Virginity

[CTALNH]

Why can't you learn with a boyfriend/girlfriend or with one night stands?

AIDS. HIV. Pregnancy. And it is immoral. Also, what is so wrong with marriage? Why does it bother people so much to keep their pants zipped?

Marriage?
AIDS=HIV and its always is exaggerated...Of course be cautious!

Pregnancy prepare and nothing is gonna happen!

And it is immoral........

[Freelanderness]

Why can't you learn with a boyfriend/girlfriend or with one night stands?

AIDS. HIV. Pregnancy. And it is immoral. Also, what is so wrong with marriage? Why does it bother people so much to keep their pants zipped?

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

[Adventus Secundus]

The Christian view is any sexual activity outside of marriage constitutes sin. If I can go bang anyone as long as my spouse is ok with it, we might as well just have orgies with the neighbors. It's consensual, right?
I in no way attacked "bushsucks"'s personal character, just their sanity. I know, that doesn't make it ok. sorry. In my defense, I dislike radical conservatives as much as radical liberals.

The concept that virginity is somehow only a female thing is false and oppressive to women. I am male, and I value my virginity. My sexuality is still something I'm learning to control in a God-honoring way, and it will be a gift reserved only for my wife. There is nothing unhealthy about that at all. Counter-cultural, in some ways, but not unhealthy.

Not radical liberal. Just anti-religion and anti-''Hey-I-am-a-Christian-and-you-hereby-have-to-live-by-my-laws-even-if-you-don't-believe-in-them. I-will-decide-when-you-can-die-even-if-you-have-terminal-cancer, I-will-keep-your-girlfriend-who-is-none-of-my-business-from-getting-an-abortion-and-I-will-decide-who-you-will-have-sex-with-and-when''

Moral mandates are moral mandates. If I believe something is wrong and I don't act on that belief, I am myself consenting to the very thing I believe is wrong. So. <shrugs>. I don't want to decide when you have sex. But I can still believe that when you do outside of marriage, it is wrong. As a matter of fact, enforcing the laws (or deciding them) is not the responsibility of the Christian. We're just here to please God in our lives and be a testimony to His holiness.

[Adventus Secundus]

AIDS. HIV. Pregnancy. And it is immoral. Also, what is so wrong with marriage? Why does it bother people so much to keep their pants zipped?

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Source please...

[CTALNH]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Source please...

Your not any better you know....
HIV is AIDS....

[The Sovereign Realm]

Sex is like hiring a carpenter. Do you want someone who's never held a tool, or someone who's driven a few nails in their time?

Think about it.

[Mavorpen]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Source please...

That wasn't hard.

[Freelanderness]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Source please...

Sorry should have said "married women are one of the groups at the highest risk for".

http://www.stanford.edu/group/journal/cgi-bin/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tolan_SocSci_2005.pdf

[Vareiln]

Yeah vampires....

What about people with a blood fetish and some S&M enthusiasts? They'd probably enjoy some blood and roughness in sex.

Heh...

[Mavorpen]

AIDS. HIV. Pregnancy. And it is immoral. Also, what is so wrong with marriage? Why does it bother people so much to keep their pants zipped?

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Actually, this is slightly incorrect. In Africa, it's not uncommon for girls to be married into their teens, and thus married women in Africa are at higher risk for HIV infection than unmarried women.

[BushSucks-istan]

Not radical liberal. Just anti-religion and anti-''Hey-I-am-a-Christian-and-you-hereby-have-to-live-by-my-laws-even-if-you-don't-believe-in-them. I-will-decide-when-you-can-die-even-if-you-have-terminal-cancer, I-will-keep-your-girlfriend-who-is-none-of-my-business-from-getting-an-abortion-and-I-will-decide-who-you-will-have-sex-with-and-when''

Moral mandates are moral mandates. If I believe something is wrong and I don't act on that belief, I am myself consenting to the very thing I believe is wrong. So. <shrugs>. I don't want to decide when you have sex. But I can still believe that when you do outside of marriage, it is wrong. As a matter of fact, enforcing the laws (or deciding them) is not the responsibility of the Christian. We're just here to please God in our lives and be a testimony to His holiness.

Put the biggest lock you can find on your underwear if you want. But don't you dare put a lock on mine just because YOU believe in a man in the sky. If God doesn't want me having sex. let him tell me, not you. The government (so laws) have no business in people's sexlives at all! We've lived under such theocratic horror regimes, it was called the dark ages.

[CTALNH]

What about people with a blood fetish and some S&M enthusiasts? They'd probably enjoy some blood and roughness in sex.

Heh...

Are you a "twilight" vampire?

[Raeyh]

AIDS. HIV. Pregnancy. And it is immoral. Also, what is so wrong with marriage? Why does it bother people so much to keep their pants zipped?

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

Which isn't important now that we aren't living in the wild. Nobody needs to pass down their genes as quickly as possible to avoid being eaten before that happens. If you want to live like animals, go move to the wilderness.

[Freelanderness]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Actually, this is slightly incorrect. In Africa, it's not uncommon for girls to be married into their teens, and thus married women in Africa are at higher risk for HIV infection than unmarried women.

Yeah I corrected that. They're at a higher risk for it, though I think that it still applies adequately to the discussion at hand.

[Mavorpen]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

Which isn't important now that we aren't living in the wild. Nobody needs to pass down their genes as quickly as possible to avoid being eaten before that happens. If you want to live like animals, go move to the wilderness.

And it's kind of using the naturalistic fallacy.

[Gallowfield]

In my opinion, virginity shouldn't be an issue at all. People shouldn't care about whether people have had sex. Also, people shouldn't care about whether people haven't had sex.

[BushSucks-istan]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

Which isn't important now that we aren't living in the wild. Nobody needs to pass down their genes as quickly as possible to avoid being eaten before that happens. If you want to live like animals, go move to the wilderness.

That is not an argument at all. Just because it has no purpose besides pleasure doesn't mean we shouldn't do it.

[CTALNH]

Moral mandates are moral mandates. If I believe something is wrong and I don't act on that belief, I am myself consenting to the very thing I believe is wrong. So. <shrugs>. I don't want to decide when you have sex. But I can still believe that when you do outside of marriage, it is wrong. As a matter of fact, enforcing the laws (or deciding them) is not the responsibility of the Christian. We're just here to please God in our lives and be a testimony to His holiness.

Put the biggest lock you can find on your underwear if you want. But don't you dare put a lock on mine just because YOU believe in a man in the sky. If God doesn't want me having sex. let him tell me, not you. The government (so laws) have no business in people's sexlives at all! We've lived under such theocratic horror regimes, it was called the dark ages.

And lets not talk about the relative fu$#!$$ called Royalty who were supported by the church!

[Freelanderness]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

Which isn't important now that we aren't living in the wild. Nobody needs to pass down their genes as quickly as possible to avoid being eaten before that happens. If you want to live like animals, go move to the wilderness.

Wait, except that the only purpose isn't for procreation. There are pleasure centres, which in our primal days would have most likely, since this is science we're talking about had the purpose of motivating us to procreate. Now, however, through the magics of scientific advancement, we have a whole array of birth control methods, and sex is no longer something solely for the purpose of procreation. We do, however, still retain the drive to have sex from our earlier days. It's a completely normal, and I would argue, healthy urge.

Unlike you, I don't think the pinnacle of civilisation lies in denying one of our most basic needs (or wants depending on who you ask). In fact, I think the opposite, since I consider purposely denying yourself something that is healthy, natural, and pleasurable, is just plain illogical.

[Mavorpen]

Wait, except that the only purpose isn't for procreation. There are pleasure centres, which in our primal days would have most likely, since this is science we're talking about had the purpose of motivating us to procreate. Now, however, through the magics of scientific advancement, we have a whole array of birth control methods, and sex is no longer something solely for the purpose of procreation. We do, however, still retain the drive to have sex from our earlier days. It's a completely normal, and I would argue, healthy urge.

Unlike you, I don't think the pinnacle of civilisation lies in denying one of our most basic needs (or wants depending on who you ask). In fact, I think the opposite, since I consider purposely denying yourself something that is healthy, natural, and pleasurable, is just plain illogical.

Just because I don't want to read, "LUL HOW IS IT HEALTHY!?"

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/ ... its-of-sex

[BushSucks-istan]

I consider purposely denying yourself something that is healthy, natural, and pleasurable, is just plain illogical.

Amen

[Ethel mermania]

Mind giving everyone some proof?

It should be self-evident that if you have a single, life-long partner, you'll gradually learn what makes them tick and how to please them. Rather than trying to have 'great sex' with a parade of different partners. The first time might suck because, well, both parties are inexperienced, but people do learn.

no, by playing with others you learn different techniques to bring to the table, that just by yourselves you might not think of.

[Brekka]

Moral mandates are moral mandates. If I believe something is wrong and I don't act on that belief, I am myself consenting to the very thing I believe is wrong. So. <shrugs>. I don't want to decide when you have sex. But I can still believe that when you do outside of marriage, it is wrong. As a matter of fact, enforcing the laws (or deciding them) is not the responsibility of the Christian. We're just here to please God in our lives and be a testimony to His holiness.

Put the biggest lock you can find on your underwear if you want. But don't you dare put a lock on mine just because YOU believe in a man in the sky. If God doesn't want me having sex. let him tell me, not you. The government (so laws) have no business in people's sexlives at all! We've lived under such theocratic horror regimes, it was called the dark ages.

Someone's trying to tell you that you can't have sex where you want,when you want, and with who you want? Oh the horror, such oppression. I'm sure it's putting you on the brink of destruction.

[Ethel mermania]

Wait, except in Africa, married women have one of the highest rates of AIDS/HIV...

Oh and to also address the latter part: People are biologically hardwired to not "keep their pants zipped". A species that did that would not be as effective at survival.

Which isn't important now that we aren't living in the wild. Nobody needs to pass down their genes as quickly as possible to avoid being eaten before that happens. If you want to live like animals, go move to the wilderness.

Agreed, sex out doors is a lot of fun.

[BushSucks-istan]

Put the biggest lock you can find on your underwear if you want. But don't you dare put a lock on mine just because YOU believe in a man in the sky. If God doesn't want me having sex. let him tell me, not you. The government (so laws) have no business in people's sexlives at all! We've lived under such theocratic horror regimes, it was called the dark ages.

Someone's trying to tell you that you can't have sex where you want,when you want, and with who you want? Oh the horror, such oppression. I'm sure it's putting you on the brink of destruction.

You have no right to tell me what to do. period. Don't like sex? Don't do it. Just stop forcing superstitious beliefs about sex on others.
And yes it is horror, it is a clear violation of one's freedom!