Virginity

[North Calaveras]

You could have sex with someone whos positive and not even get infected.

Impossible. Sex was cursed by Satan so that you always get HIV.

[Seperates]

Public health? Did someone implant this idea in your head that people who aren't virgins go around having intercourse with everything on two legs?

Rampant promiscuity and safe pre-marital sex is what separates us from the burkas.

I do not find your reference to Islam to be in any way humorous. If someone stays a virgin they WILL NEVER contract a sexually transmitted disease barring needles and blood transplants. Whereas if you lose your virginity and find out five years later that the person you lost your virginity to infected you with AIDS, everyone you had sex with or will have sex with are now infected (except for the rare few who are immune).

Unless, of course... your partner has AIDS... Or you are born with AIDS... Or your children are born with AIDS. And seeing how alot of AIDS is spread through contaminated needles... well...

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Public health? Did someone implant this idea in your head that people who aren't virgins go around having intercourse with everything on two legs?

Rampant promiscuity and safe pre-marital sex is what separates us from the burkas.

I do not find your reference to Islam to be in any way humorous. If someone stays a virgin they WILL NEVER contract a sexually transmitted disease barring needles and blood transplants. Whereas if you lose your virginity and find out five years later that the person you lost your virginity to infected you with AIDS, everyone you had sex with or will have sex with are now infected (except for the rare few who are immune).

MALE CONDOMS!
FEMALE CONDOMS!
STD TESTING!
Planned parenthood does it ALL for extremely cheap or FREE.

[Distributist Chestertonia]

Perhaps people would be less troubled by the idea of sexual purity if they approached it from a positive rather than a negative standpoint - from a standpoint of love, care, and concern rather than punishment and strict standards.

The Theology of the Body, a Catholic conception of human sexuality, attempts to do just that. Bl. Pope John Paul II took Scripture and gave it a renewed lookover. Assuming you believe in God, Christ, and His Church, it's very interesting.

This is a video I offer as kind of an introduction to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qc4x98gH0E
(No, I didn't make it myself. But it covers the subject fairly well.)

Further resources include Christopher West's "Theology of the Body for Beginners" and "Theology of the Body Explained" - and of course, John Paul's "Theology of the Body" itself.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Didn't you hear? If you have sex, you'll die of HIV immediately, period.

You could have sex with someone whos positive and not even get infected.

(i know your being sarcastic btw, just sayin

Still safer to use a condom. To each to judge the risk though, *shrugs*.

[North Calaveras]

You could have sex with someone whos positive and not even get infected.

(i know your being sarcastic btw, just sayin

Still safer to use a condom. To each to judge the risk though, *shrugs*.

agreed

[Euronion]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

because it is an incurable illness that severally damages the person who is infected with it, the costs for and the amount of medication (the medication to soothe it because it is incurable) are simply outrageous. As for your second point, you are correct, but you are seriously seriously risking it, it is less of a Russian roulette and more of a, load 6 bullets in the revolver, spin it and shoot it at your head hoping that all you'll hear is a click. Mind you, the only way to control the spread of STDs and HIVs barring blood to blood transmission is a condom. Not even a vasectomy will inhibit its spread.

[Mavorpen]

You could have sex with someone whos positive and not even get infected.

(i know your being sarcastic btw, just sayin

Still safer to use a condom. To each to judge the risk though, *shrugs*.

Condoms were created by Satan to ruin the fantastic gift given by God that is babymaking.

[Costa Alegria]

I do not find your reference to Islam to be in any way humorous.

I find your references to Vulcans insulting to those make believe peoples but you don't see me bitching about it.

If someone stays a virgin they WILL NEVER contract a sexually transmitted disease barring needles and blood transplants.

Ever considered something called "safe sex", i.e with a condom? Because it is clear you haven't, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Whereas if you lose your virginity and find out five years later that the person you lost your virginity to infected you with AIDS, everyone you had sex with or will have sex with are now infected (except for the rare few who are immune).

Again, safe sex practices will ensure you'll make the right decision. I've already made the decision that when and if I have sexual intercourse with a partner, I shall use a condom to protect myself from any rouge infections, diseases and lumps and prevent them from becoming pregnant.

Super Simple Stuff.

[North Calaveras]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

because it is an incurable illness that severally damages the person who is infected with it, the costs for and the amount of medication (the medication to soothe it because it is incurable) are simply outrageous. As for your second point, you are correct, but you are seriously seriously risking it, it is less of a Russian roulette and more of a, load 6 bullets in the revolver, spin it and shoot it at your head hoping that all you'll hear is a click. Mind you, the only way to control the spread of STDs and HIVs barring blood to blood transmission is a condom. Not even a vasectomy will inhibit its spread.

your vastly exaggerating it, it's actually much harder to get HIV through sex than you think.

[Zweite Alaje]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

Yes, but certain people love trying their luck at it. These are the same people that cry about teen pregnancy and needing abortions, but they don't want to take the necessary precautions to prevent such things.

[EnragedMaldivians]

Still safer to use a condom. To each to judge the risk though, *shrugs*.

Condoms were created by Satan to ruin the fantastic gift given by God that is babymaking.

Naughtyheathensex is bestsex.

[Costa Alegria]

Impossible. Sex was cursed by Satan so that you always get HIV.

And then, he'll reward your lapse of judgement with sodomy by pineapple.

[Avenio]

They had an experiment once. It was published in some academic journal, but I seem to be unable to find it now.

How surprising.

They asked a group of both men and women what their partner preferences were. Both extensively listed personality traits and indicated that they thought those were their genuine preferences. After that, they paired them up with several people for a date and asked them which one they had preferred. Men usually ignored or abandoned the idea of all desired personality traits for physical attractiveness, and women usually ignored or abandoned the idea of all desired personality traits for material wealth and social status.

You cannot make conclusions about biology based upon data from the humanities. They have very different standards of data and experimental procedures; biology is a hard science and psychology is a soft science. You cannot assume the existence of a heritable trait based upon a survey - you'd be laughed out of any evolutionary biology conference.

A little tongue and cheek wouldn't go amiss.

That was humour?

[North Calaveras]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

Yes, but certain people love trying their luck at it. These are the same people that cry about teen pregnancy and needing abortions, but they don't want to take the necessary precautions to prevent such things.

Agreed, ive taken risks at times, though I usually don't go after sketchy looking people and people who have had lots of partners so it helps.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

because it is an incurable illness that severally damages the person who is infected with it, the costs for and the amount of medication (the medication to soothe it because it is incurable) are simply outrageous. As for your second point, you are correct, but you are seriously seriously risking it, it is less of a Russian roulette and more of a, load 6 bullets in the revolver, spin it and shoot it at your head hoping that all you'll hear is a click. Mind you, the only way to control the spread of STDs and HIVs barring blood to blood transmission is a condom. Not even a vasectomy will inhibit its spread.

HIV is no longer a death sentence. FFS they've even learned how to, in limited circumstances, cure HIV. HIV does not automatically mean you are damaged, and it definitely does not bean you will die.
LERN2SCIENCE

[Euronion]

I do not find your reference to Islam to be in any way humorous. If someone stays a virgin they WILL NEVER contract a sexually transmitted disease barring needles and blood transplants. Whereas if you lose your virginity and find out five years later that the person you lost your virginity to infected you with AIDS, everyone you had sex with or will have sex with are now infected (except for the rare few who are immune).

MALE CONDOMS!
FEMALE CONDOMS!
STD TESTING!
Planned parenthood does it ALL for extremely cheap or FREE.

Male Condoms Break and are misused
Female Condoms also break and are also misused and no where near as effective as a male condom
As for STD testing, some strains of STDs remain dormant for a very long time, I've heard of some cases where the person only notices symptoms 10-15 years after contracting the virus. There is also that mentality that because your partner is "clean" then he/she doesn't have an STD and you do not need to be tested as testing is embarrassing for many people.

[Seperates]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

Yes, but certain people love trying their luck at it. These are the same people that cry about teen pregnancy and needing abortions, but they don't want to take the necessary precautions to prevent such things.

Even though teen pregnancy and STD generally happens at higher rates where such things aren't public knowledge... such as the South.

[Mavorpen]

They had an experiment once. It was published in some academic journal, but I seem to be unable to find it now.

How surprising.

Actually, I've seen it, but not in academic journals.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18866_5- ... ience.html

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hea ... en-shallow

[Costa Alegria]

That was humour?

The bitterness is strong in this one.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Public health? Did someone implant this idea in your head that people who aren't virgins go around having intercourse with everything on two legs?

Rampant promiscuity and safe pre-marital sex is what separates us from the burkas.

I do not find your reference to Islam to be in any way humorous. If someone stays a virgin they WILL NEVER contract a sexually transmitted disease barring needles and blood transplants. Whereas if you lose your virginity and find out five years later that the person you lost your virginity to infected you with AIDS, everyone you had sex with or will have sex with are now infected (except for the rare few who are immune).

Well, not necessarily, AIDs isn't a sure deal kind of thing. And many people who discover they have aids do refrain from sex.

But anyway - obvious logic is obvious. Yes, if you never have sex you wont get pregnant, you are safe from most STDs. Is that reason enough to refrain when one feels ready to have sex and wants to, since it is an enjoyable, natural activity with benefits? No, since we now have the means to reduce the undersired risks to ridicuously low levels.

Of course you can say "but condoms break!" Sure, but not often. It's like saying "but seat belts have been known to fail! And airbags! Stay out of cars!"

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Why do people bring up HIV so much?

btw even if the person has an STD it doesn't guarantee you will receive it if you have unprotected sex, it's a Russian roulette kind of thing.

Yes, but certain people love trying their luck at it. These are the same people that cry about teen pregnancy and needing abortions, but they don't want to take the necessary precautions to prevent such things.

Because *certain groups of people* won't educate people to use precautions properly. I have had to teach at least 250 people how to properly use a condom in the past year. It's ridiculous that that many people on my campus don't know how to use a condom, and that's only out of the people we got to come to our booths and sessions.

[Mavorpen]

That was humour?

The bitterness is strong in this one.

Avenio: Proving that scientists are cold, unfeeling jerks since 2009. *nods*

[Saiwania]

HIV is no longer a death sentence. FFS they've even learned how to, in limited circumstances, cure HIV. HIV does not automatically mean you are damaged, and it definitely does not bean you will die. LERN2SCIENCE

HIV might as well be a death sentence if you aren't rich enough to afford the medication. I know I'd prefer to commit suicide than to allow my immune system to torment me until death.

[Mavorpen]

Because *certain groups of people* won't educate people to use precautions properly. I have had to teach at least 250 people how to properly use a condom in the past year. It's ridiculous that that many people on my campus don't know how to use a condom, and that's only out of the people we got to come to our booths and sessions.

I actually had one of those presentations last week during one of my required Freshman courses on my campus.