by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:36 pm
by Czechanada » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:38 pm
Saint Jade IV wrote:So Roman Catholic priests, in a rather ironic twist, are claiming that proposed new laws will violate their most sacred and sacrosanct beliefs, by requiring priests to break the confessional seal and engage in the same mandatory reporting that every other profession is bound by.
Basically, if a priest confesses to paedophilia, they are required to report said priest to the authorities.
I'm unsure what the problem is.
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:39 pm
Czechanada wrote:Saint Jade IV wrote:So Roman Catholic priests, in a rather ironic twist, are claiming that proposed new laws will violate their most sacred and sacrosanct beliefs, by requiring priests to break the confessional seal and engage in the same mandatory reporting that every other profession is bound by.
Basically, if a priest confesses to paedophilia, they are required to report said priest to the authorities.
I'm unsure what the problem is.
Y'see, Roman Catholics have always liked to be above authority, as per the Great Schism.
I for one enjoy seeing oppressive religious establishments finally being reined in.
by The Emerald Dawn » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:40 pm
Saint Jade IV wrote:So Roman Catholic priests, in a rather ironic twist, are claiming that proposed new laws will violate their most sacred and sacrosanct beliefs, by requiring priests to break the confessional seal and engage in the same mandatory reporting that every other profession is bound by.
Basically, if a priest confesses to paedophilia, they are required to report said priest to the authorities.
I'm unsure what the problem is.
by Gauthier » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:41 pm
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:42 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Saint Jade IV wrote:So Roman Catholic priests, in a rather ironic twist, are claiming that proposed new laws will violate their most sacred and sacrosanct beliefs, by requiring priests to break the confessional seal and engage in the same mandatory reporting that every other profession is bound by.
Basically, if a priest confesses to paedophilia, they are required to report said priest to the authorities.
I'm unsure what the problem is.
Churches typically don't enjoy when humans interfere with their bylaws.
The same way that governments don't enjoy it when churches interfere with their laws.
But since the child-raping scum are being held to account, I'm all for it.
by Auralia » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:43 pm
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:43 pm
Gauthier wrote:And here I was hoping it would be a story about priests in Australia about to be buggered.
by Arthuriana » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:44 pm
Saint Jade IV wrote:Czechanada wrote:
Y'see, Roman Catholics have always liked to be above authority, as per the Great Schism.
I for one enjoy seeing oppressive religious establishments finally being reined in.
I just like the fact that finally the special privileges extended to the church and religious institutions in general are starting (slowly) to be repealed.
by Indeos » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:44 pm
by Coccygia » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:44 pm
Auralia wrote:This is ridiculous, even from a pragmatic point of view. Priests would rather be held in contempt of court and thrown in prison than violate the confessional seal.
The title of this thread is extremely misleading.
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:45 pm
Auralia wrote:This is ridiculous, even from a pragmatic point of view. Priests would rather be held in contempt of court and thrown in prison than violate the confessional seal.
by Auralia » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:46 pm
Saint Jade IV wrote:Auralia wrote:This is ridiculous, even from a pragmatic point of view. Priests would rather be held in contempt of court and thrown in prison than violate the confessional seal.
Good - less priests to aid and abet the violating of children. And in prison, they may yet experience the same violations that the children they are endangering experience. It may make them more compassionate to people in the here and now, rather than the hereafter.
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:46 pm
Arthuriana wrote:Saint Jade IV wrote:
I just like the fact that finally the special privileges extended to the church and religious institutions in general are starting (slowly) to be repealed.
I don't. Different organisations are always accorded privileges granted to them by the government, why should religions not be given certain rights?
by Goodclark » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:47 pm
Saint Jade IV wrote:Auralia wrote:This is ridiculous, even from a pragmatic point of view. Priests would rather be held in contempt of court and thrown in prison than violate the confessional seal.
Good - less priests to aid and abet the violating of children. And in prison, they may yet experience the same violations that the children they are endangering experience. It may make them more compassionate to people in the here and now, rather than the hereafter.
by Khornate Worshippers » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:47 pm
Indeos wrote:Considering it's only applicable to a single type of crime that people tend to think is more "icky" than any other, I don't have a problem with this. I'd probably speak differently if they wanted priests and the equivalents from other religions with confession to report every single crime; that would essentially make confession as useful as turning oneself into the police, and it would quickly become useless for catching criminals.
by Viridis Ventus Isle » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:48 pm
by Ceannairceach » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:49 pm
by Saint Jade IV » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:50 pm
Auralia wrote:Saint Jade IV wrote:
Good - less priests to aid and abet the violating of children. And in prison, they may yet experience the same violations that the children they are endangering experience. It may make them more compassionate to people in the here and now, rather than the hereafter.
How shortsighted. Do you genuinely believe that most priests are pedophiles?
by Neutraligon » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:51 pm
Auralia wrote:Saint Jade IV wrote:
Good - less priests to aid and abet the violating of children. And in prison, they may yet experience the same violations that the children they are endangering experience. It may make them more compassionate to people in the here and now, rather than the hereafter.
How shortsighted. Do you genuinely believe that most priests are pedophiles?
by Indeos » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:52 pm
Khornate Worshippers wrote:Indeos wrote:Considering it's only applicable to a single type of crime that people tend to think is more "icky" than any other, I don't have a problem with this. I'd probably speak differently if they wanted priests and the equivalents from other religions with confession to report every single crime; that would essentially make confession as useful as turning oneself into the police, and it would quickly become useless for catching criminals.
The problem is that why should it not be broken, then, for murder, too? Break it for all or none.
by NERVUN » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:52 pm
by Viridis Ventus Isle » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:53 pm
NERVUN wrote:Excuse me for asking, but doesn't Australia have lawyer-client and doctor-patient privileges?
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