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Who was the worst US president in the 20th and 21st centuries?

Woodrow Wilson
35
6%
Herbert Hoover
60
10%
JFK
11
2%
LBJ
16
3%
Nixon
39
6%
Ford
5
1%
Carter
37
6%
George W Bush
256
41%
Obama
96
16%
other (explain below)
62
10%
 
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Postby The Royal Australian Republic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:11 pm

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No valid scores? Most of it is called history.

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Postby Nea So Copros » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:11 pm

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Totalise wrote:and to add insult to injury during a vist by the prince of england and his wife he served them hot-dogs.


I suddenly like him even better. Never let 'em forget who won that war: British royalty can eat hot-dogs or not eat at all!


Actually as crucial America's role in WWII was, it was really the Soviets if anyone who won that war. They in truth fought a great deal of Nazi Germany all on their lonesome, lost the most men, got to Berlin first, had possession of Hitler's remains until 1970 when they burned it , and swept up much of the territory up for grabs after the war (Poland, etc)

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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:11 pm

Reagan hands down.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:12 pm

Woodrow Wilson and George W. Bush
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Postby The Royal Australian Republic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:13 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:Reagan hands down.


What did Reagan do?

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Postby Supreme Pwnage » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:16 pm

Why is everyone hating on the Bush?? He was pretty good. Nixon should be the landslide in my opinion.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:16 pm

Reagan and George W. Carter was probably one of the best presidents in US History, to be honest.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:18 pm

Nixon was a crook, and has therefore gone down as one of the worst presidents in history.
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:19 pm

The Royal Australian Republic wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:Reagan hands down.


What did Reagan do?

Funded some of the worst terrorists in history, oversaw the most destructive privatization and destruction of vital services in American history(esp. mental health facilities,) engaged in round the clock provocation in the attempt to start a conflict to suit his political aims, supported the most disgusting dictatorial regimes in world history, started the trend of ridiculous political polarization, and cemented the relationship between the US and Israel as one of Master(Israel) and Client State(US.) Many, many more ridiculous failures and stupid moves, as well as downright evil motivations on his part. Terrible all around.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:19 pm

Supreme Pwnage wrote:Why is everyone hating on the Bush?? He was pretty good. Nixon should be the landslide in my opinion.



Bush was awful. He signed the Patriot Act, invaded two nations, racked up a massive deficit, engaged in massive Keynesian crony-capitalism with Alan Greenspan and the banks to wreck our economy and then gave a out a bunch of corporate subsidies.

Did I mention the Department of Homeland Security?
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:21 pm

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Supreme Pwnage wrote:Why is everyone hating on the Bush?? He was pretty good. Nixon should be the landslide in my opinion.



Bush was awful. He signed the Patriot Act, invaded two nations, racked up a massive deficit, engaged in massive Keynesian crony-capitalism with Alan Greenspan and the banks to wreck our economy and then gave a out a bunch of corporate subsidies.

Did I mention the Department of Homeland Security?

Nixon dragged on a completely unnecessary war for even longer than Bush, and he was a crook.
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Postby The Royal Australian Republic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:22 pm

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What did Reagan do?

Funded some of the worst terrorists in history, oversaw the most destructive privatization and destruction of vital services in American history(esp. mental health facilities,) engaged in round the clock provocation in the attempt to start a conflict to suit his political aims, supported the most disgusting dictatorial regimes in world history, started the trend of ridiculous political polarization, and cemented the relationship between the US and Israel as one of Master(Israel) and Client State(US.) Many, many more ridiculous failures and stupid moves, as well as downright evil motivations on his part. Terrible all around.


Can you do a better job of explaining that? It's to general.

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:23 pm

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Libertarian California wrote:

Bush was awful. He signed the Patriot Act, invaded two nations, racked up a massive deficit, engaged in massive Keynesian crony-capitalism with Alan Greenspan and the banks to wreck our economy and then gave a out a bunch of corporate subsidies.

Did I mention the Department of Homeland Security?

Nixon dragged on a completely unnecessary war for even longer than Bush, and he was a crook.

Nope. Afghanistan is two years longer so far than Vietnam, Iraq was barely one year shorter. Nixon's greatest crime was destroying the reputation of the political process forever.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:23 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Nixon dragged on a completely unnecessary war for even longer than Bush, and he was a crook.

Nope. Afghanistan is two years longer so far than Vietnam, Iraq was barely one year shorter. Nixon's greatest crime was destroying the reputation of the political process forever.

Afghanistan has been a fighting retreat for a few years now, as I understand. And the Vietnam war took far more lives than the Afghan/Iraq war.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:28 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Nope. Afghanistan is two years longer so far than Vietnam, Iraq was barely one year shorter. Nixon's greatest crime was destroying the reputation of the political process forever.

Afghanistan has been a fighting retreat for a few years now, as I understand. And the Vietnam war took far more lives than the Afghan/Iraq war.



If you want to get pissed about Vietnam, blame Lyndon Johnson, the prick.
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Postby Shnercropolis » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:29 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Shnercropolis wrote:Afghanistan has been a fighting retreat for a few years now, as I understand. And the Vietnam war took far more lives than the Afghan/Iraq war.



If you want to get pissed about Vietnam, blame Lyndon Johnson. He put the draft in, the prick.

yeah, I was having a tough time choosing between him and Nixon.
But Nixon has an actual legal crime too, so I chose him.
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Postby The Royal Australian Republic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:30 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:Reagan and George W. Carter was probably one of the best presidents in US History, to be honest.


Carter? He had no backbone.

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Postby General Themis » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:30 pm

why are people saying Reagan? Didnt he help end the cold war, and get us out of a recession. In my opinion the top 2 worst would be Bush Jr and Nixon
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Postby The Royal Australian Republic » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:31 pm

General Themis wrote:why are people saying Reagan? Didnt he help in the cold war, and get us out of a recession. In my opinion the top 2 worst would be Bush Jr and Nixon


Reagan was good.

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Postby Elwher » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:32 pm

Harry S Truman gets my vote. He was completely in the Union's pockets, he started the policy of sending US troops into combat without the formality of a declaration of war, he did nothing to curb the excesses of McCarthy and the HUAC, and headed one of the most corrupt administrations since Grant. All in all, a deserving candidate for this award.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:33 pm

Woodrow Wilson
GeorgeW. Bush
Richard Nixon
Lyndon Johnson
Franklin Roosevelt
George H.W. Bush
Barack Obama


^These guys all suck
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:34 pm

Elwher wrote:Harry S Truman gets my vote. He was completely in the Union's pockets, he started the policy of sending US troops into combat without the formality of a declaration of war, he did nothing to curb the excesses of McCarthy and the HUAC, and headed one of the most corrupt administrations since Grant. All in all, a deserving candidate for this award.



For the worst president of all time: James Buchanan
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Postby Bythyrona » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:34 pm

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New England and The Maritimes wrote:Funded some of the worst terrorists in history, oversaw the most destructive privatization and destruction of vital services in American history(esp. mental health facilities,) engaged in round the clock provocation in the attempt to start a conflict to suit his political aims, supported the most disgusting dictatorial regimes in world history, started the trend of ridiculous political polarization, and cemented the relationship between the US and Israel as one of Master(Israel) and Client State(US.) Many, many more ridiculous failures and stupid moves, as well as downright evil motivations on his part. Terrible all around.


Can you do a better job of explaining that? It's to general.

1. Iran-Contra scandal, guns for hostages, etc.
2. Privatization of industries
3. Incurred massive budget deficits for an unnecessary build-up of the American military complex to "defeat communism"

To simplify.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:35 pm

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General Themis wrote:why are people saying Reagan? Didnt he help in the cold war, and get us out of a recession. In my opinion the top 2 worst would be Bush Jr and Nixon


Reagan was good at building massive deficits, supporting genocidal religious crazies, setting up puppet dictatorships, starting wars, attacking unions and selling out America to big corporations.
Fixed.
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Postby Libertarian California » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:36 pm

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General Themis wrote:why are people saying Reagan? Didnt he help in the cold war, and get us out of a recession. In my opinion the top 2 worst would be Bush Jr and Nixon


Reagan was good.



Eh...

Iran-Contra was bad. Invading Guatemala and Panama were bad. Giving aid the Afghans to fight the Soviets was bad (as this would haunt us later).

Reagan's foreign policy and the drug war were horrible.

On the economy, he was alright.
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