Roman Catholic Priests to be violated in Australia

[Great Nepal]

The Church exists in a different sphere than the State. Each cannot interfere with the other. Also, "consent of people" is not absolute.

No.
Church exists inside state and operates under state supremacy.

[Nidaria]

The Church exists in a different sphere than the State. Each cannot interfere with the other. Also, "consent of people" is not absolute.

This is also an argument that can be used for human sacrifice.

It cannot, as God Himself condemned human sacrifice.

[Nidaria]

The Church exists in a different sphere than the State. Each cannot interfere with the other. Also, "consent of people" is not absolute.

No.
Church exists inside state and operates under state supremacy.

The Church exists outside and above the State.

[Wisconsin9]

'Bout damn time!

[Ostroeuropa]

This is also an argument that can be used for human sacrifice.

It cannot, as God Himself condemned human sacrifice.

No he didn't, he said we need to do it to keep the sun rising.
Which high priest have YOU been listening to?!

[Nidaria]

It cannot, as God Himself condemned human sacrifice.

No he didn't, he said we need to do it to keep the sun rising.
Which high priest have YOU been listening to?!

You have been listening to the wrong one.

[Ostroeuropa]

No he didn't, he said we need to do it to keep the sun rising.
Which high priest have YOU been listening to?!

You have been listening to the wrong one.

Why is yours special again? Because its yours? Thats a HUGE ego you have.
Either come up with an actual reason Catholicism is special or go away.

[Abatael]

The Church still does not approve of condoms. Their usage is still condemned.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/2 ... umstances/

You are out of date.
ZOMG REVELATION U GUYS!

We're TOTES not making this up as we go along! God told me it's ok!

That is not an official policy of the Vatican.

It does not matter what laws have been instated by the secular state. In every circumstance, the law of God outweighs the law of the secular state.

You may not follow the law of God, and you may feel it is not important.

No, it doesn't.
In this century, we have accepted supremacy of state whose authority is derived from consent of people; quite move from supremacy of some ancient dude.

It does not matter what you accept. Just as one may accept 2 + 2 = 5, they would be wrong.

The state has no control over the Church.

[Revolutopia]

No he didn't, he said we need to do it to keep the sun rising.
Which high priest have YOU been listening to?!

You have been listening to the wrong one.

Saying yours believes it is more important to protect a rapist then a child (and actively aided in this task), I don't think you have room to talk.

[Great Nepal]

No.
Church exists inside state and operates under state supremacy.

The Church exists outside and above the State.

No, it fucking doesn't.
Supremacy of state is universally accepted among most rational people in this century.

[Nidaria]

You have been listening to the wrong one.

Why is yours special again? Because its yours? Thats a HUGE ego you have.
Either come up with an actual reason Catholicism is special or go away.

Catholicism was established by the Son of God. It is also the only religion actually based on love.

[Nidaria]

The Church exists outside and above the State.

No, it ****ing doesn't.
Supremacy of state is universally accepted among most irrational people in this century.

I fixed that for you.

[Ostroeuropa]

Why is yours special again? Because its yours? Thats a HUGE ego you have.
Either come up with an actual reason Catholicism is special or go away.

Catholicism was established by the Son of God. It is also the only religion actually based on love.

So?
"My" religion was established by the Son of God (HOW FUCKING WEIRD THAT ITS SO COMMON, almost like you guys PLAGIARIZED it), and I can make the bullshit claim that it's based on love too.
So, get on the damn altar, we need your heart.

[Abatael]

The Church exists outside and above the State.

No, it fucking doesn't.
Supremacy of state is universally accepted among most rational people in this century.

Yes, it "fucking" does.

No one gives a crap. You are wrong.

You have been listening to the wrong one.

Saying yours believes it is more important to protect a rapist then a child (and actively aided in this task), I don't think you have room to talk.

No, he has plenty, seeing how he is correct.

[Great Nepal]

It does not matter what you accept. Just as one may accept 2 + 2 = 5, they would be wrong.
The state has no control over the Church.

Yes, it does.
Thats generally why we banned honour killings, human sacrifice, witch hunting and many other religious practice.

[Revolutopia]

Why is yours special again? Because its yours? Thats a HUGE ego you have.
Either come up with an actual reason Catholicism is special or go away.

Catholicism was established by the Son of God. It is also the only religion actually based on love.

Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, Mormons, Jews, Muslims, etc all disagree with the latter. While, the first three also disagree with the former.

And these all have the same validity as catholicism.

[Ostroeuropa]

Why is yours special again? Because its yours? Thats a HUGE ego you have.
Either come up with an actual reason Catholicism is special or go away.

Catholicism was established by the Son of God. It is also the only religion actually based on love.

Oh also, either Judaism is also based on love, in which case at least two religions are, or you are bullshitting.

And if you count them as the same thing, why not Islam.
You have a staggering amount of intellectual dishonesty

[Nidaria]

Catholicism was established by the Son of God. It is also the only religion actually based on love.

So?
"My" religion was established by the Son of God (HOW ****ING WEIRD THAT ITS SO COMMON, almost like you guys PLAGIARIZED it), and I can make the bullshit claim that it's based on love too.
So, get on the damn altar, we need your heart.

If you cannot prove it, you are guilty of blasphemy.

[The Emerald Dawn]

No, it fucking doesn't.
Supremacy of state is universally accepted among most rational people in this century.

Yes, it "fucking" does.

No one gives a crap. You are wrong.

Saying yours believes it is more important to protect a rapist then a child (and actively aided in this task), I don't think you have room to talk.

No, he has plenty, seeing how he is correct.

So your contention is that it is better to protect the penitent than provide comfort to the injured?

See, this is why I hate being a fucking Green.

[Abatael]

It does not matter what you accept. Just as one may accept 2 + 2 = 5, they would be wrong.
The state has no control over the Church.

Yes, it does.
Thats generally why we banned honour killings, human sacrifice, witch hunting and many other religious practice.

No, it doesn't. Why am I even talking to you?

[Ostroeuropa]

So?
"My" religion was established by the Son of God (HOW ****ING WEIRD THAT ITS SO COMMON, almost like you guys PLAGIARIZED it), and I can make the bullshit claim that it's based on love too.
So, get on the damn altar, we need your heart.

If you cannot prove it, you are guilty of blasphemy.

You can't prove catholicism either.

[Nidaria]

It does not matter what you accept. Just as one may accept 2 + 2 = 5, they would be wrong.
The state has no control over the Church.

Yes, it does.
Thats generally why we banned honour killings, human sacrifice, witch hunting and many other religious practice.

Those were never religious practices of the Church.

[Nidaria]

If you cannot prove it, you are guilty of blasphemy.

You can't prove catholicism either.

I can, I could write a lengthy essay here.

[Abatael]

Yes, it "fucking" does.

No one gives a crap. You are wrong.



No, he has plenty, seeing how he is correct.

So your contention is that it is better to protect the penitent than provide comfort to the injured?

See, this is why I hate being a fucking Green.

Have you not been reading any of my posts?

I don't know what a "Green" is.

[Adventus Secundus]

Religious and moral law trumps civil law. This is a clear persecution of the Catholic Church.

Have you stumbled on time machine around fifteenth century?
This is twenty first century, we trend to do things differently around here than in your century.

For any faithful believer, the laws of God do trump the laws of man. Morality is not a temporal or relative affair. I understand why the Catholic Church is unwilling to budge on this particular issue, though I do not necessarily agree with the doctrine of individual, private confession as part of someone's salvation.

Honestly, the problem is the celibacy imposed on Catholic Clergy. If priests were allowed to marry, lust, and the things that sometimes grow out of lust (pedophilia, for example) would be less of a problem. Although the historical reasons for said vow of celibacy, I do appreciate, it still needs to change.

As to the comments that priests are all out for themselves: I call shenanigans! Do you honestly believe someone would foreswear sex (or even marriage) and significant wealth (most priests do lead comfortable lives...but not excessive) to perform ancient rituals and listen to people's sins because they are...in it for themselves? Are you that blind? People do do things out of sincere religious conviction, whether or not you happen to believe as they do.