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What should be done about such offenses?

1. Prosecute
120
31%
2, Object, marginalize the person, but allow.
55
14%
3. Ignore
135
35%
4. Encourage (ewww)
48
13%
5. Other
23
6%
 
Total votes : 381

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:01 pm

Kleomentia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Meh. The way I see it, life is short. As long as you're not depriving anybody of their rights without informed consent, you should be able to get off as much as you want, however you want.

True. But some things are just wrong.


Name one thing that doesn't violate informed consent that is "Just wrong."
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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:05 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Kleomentia wrote:True. But some things are just wrong.


Name one thing that doesn't violate informed consent that is "Just wrong."

Just wrong as in fucking a skeleton. Just wrong as in so many unnatural things that dont bring good(and mostly nothing bad, MOSTLY).
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:06 pm

Kleomentia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Name one thing that doesn't violate informed consent that is "Just wrong."

Just wrong as in fucking a skeleton. Just wrong as in so many unnatural things that dont bring good(and mostly nothing bad, MOSTLY).

Whenever I hear the phrase "just wrong", it makes me want to investigate it further.

It's like... automatic.
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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:07 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kleomentia wrote:Just wrong as in fucking a skeleton. Just wrong as in so many unnatural things that dont bring good(and mostly nothing bad, MOSTLY).

Whenever I hear the phrase "just wrong", it makes me want to investigate it further.

It's like... automatic.

Good, i know what to name my next thread. :p
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Postby Great Yorkshire » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:08 pm

I don't really care what happens with my remains... Rape them to your hearts content by all means.
But I'm quite glad that the law enforcement agencies consider this not to be the default position.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:17 pm

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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:18 pm

Great Yorkshire wrote:I don't really care what happens with my remains... Rape them to your hearts content by all means.
But I'm quite glad that the law enforcement agencies consider this not to be the default position.


I prefer consensual partners who are alive.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:18 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Great Yorkshire wrote:I don't really care what happens with my remains... Rape them to your hearts content by all means.
But I'm quite glad that the law enforcement agencies consider this not to be the default position.


I prefer consensual partners who are alive.

What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Izandai » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:24 pm

Kleomentia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Meh. The way I see it, life is short. As long as you're not depriving anybody of their rights without informed consent, you should be able to get off as much as you want, however you want.

True. But some things are just wrong.

But WHY are some things "just wrong?"
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Hey, this is a church thread. No mentioning religion!

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My blind porcupine takes exception to this


Your blind porcupine can read text? :blink:

Neanderthaland wrote:
Izandai wrote:I try to be a generous fuck. I'm more likely to have sex with someone more than once that way.

Although for some reason they always act insulted when I try to pay them to communicate how much I value sex.

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Postby Izandai » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Galloism wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I prefer consensual partners who are alive.

What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?

Well, you aren't exactly very hot-blooded. I'd think that would be a bit of a negative in the bedroom.
Shinkadomayaka wrote:
JUNCKS wrote:Ozzy is awesome but Jesus is awesomer

Hey, this is a church thread. No mentioning religion!

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:
My blind porcupine takes exception to this


Your blind porcupine can read text? :blink:

Neanderthaland wrote:
Izandai wrote:I try to be a generous fuck. I'm more likely to have sex with someone more than once that way.

Although for some reason they always act insulted when I try to pay them to communicate how much I value sex.

Ism wrote:We don't dislike what Trump does because he's Trump, we dislike Trump because of what Trump does.

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of people are evil, and most of them are closer to home than ISIS


Oooooh. The rare self burn.

Grenartia wrote:Authoritarianism is political sadomasochism, change my mind.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Izandai wrote:
Galloism wrote:What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?

Well, you aren't exactly very hot-blooded. I'd think that would be a bit of a negative in the bedroom.

Celerity + oil + friction = heat.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Galloism wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I prefer consensual partners who are alive.

What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?

I guess your a exception.
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Postby Great Yorkshire » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:27 pm

Izandai wrote:
Kleomentia wrote:True. But some things are just wrong.

But WHY are some things "just wrong?"
In this case a lot of people have fairly specific beliefs regarding how human remains should be treated... how can you be sure they are wrong..?
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Postby Izandai » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:27 pm

Galloism wrote:
Izandai wrote:Well, you aren't exactly very hot-blooded. I'd think that would be a bit of a negative in the bedroom.

Celerity + oil + friction = heat.

Celerity?
Shinkadomayaka wrote:
JUNCKS wrote:Ozzy is awesome but Jesus is awesomer

Hey, this is a church thread. No mentioning religion!

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:
My blind porcupine takes exception to this


Your blind porcupine can read text? :blink:

Neanderthaland wrote:
Izandai wrote:I try to be a generous fuck. I'm more likely to have sex with someone more than once that way.

Although for some reason they always act insulted when I try to pay them to communicate how much I value sex.

Ism wrote:We don't dislike what Trump does because he's Trump, we dislike Trump because of what Trump does.

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of people are evil, and most of them are closer to home than ISIS


Oooooh. The rare self burn.

Grenartia wrote:Authoritarianism is political sadomasochism, change my mind.
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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Izandai wrote:
Galloism wrote:Celerity + oil + friction = heat.

Celerity?

Celerity.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Izandai » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:29 pm

Great Yorkshire wrote:
Izandai wrote:But WHY are some things "just wrong?"
In this case a lot of people have fairly specific beliefs regarding how human remains should be treated... how can you be sure they are wrong..?

If I were to go to a graveyard, dig up someones remains, swap the positions of their skull and their pelvis, put the coffin back into the ground, and cover it up so that it all looks exactly the way I found it, who have I harmed? Who is affected by my childish joke?
Shinkadomayaka wrote:
JUNCKS wrote:Ozzy is awesome but Jesus is awesomer

Hey, this is a church thread. No mentioning religion!

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:
My blind porcupine takes exception to this


Your blind porcupine can read text? :blink:

Neanderthaland wrote:
Izandai wrote:I try to be a generous fuck. I'm more likely to have sex with someone more than once that way.

Although for some reason they always act insulted when I try to pay them to communicate how much I value sex.

Ism wrote:We don't dislike what Trump does because he's Trump, we dislike Trump because of what Trump does.

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of people are evil, and most of them are closer to home than ISIS


Oooooh. The rare self burn.

Grenartia wrote:Authoritarianism is political sadomasochism, change my mind.
Age subject to change without notice.

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Postby Izandai » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:32 pm

Galloism wrote:
Izandai wrote:Celerity?

Celerity.

Fair enough, but shouldn't the oil somewhat lessen the amount of friction?
Shinkadomayaka wrote:
JUNCKS wrote:Ozzy is awesome but Jesus is awesomer

Hey, this is a church thread. No mentioning religion!

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:
Rambhutan wrote:
My blind porcupine takes exception to this


Your blind porcupine can read text? :blink:

Neanderthaland wrote:
Izandai wrote:I try to be a generous fuck. I'm more likely to have sex with someone more than once that way.

Although for some reason they always act insulted when I try to pay them to communicate how much I value sex.

Ism wrote:We don't dislike what Trump does because he's Trump, we dislike Trump because of what Trump does.

Fartsniffage wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Lots of people are evil, and most of them are closer to home than ISIS


Oooooh. The rare self burn.

Grenartia wrote:Authoritarianism is political sadomasochism, change my mind.
Age subject to change without notice.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Izandai wrote:
Galloism wrote:Celerity.

Fair enough, but shouldn't the oil somewhat lessen the amount of friction?

Hence, Celerity.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Great Yorkshire » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Izandai wrote:
Great Yorkshire wrote:In this case a lot of people have fairly specific beliefs regarding how human remains should be treated... how can you be sure they are wrong..?

If I were to go to a graveyard, dig up someones remains, swap the positions of their skull and their pelvis, put the coffin back into the ground, and cover it up so that it all looks exactly the way I found it, who have I harmed? Who is affected by my childish joke?
No one. But I say that as an atheist.
If I was an Ancient Egyptian however...

If you don't know how the person intended for their remains to be treated... safe guess they didn't want them stuck up your prat eh?
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The Queen of quips, the Sultan of snickering, the President of puns, the Generalissimo of jollity, the Tsar of zingers, the Guru of guffaws, the Jam Sahib of jokes, the Maharajah of mirth, the Chhatrapati of cheer, the Poligar of punch lines, the Rao Bahadur of revelry, the Baivarapatish of bullshit, the Chief Executive of chuckles, the Managing Director of merriment, the Deputy Financial Officer of damn funny observations, the Satrap of satire, who'll never give you a flat tire, 'cos she's not that dire, she used to have testicles, she still wears spectacles, the Edith Piaf of amateur table tennis (she regrets nothing about her backhand smashes) and the self-declared inventor of the prawn burrito... The one, the only... The chunter hunter... Great Yorkshire.

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Postby Takaram » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

I feel like I've read this story somewhere in a work of fiction.

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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Galloism wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
I prefer consensual partners who are alive.

What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?


Last I checked, you were a Sith Lord, and didn't swing towards me. Also, aren't you my NS Dad? :p
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Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:34 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Galloism wrote:What about me?

Do you have something against Vampire-Americans?


Last I checked, you were a Sith Lord, and didn't swing towards me. Also, aren't you my NS Dad? :p

It's the principle.

I speak for all of vampire-kind.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Grenartia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Last I checked, you were a Sith Lord, and didn't swing towards me. Also, aren't you my NS Dad? :p

It's the principle.

I speak for all of vampire-kind.


I actually consider vampires to be alive. I have nothing against vampires, unless they're like in Twilight.
Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
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Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

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Postby Galloism » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's the principle.

I speak for all of vampire-kind.


I actually consider vampires to be alive. I have nothing against vampires, unless they're like in Twilight.

Twilight is an insult to all vampires.

True Blood is better. In True Blood, the only thing that sparkles is Lafayette.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Nov 23, 2012 4:42 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's the principle.

I speak for all of vampire-kind.


I actually consider vampires to be alive. I have nothing against vampires, unless they're like in Twilight.

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NSG's God of Derp and Randomness, Monarchist&Capitalist and a patriotic Christian Serb
Also, wubwubwubwubwubwubWUBwubwubwubwubwubwub...

"In this primitive world of greed and stupidity, peace can only be achieved through fear, a brute military force which will unite the world under one flag!"
"We know nothing, but wish to do everything."
"Kosovo is Serbia! Failing to acknowledge that either proves your ignorance or lack of education."
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Galenaima wrote:
BLASPHEMY! THERE HE IS! IMMA CUMMIN' JESUS!!!

*jumps out window*

I'm quite sure Jesus didn't wish to know that.
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