Virginity

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

please don't generalize like that :I
I throughly enjoy it

Considering that well over half of men will openly admit that Masturbation brings little pleasure past the release of sexual tension, myself included, it's not really a generalization. It's just the common denominator.

Over half? o.o
Good god, what kind of people do you know?
That's the first time I've ever heard of that.

[Norstal]

You think that social bonding is not a need for a social animal?

Ever been in solitary confinement?

If social bonding was a need, why would psychologists treat the insane by locking them in a padded room?

They don't.

You really need to go outside.

[Quintium]

Protip: the whole 'omega'/'alpha'/whatever system of social hierarchy doesn't exist in humans. Also, evolutionary psychology is bad and you should feel bad.

A system of social hierarchy most certainly does exist in humans. It can be spotted at any level, starting at the body language during a conversation. If you lean towards the person you're speaking to, you're in a submissive position. If you lean back, you challenge their authority. These are some of the things people don't want to hear, but when you read up on them and start to notice them, they're absolutely everywhere.

[Avenio]

A system of social hierarchy most certainly does exist in humans. It can be spotted at any level, starting at the body language during a conversation. If you lean towards the person you're speaking to, you're in a submissive position. If you lean back, you challenge their authority. These are some of the things people don't want to hear, but when you read up on them and start to notice them, they're absolutely everywhere.

Carefully read what I said and figure out the error in comprehension you're having.

[Occalgavia]

Still haven't explained why not having sex makes us civilized.

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

[Condunum]

Considering that well over half of men will openly admit that Masturbation brings little pleasure past the release of sexual tension, myself included, it's not really a generalization. It's just the common denominator.

Over half? o.o
Good god, what kind of people do you know?
That's the first time I've ever heard of that.

To note, they probably wouldn't openly admit it and I spoke wrong there... but studies suggest (I can't be arsed to find them, but I'll try tomorrow) that the large majority of men who regularly masturbate don't actually find much pleasure, past the gratification effect from relieving their sexual tension.

It's very likely that the majority of the pleasure you get is from the very same release, albeit a bit stronger than some of the others

[Norstal]

Still haven't explained why not having sex makes us civilized.

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

What's excess sex?

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

Over half? o.o
Good god, what kind of people do you know?
That's the first time I've ever heard of that.

To note, they probably wouldn't openly admit it and I spoke wrong there... but studies suggest (I can't be arsed to find them, but I'll try tomorrow) that the large majority of men who regularly masturbate don't actually find much pleasure, past the gratification effect from relieving their sexual tension.

It's very likely that the majority of the pleasure you get is from the very same release, albeit a bit stronger than some of the others :P

:I I'd certainly love to see these studies because that sounds like some b.s. to me.

[Galloism]

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

What's excess sex?

If you starve to death while having sex because you haven't stopped for thirty straight days or so... that might be excessive.

[Xathranaar]

What's excess sex?

If you starve to death while having sex because you haven't stopped for thirty straight days or so... that might be excessive.

But a great thing to have written on one's tombstone.

[Occalgavia]

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

What's excess sex?

I don't know the answer to it. Perhaps the answer varies by person. Perhaps we could base it on something like devotion of time vs. productivity, or some threshold after which interpersonal problems arise, or instinctual negative response, or where there is no conscious to surrender to impulse. I cannot make any authoritative claim on the matter.
However, I can think of a way to guarantee that you are not having excess sex, even if you cannot define where moderation ends and excess begins.

[Karsland]

please don't generalize like that :I
I throughly enjoy it

Considering that well over half of men will admit, probably with some reluctance, that Masturbation brings little pleasure past the release of sexual tension, myself included, it's not really a generalization. It's just the common denominator.

Im not sure about half of men, but il agree with this

[Mavorpen]

So he doesn't comeback with, "I didn't see it lul"

Just like a professional athlete's ability to run makes him noteworthy.
Oh, but that would mean that nobody other than a professional athlete is able to run, right?
My two statements are not contradictory. The latter was an elaboration on the former.

Except no, this analogy is just plain false. You stated that humans are humans because they have self control, period. You didn't say they are "special" because they have "more" self control. You blatantly said that animals don't have self control. Your claim was wrong.

Great job. You've shown your ability to dodge being wrong.

Not hard to do that when you're right.

New research is now suggesting a much more primitive explanation for our powers of self-discipline—one that brings us down a notch or two
in the animal kingdom. Indeed, it appears that, even with our lofty goals, we may rely on the same basic biological mechanism for self-discipline as our four-legged best friends.

Executive powers? In old Shep? These findings suggest that self-control may not be a crowning psychological achievement of humanity, and indeed may have nothing to do with self-awareness. It may simply be biology—and beastly biology at that.

So we’re not unique—at least not in this regard. It appears that hallmark sense of human identity—our selfhood—is not a prerequisite for self-discipline.

Which doesn't state that other species doesn't have self-control.

Yet there is reason to believe that human and nonhuman self-control processes rely on the same biological mechanism—the availability of glucose in the bloodstream.

Great job giving me sources proving me right.

[The Corparation]

If you starve to death while having sex because you haven't stopped for thirty straight days or so... that might be excessive.

But a great thing to have written on one's tombstone.

Iirc one of the past presidents of France has his memorial of him lying in bed. Man died like he lived, sleeping with tons of women.

[Condunum]

To note, they probably wouldn't openly admit it and I spoke wrong there... but studies suggest (I can't be arsed to find them, but I'll try tomorrow) that the large majority of men who regularly masturbate don't actually find much pleasure, past the gratification effect from relieving their sexual tension.

It's very likely that the majority of the pleasure you get is from the very same release, albeit a bit stronger than some of the others

:I I'd certainly love to see these studies because that sounds like some b.s. to me.

To be completely honest, the first place I heard it was confessions of MtF transsexuals, who said that the Male orgasm was little more than sexual release for them. I know I found something, somewhere. It wasn't the most reliable study, but it did suggest that the male orgasm is inferior/not all that amazing.

[Quintium]

Carefully read what I said and figure out the error in comprehension you're having.

Oh, there is no error in comprehension.
Here are my definitions for that.

Alpha male = socially dominant, immediate authority, full-dominant body language.
Beta male = not very dominant, learned authority, displays both types of body language.
Omega male = not socially dominant at all, no authority, full-submissive body language.

[Norstal]

What's excess sex?

I don't know the answer to it. Perhaps the answer varies by person. Perhaps we could base it on something like devotion of time vs. productivity, or some threshold after which interpersonal problems arise, or instinctual negative response. I cannot make any authoritative claim on the matter.
However, I can think of a way to guarantee that you are not having excess sex, even if you cannot define where moderation ends and excess begins.

I'm just saying psychologists or any other professional haven't classified what's excessive sex is.

A Puritan from Bumfuck, Virginia would find 2 sexual encounters to be excessive, whilst a satanic liberal from Beverly Hills who's a world-renowned physicist has sex about 20 times per week would be uncivilized in that view.

[Zweite Alaje]

Still haven't explained why not having sex makes us civilized.

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

This message is Alaje approved!!! It is preferable for there not to be sex outside of marriage or a stable relationship.

[Mavorpen]

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

This message is Alaje approved!!! It is preferable for there not to be sex outside of marriage or a stable relationship.

Then don't do it. I don't see why you need to announce this on a forum.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

Still haven't explained why not having sex makes us civilized.

I didn't say this. I said that excess is uncivilised. Therefore, it is not having sex, but having sex excessively, which is uncivilised.

1. How much is "excess"?
2. Who defined how much "excess" is?
3. Why does this subjective nonsense about "excess" make someone uncivilized?

[Norstal]

This message is Alaje approved!!! It is preferable for there not to be sex outside of marriage or a stable relationship.

Then don't do it. I don't see why you need to announce this on a forum.

It's clearly reverse psychology.

[Mavorpen]

Then don't do it. I don't see why you need to announce this on a forum.

It's clearly reverse psychology.

I guess. I definitely feel like going have sex outside of marriage and intentionally have sex with people I don't have a stable relationship with now.

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

It's clearly reverse psychology.

I guess. I definitely feel like going have sex outside of marriage and intentionally have sex with people I don't have a stable relationship with now.

It's me, right? It's totally me.
I need it.

[Avenio]

Oh, there is no error in comprehension.

Really? Could've fooled me.

Here are my definitions for that.

Alpha male = socially dominant, immediate authority, full-dominant body language.
Beta male = not very dominant, learned authority, displays both types of body language.
Omega male = not socially dominant at all, no authority, full-submissive body language.

Humans are not canids. We're in a whole different family, oddly enough, and have very different physiologies. We don't think like canids, so trying to project a simplistic model of pack animal behaviour that doesn't even fully describe behaviour in pack animals onto humans is pointless and utterly incorrect.

[Mavorpen]

I guess. I definitely feel like going have sex outside of marriage and intentionally have sex with people I don't have a stable relationship with now.

It's me, right? It's totally me.
I need it.

Obligatory response.