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Postby San Leggera » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:58 pm

Split from the FB&NI topic on the same subject, this is a debate about whether the earth as we know it will come to an end in under a month; the Doomsday theory.

What say you, NSG? Is the 2012 apocalypse stuff that will remain fiction until we're long since dead, or will mile-high tidal waves crash down upon our cities, zombie viruses unleash themselves upon humanity and earthquakes rip apart what's left of the land? Discuss.

(My opinion is spoilered for those interested.)
Personally, I can't see how this holds any degree of truth. The Mayan calendar, which the theory sprung from, was designed to continue after it reached its last day of 21 December, 2012 and continue for another 5,125 years; essentially a version of our own habit of replacing our calendars annually.
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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:00 pm

It's bullshit.

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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:01 pm

Yeah it's BS. It will be another day and the Maya would change their calendar.
What will happen on the 21st of December is that winter will start.
I found a video explaining the truth behind the 2012 apocalypse prediction.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:04 pm

If it happens to the French first, I'm fine with the Apocalypse.
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Postby Potlimitomaha » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:04 pm

THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong
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Postby Mkuki » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:04 pm

It's utter bullshit. Predictions have come and been disproven. It will just be another cold day filled with parents frantically shopping for Christmas presents.
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Postby Syleru » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:05 pm

San Leggera wrote:Split from the FB&NI topic on the same subject, this is a debate about whether the earth as we know it will come to an end in under a month; the Doomsday theory.

What say you, NSG? Is the 2012 apocalypse stuff that will remain fiction until we're long since dead, or will mile-high tidal waves crash down upon our cities, zombie viruses unleash themselves upon humanity and earthquakes rip apart what's left of the land? Discuss.

(My opinion is spoilered for those interested.)
Personally, I can't see how this holds any degree of truth. The Mayan calendar, which the theory sprung from, was designed to continue after it reached its last day of 21 December, 2012 and continue for another 5,125 years; essentially a version of our own habit of replacing our calendars annually.


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Postby San Leggera » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:05 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

That's six separate entities that you've claimed predict 2012 to be true. Mind providing links to show that they did/do indeed believe that?
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Postby Cill Airne » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:07 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

The Mayans predicted nothing.
Nostradamus predicted no end of the world in 2012.
The Chinese did not predict the end of the world.
The Hindu Bible? There is no such thing. There are Hindu holy texts, but not a Bible.
Nasa did not predict it
And neither did Native American tribes.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:07 pm

Mkuki wrote:It's utter bullshit. Predictions have come and been disproven. It will just be another cold day filled with parents frantically shopping for Christmas presents.

Except in the southern hemisphere.

My favorite doomsday prediction was the huge swarm of locusts that was supposed to engulf us all back in the 23rd century BCE. More recently, there was the "9999" prediction. All computers were supposed to shut down on September 9th, 1999, because, see, "9999" is the universal shutdown code and when the computers saw that date they would al just ... shut down. :p Seriously.
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Postby Auzkhia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:07 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. They can't all be wrong

Source?
Since when did NASA predicted the apocalypse?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:08 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

You have sources for all these, of course.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:10 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

What hindu bible and what makes them right? The southwest has no dates and the prochey was made in the 1980's or about what the indians were seeing when the white man cam here.
Also NASA didn't say 2012 was the end :blink:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012.html
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:10 pm

Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

My expression.

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Postby Tairoth » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:10 pm

It will not happen not for millions of years and by that time the human population would span to other worlds and possibly into the Trillions.

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Postby Malgrave » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:10 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

You have sources for all these, of course.


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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:12 pm

Malgrave wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You have sources for all these, of course.


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Postby The Realm of God » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Cill Airne wrote:
Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

The Mayans predicted nothing.
Nostradamus predicted no end of the world in 2012.
The Chinese did not predict the end of the world.
The Hindu Bible? There is no such thing. There are Hindu holy texts, but not a Bible.
Nasa did not predict it
And neither did Native American tribes.


Nostradamus did predict lots of things I'm pretty sure Nostradamus was a few hammers short of a toolbox as well.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:14 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
Cill Airne wrote:The Mayans predicted nothing.
Nostradamus predicted no end of the world in 2012.
The Chinese did not predict the end of the world.
The Hindu Bible? There is no such thing. There are Hindu holy texts, but not a Bible.
Nasa did not predict it
And neither did Native American tribes.


Nostradamus did predict lots of things I'm pretty sure Nostradamus was a few hammers short of a toolbox as well.

Nostradamus couldn't predict his way out of a paper bag.
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Postby Vetalia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:15 pm

If it does, thank God I'm only a mile from a liquor store..
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:15 pm

Vetalia wrote:If it does, thank God I'm only a mile from a liquor store..

Nostradamus didn't predict that.
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Postby Condunum » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:17 pm

I want a zombie apocalypse. I desperately desire one to happen.
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Postby Potlimitomaha » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:17 pm

San Leggera wrote:
Potlimitomaha wrote:THe mayans, Nostradamus, the ancient chinese, the Hindu bible, the southwest native american tribes and NASA all predicted 2012. THey can't all be wrong

That's six separate entities that you've claimed predict 2012 to be true. Mind providing links to show that they did/do indeed believe that?


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www.explain2012.com/i-ching-terence-mckenna-2012.php

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:17 pm

Condunum wrote:I want a zombie apocalypse. I desperately desire one to happen.

Just keep it in your neighborhood, okay?
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:18 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Nostradamus did predict lots of things I'm pretty sure Nostradamus was a few hammers short of a toolbox as well.

Nostradamus couldn't predict his way out of a paper bag.


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