or you drink Red Kola instead?
I doubt the English like their terrible teeth, emotionally repressed, unwarranted superiority, drunken football hooligan stereotypes either.

by Salandriagado » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:00 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:oh yes and William the conquerer was scandanavian. Normandy was a viking principality
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:no i only come in at edward III. See the change of house bumped me from the throneanyway the rest are all politicians, dukes, lords, heads of the east india company, inventors, crooks, and then me
You can trace you ancestry back to the middle ages? Blimey, I'd love to do that.

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:02 pm
Salandriagado wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:oh yes and William the conquerer was scandanavian. Normandy was a viking principality
Read my note. William the Conqueror was born in Château de Falaise, in modern-day France. I had to pick between listing loads of tiny, long vanished states that nobody would have heard of or just using the modern names, and I went for the latter.

by Salandriagado » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:03 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:Salandriagado wrote:
Read my note. William the Conqueror was born in Château de Falaise, in modern-day France. I had to pick between listing loads of tiny, long vanished states that nobody would have heard of or just using the modern names, and I went for the latter.
i suppose. missed the note. Anyway as someone said to avoid inbreeding u need to branch out

by Zaras » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:04 pm
Nova Imperius wrote:have u ever heard of the old firm, Rangers v Celtic. now thats the worst violence in the UK.
Also scotland feels superior to england. we feel superior to the people who feel superior. well the english do have bad teeth.
Eastfield Lodge wrote:You can trace you ancestry back to the middle ages? Blimey, I'd love to do that.
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Zaras wrote:
Well, I only mentioned bagpipes as a joke, and shortbread tin and Irn Bru aren't exactly that famous stereotypes. Or you drink Red Kola instead?
I doubt the English like their terrible teeth, emotionally repressed, unwarranted superiority, drunken football hooligan stereotypes either.
First time I've ever heard the first three really, and I'm English (OK, second generation immigrant from Pakistan, but who cares about that anyways?).
Bythyrona wrote:Zaras wrote:Democratic People's Republic of Glorious Misty Mountain Hop.
The bat in the middle commemmorates their crushing victory in the bloody Battle of Evermore, where the Communists were saved at the last minute by General "Black Dog" Bonham of the Rock 'n Roll Brigade detonating a levee armed with only four sticks and flooding the enemy encampment. He later retired with honours and went to live in California for the rest of his life before ascending to heaven.
Best post I've seen on NS since I've been here. :clap:

by Nova Imperius » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:05 pm
Salandriagado wrote:Nova Imperius wrote:i suppose. missed the note. Anyway as someone said to avoid inbreeding u need to branch out
It's not like there has ever been a shortage of English nobles. The point here is that the UK has never been isolated to anything like the degree that you are claiming. Ever. At all.
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