White Britons to be minority IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY by 2066

[Nova Imperius]

Right, time for a bullshit stomping session.


I grew up in Leicester. Yes, Leicester, and in one of the more culturally diverse areas of that city at that. I'd say that makes me about as qualified as anybody to speak about the effects of demographic shifts of this type as anybody else.

So, these effects. There are basically none. Literally, nothing. The sole impacts were:
1) Really good takeaways. Seriously, properly good.
2) Really cheap fireworks/alcohol/everything if you went shopping right after Diwali (that is: immediately before bonfire night, a fair chunk of the time).


That's about it. No rampant hordes of white people without jobs on the streets, no "cultural and ethical takeover" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean), no takeover of the city, no genocide. Nothing at all, in fact.

As an addition to 1), having just moved to Manchester, I have found myself living right next to shops that sell various Indian sweets.

This one feature of one tiny import from a small proportion of immigrants vastly outweighs any opposition anyone could ever have to immigration.

Vastly.

but if u said that a Chippy was like a foreign take-away and that tiny import was common what would u say???

[DesAnges]

were talking bout the future. i just think that people shouldnt see a chippy as a foreign food take-away. im actually quite happy with that comparisson

Same thing will be true in the future.
And chips were a foreign concept introduced into the UK from Belgium.

Belgium, I knew something about my post was wrong but I wasn't sure what. I thought it was the year.

[Zaras]

Oh yes when germany brought in a republic they had someone after 15 years in power, Adolf Hitler.

Germany was a republic between 1918-1933 and since 1949. Way to miss the point.

Then finally after another 50 years of communism and fear they became a democratic republic.

Quit posting stupid shit. East Germany wasn't communist, it was a Stalinist shithole. And West Germany was democratic since 1949, so your point once again fails.

Oh thinking of good beginnings.... USA as a republic enslaved 3 million black people, eastern europes nations become republics post war and !BAM! a culture of communism and fear is adopted.

Cease this idiotic motherfuckery forthwith. Eastern Europe was full of Stalinist Soviet satellites. There was no real communism.

French Republic a dictator called Napoleon rises to power.

Napoleon, dictatorship aside, has enormously helped Europe by spreading the ideals of the French Revolution in a way that bit him in the arse and gave us the Napoleonic Code which just about all of continental Europe's civil codes have been based on and influenced by. Don't compare him to Hitler.

African nations become republics in the 1960s era and then they are under dictators for the most part.

Because the USA and the West pushed them into that in the name of denying Soviets influence.

Monarchies - Japan

Took over Korea imperialistically, committed enormous crimes in WW2 - Unit 731, the Rape of Nanking, etc.

UK,

Too many colonialist crimes, atrocities and genocidal actions to even start counting.

Australia,

Racist fuckheads who kept the White Australia policy until 1973, only passed the Racial Discrimination Act in 1975, and only formally apologised to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Island inhabitants of Australia for the Stolen Generations in 2008.

Norway

Mistreated and discriminated against the Sami until the 1960s-1970s.

Belgium,

Three words: Congo Free State. Also guilty for worsening Hutu-Tutsi relations in Rwanda.

Sweden,

Abolished mandatory sterilisation policies in 1976.

Denmark,

The drunken buffoon of Scandinavia and the World.

Australia,

You said Australia twice!

Spain,

Committed genocide against South American native inhabitants.

Canada

Took too long to start treating First Nations people like humans.

So, yeah, cut the crap. No country's perfect, so don't pretend monarchies are somehow better than republics.

[Grave_n_idle]

Are you forgetting about the Native Americans? The Europeans decimated their race and took over their land so it seems only fitting that this time around someone takes the Europeans land.

Etho-nationalism is NOT cool no matter were it is, all nations could learn from American nationalism. People of all colors and ethnicity live in the US and to be American doesn't mean you must be white but rather anyone born here is one of us.

Right now North America and Europe are the places where migrant workers want to be but in a few decades South America and Asia will be where all the migrant workers wish to go. After Asia and South America decline I theorize that Africa will be the next hot spot for migrant workers. With all the money, business, and people going into Africa from China I wouldn't be surprised if Africa had a significant Chinese population in the next 50 years.

U cannot compare UK to USA. USA is ust one bunch of immigrants from the seeable past. U will say Uk is all immigrants but thats going back thousands of years and being segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture. USA is a mixing pot, we arent. also i agree with the initial post there

I have no idea... please tell me you're texting this in on your phone?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Are you forgetting about the Native Americans? The Europeans decimated their race and took over their land so it seems only fitting that this time around someone takes the Europeans land.

Etho-nationalism is NOT cool no matter were it is, all nations could learn from American nationalism. People of all colors and ethnicity live in the US and to be American doesn't mean you must be white but rather anyone born here is one of us.

Right now North America and Europe are the places where migrant workers want to be but in a few decades South America and Asia will be where all the migrant workers wish to go. After Asia and South America decline I theorize that Africa will be the next hot spot for migrant workers. With all the money, business, and people going into Africa from China I wouldn't be surprised if Africa had a significant Chinese population in the next 50 years.

U cannot compare UK to USA.

Says the person using Nazi Germany as an example of why republics don't work.

USA is ust one bunch of immigrants from the seeable past.

That isn't English.

U will say Uk is all immigrants but thats going back thousands of years and being segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture.

You are aware, right, that the UK was invaded repeatedly up until after 1066, giving it Celtic, Nordic, French, Germanic and Latin influences, and since then has been enriched over centuries by immigrants from across the world?

USA is a mixing pot, we arent.

Got any more obvious truths to deny?

[Camelza]

Technically, chips are a foreign food. Fried potatoes and fish was first made by the French in around 1700, from memory - before that, the English ate fish with roasted potatoes.

Not for very long, either. Potatoes are an import - they weren't native.

At least they had eel stew!

[Zaras]

There's Lebanese Christians, so quit failing down that path.

Second, it depends on the branch of Islam. Some branches accept the Hadith and Quran, others just the Quran etc.

Excuse me but you asked what values MUSLIMS have. Are Lebanese Christians MUSLIMS? Do you need a dictionary?

You said I was implying all Arabs are Muslims, and I pointed out that not all Arabs are Muslims.

[Napkiraly]

U cannot compare UK to USA. USA is ust one bunch of immigrants from the seeable past. U will say Uk is all immigrants but thats going back thousands of years and being segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture. USA is a mixing pot, we arent. also i agree with the initial post there

Your grasp of history is seriously getting worse and worse the further this thread goes on.

Should we be surprised though? Probably not.

[Kleomentia]

U cannot compare UK to USA. USA is ust one bunch of immigrants from the seeable past. U will say Uk is all immigrants but thats going back thousands of years and being segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture. USA is a mixing pot, we arent. also i agree with the initial post there

Your grasp of history is seriously getting worse and worse the further this thread goes on.

Please dont stop him now. Its getting to the fun part.

[Dinahia]

segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture.

Learn history.

[DesAnges]

As an addition to 1), having just moved to Manchester, I have found myself living right next to shops that sell various Indian sweets.

This one feature of one tiny import from a small proportion of immigrants vastly outweighs any opposition anyone could ever have to immigration.

Vastly.

but if u said that a Chippy was like a foreign take-away and that tiny import was common what would u say???

I'd say score, top quality Indian sweets and I can still have my chips.

[Zaras]

It would be a sign of progress for humanity, finally.

And against everything the UN stands for, which is protecting the different peoples of the globe and their ways of life.

These don't really have anything to do with ethnicity, but more with culture.

[Grave_n_idle]

Not for very long, either. Potatoes are an import - they weren't native.

At least they had eel stew!

Eels up inside yer, finding an entrance where they can.

*nods*

[Salandriagado]

Right, time for a bullshit stomping session.


I grew up in Leicester. Yes, Leicester, and in one of the more culturally diverse areas of that city at that. I'd say that makes me about as qualified as anybody to speak about the effects of demographic shifts of this type as anybody else.

So, these effects. There are basically none. Literally, nothing. The sole impacts were:
1) Really good takeaways. Seriously, properly good.
2) Really cheap fireworks/alcohol/everything if you went shopping right after Diwali (that is: immediately before bonfire night, a fair chunk of the time).


That's about it. No rampant hordes of white people without jobs on the streets, no "cultural and ethical takeover" (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean), no takeover of the city, no genocide. Nothing at all, in fact.

were talking bout the future. i just think that people shouldnt see a chippy as a foreign food take-away. im actually quite happy with that comparisson

This is the future, so far as you're concerned. The area I grew up in has been <50% white British for decades. The net impact: one carnival a year in the middle of the city, some nice takeaways/restaurants/shops, and that's it. You are worrying about something that simply is not happening.


Besides which, if you fancy worrying about British culture, when was the last time you smeared yourself with woad? Or worshipped Nodens? British culture has been absorbing every culture around it for millennia, and I see no reason to stop now.

[Zaras]

Isnt Romania currently a Republic???? Its very corrupt isnt it??

It's been a republic since 1946, and yes, it's ruled by shitheads. I'm not happy about it. But Iceland and Finland are republics, so shut up with the idiocy about republics being inferior to monarchies.

[Nova Imperius]

U cannot compare UK to USA. USA is ust one bunch of immigrants from the seeable past. U will say Uk is all immigrants but thats going back thousands of years and being segrigated from the world until a few centuries ago to develop a unique culture. USA is a mixing pot, we arent. also i agree with the initial post there

Your grasp of history is seriously getting worse and worse the further this thread goes on.

i was going between saying dates such as 1066 or ust using the easy option. Well was there much immigration and mixing of culture in 15th century britain to adapt it much. for example scotland and england are far more similar than england and france

[DesAnges]

At least they had eel stew!

Eels up inside yer, finding an entrance where they can.

*nods*

[Zaras]

You are comparing past republics to modern day constitutional monarchies in order to prove your point?

Ok current day African Republics such as Zimbabwe. Im just proving that history repeats itself. Im sure they would have said the same thing about napoleonic france as Nazi Germany was about to form. History repeats

For fuck's sake, Zimbabwe isn't a shithole because it's a republic, it's a shithole because of Mugabe!

Which is my exact point. At least in a democratic republic you have a way of getting rid of your head of state if he sucks. But not in a constitutional monarchy - you're stuck with an idiot monarch for life.

[Nova Imperius]

Isnt Romania currently a Republic???? Its very corrupt isnt it??

It's been a republic since 1946, and yes, it's ruled by shitheads. I'm not happy about it. But Iceland and Finland are republics, so shut up with the idiocy about republics being inferior to monarchies.

Iceland and Finland pretty good places........ very similar to sweden, denmark, and norway. both former monarchies there not inferior just not as successful

[Salandriagado]

Your grasp of history is seriously getting worse and worse the further this thread goes on.

i was going between saying dates such as 1066 or ust using the easy option. Well was there much immigration and mixing of culture in 15th century britain to adapt it much.

Yes.

for example scotland and england are far more similar than england and france

I take it you've never been to Scotland then?

[Camelza]

At least they had eel stew!

Eels up inside yer, finding an entrance where they can.

*nods*

I love that song

[Johz]

As an addition to 1), having just moved to Manchester, I have found myself living right next to shops that sell various Indian sweets.

This one feature of one tiny import from a small proportion of immigrants vastly outweighs any opposition anyone could ever have to immigration.

Vastly.

but if u said that a Chippy was like a foreign take-away and that tiny import was common what would u say???

Praise the Lord!

That said, the scenario is nonsense. The chippy is unlikely to die out any time soon. However, a high street where the first shop was a pub, the second a chippy, the third a curry house, the fourth a Chinese takeaway, the fifth a posh Italian place, and so on and so forth, would surely be the ideal. Something for every day of the week.

[Zaras]

>claims he's not racist
>says African and Muslim culture are bad for a free society

Y'owe me a new irony meter.

Well you're the one saying you're not racist while saying white people ceasing to exist is a good thing because of their past conduct.

I don't actually care about white people ceasing to exist, but somebody has to counterbalance the crocodile tears and comically lacking in self-awareness hand-wringing of the OP.

And yes, I know you're white. No need to explain. I understand you're ashamed of your race.

>implying I give a fuck about my race

[Salandriagado]

but if u said that a Chippy was like a foreign take-away and that tiny import was common what would u say???

Praise the Lord!

That said, the scenario is nonsense. The chippy is unlikely to die out any time soon. However, a high street where the first shop was a pub, the second a chippy, the third a curry house, the fourth a Chinese takeaway, the fifth a posh Italian place, and so on and so forth, would surely be the ideal. Something for every day of the week.

I'm just going to sit here looking smug that what you just described is pretty much exactly what I had (except for the Italian place: it was Polish, and quite nice).

[Dinahia]

It's been a republic since 1946, and yes, it's ruled by shitheads. I'm not happy about it. But Iceland and Finland are republics, so shut up with the idiocy about republics being inferior to monarchies.

Iceland and Finland pretty good places........ very similar to sweden, denmark, and norway. both former monarchies there not inferior just not as successful

Has nothing to do with monarchy.