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Who was the worst US president in the 20th and 21st centuries?

Woodrow Wilson
35
6%
Herbert Hoover
60
10%
JFK
11
2%
LBJ
16
3%
Nixon
39
6%
Ford
5
1%
Carter
37
6%
George W Bush
256
41%
Obama
96
16%
other (explain below)
62
10%
 
Total votes : 617

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:46 pm

Domassia wrote:I guess FDR is not on this list because then we'd have to choose between him and obama.

I guess Reagen is not on this list because then we'd have to choose between him and GWB.
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Postby Sedikal » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:46 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Domassia wrote:I guess FDR is not on this list because then we'd have to choose between him and obama.

I like Obama.

obama woldnt be so bad if he could just not let the radicals on caoital hill influance him so much.
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Postby Edward Richtofen » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:47 pm

this may be off topic but
only on NS can you find patriotic americans who think T.Roosevelt and FDR were terrible presidnets and who think Reagan was an incredibly horrible president while most americans put him in the top 5 greatest
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:47 pm

Sedikal wrote:
Bojikami wrote:I like Obama.

obama woldnt be so bad if he could just not let the radicals on caoital hill influance him so much.

Exactly. If he just did his own thing America would be a lot better off in my opinion
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Postby Poobah » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:49 pm

Carter had the title for years. Now he's in 2nd place after 0bama.
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Postby Sedikal » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:50 pm

Bojikami wrote:
Sedikal wrote:obama woldnt be so bad if he could just not let the radicals on caoital hill influance him so much.

Exactly. If he just did his own thing America would be a lot better off in my opinion

but obamacare was him shooting himself in the foot honestly, i love the idea but yeah the way it was to be exicuted was horible. if they lowerd the bisness tax then it would have been as bad consitering the some buisnesses cant affored the healthcare.
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Postby Paixao » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:51 pm

Bush or Hoover;

Both incompetent imbeciles that blundered their way through the presidency.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:53 pm

Sedikal wrote:
Bojikami wrote:Exactly. If he just did his own thing America would be a lot better off in my opinion

but obamacare was him shooting himself in the foot honestly, i love the idea but yeah the way it was to be exicuted was horible. if they lowerd the bisness tax then it would have been as bad consitering the some buisnesses cant affored the healthcare.

I think Americas problem is that if anything leftist has a chance of gaining power the liberals are ok with it then you have the conservatives barking and bowling like frenzied dogs.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:09 pm

Nixon, I will never forget nor forgive the way he organized the military coup against Salvador Allende, and washed the hopes of the chilean people in blood and 30 years of tyranny.
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Postby Scholencia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:11 pm

Troll-Ogre-Goblin Kingdom wrote:I'm torn between Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter. Nixon broke the law and was a crook, but at least he got some work done. Jimmy Carter had a record of incompetence and failed leadership. But does it seem that way only because of things outside of any president's control? Maybe if he had been elected to a second term, the economy and foreign affairs would have improved anyway. Or maybe not.

But what do you think?

I would say JFK because he did not have leader skills which resulted to the Berlin crisis and the threat from Cuba. He could not even fix properly the problems he caused ("ich bin ein berliner" was an epic fail considering that there were nazis still there). He was dedicated moe with the affairs than to his presidency and while he was doing that J. Edhar Hoover was the person who solved all problems. He also would never become president if there wasnt his paps who had lobbies.

Since jfk Hoover was the de facto leader of america and all his success of the later presidents we have thank to him.

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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:11 pm

Arkinesia wrote:Open challenge to everyone who says Bush 43 was the worst President of the 21st century.

List for me the transgressions Bush 43 committed without listing Gitmo, the War On Terror, or the PATRIOT Act.

Go.

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Postby Liriena » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:46 pm

Kilobugya wrote:Nixon, I will never forget nor forgive the way he organized the military coup against Salvador Allende, and washed the hopes of the chilean people in blood and 30 years of tyranny.


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Postby Anarcosyndiclic Peons » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:51 pm

Hoover, no contest. He's the worst president we've ever had and is responsible for the great depression reaching the depths that it did. His domestic policy was despicable, his foreign policy lackluster, and he was just an all-around poor statesman.

I feel like all the votes for Bush are only there because we remember him most clearly. He barely makes it in to my bottom 10.

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Postby Gaveo » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:09 pm

Kilobugya wrote:Nixon, I will never forget nor forgive the way he organized the military coup against Salvador Allende, and washed the hopes of the chilean people in blood and 30 years of tyranny.

I applaud him that he did that, Allende was going to destroy Chile and make it another Cuba.
Bruh.

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Postby Fintanland » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:19 pm

Poobah wrote:Carter had the title for years. Now he's in 2nd place after 0bama.

Oh please. Two presidents who were/are slightly above or below the average the WORST? Worse than Hoover and Coolidge, the "Depression Duo of Doom"? Worse than Nixon? Worse than HARDING?
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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:19 pm

-_- no surprise everyone jumped on the Bush Bandwagon...
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Postby Gaveo » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:20 pm

Fintanland wrote:
Poobah wrote:Carter had the title for years. Now he's in 2nd place after 0bama.

Oh please. Two presidents who were/are slightly above or below the average the WORST? Worse than Hoover and Coolidge, the "Depression Duo of Doom"? Worse than Nixon? Worse than HARDING?

Harding was good, Coolidge pretty cool but I agree Hoover sucked.
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Postby Fintanland » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:20 pm

Gaveo wrote:I applaud him that he did that, Allende was going to destroy Chile and make it another Cuba.

Oh, so military coups are okay now if you do not agree with the president? What the hell?

EDIT: Not to mention the absolutely lovely Sweetheart the Yowly Monster of Yorba Linda installed in his place...
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:21 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:Nixon, I will never forget nor forgive the way he organized the military coup against Salvador Allende, and washed the hopes of the chilean people in blood and 30 years of tyranny.

I applaud him that he did that, Allende was going to destroy Chile and make it another Cuba.

DAFUQ DID YOU SAY ABOUT CUBA?
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Postby Lesbia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:21 pm

North Calaveras wrote:-_- no surprise everyone jumped on the Bush Bandwagon...


That's exactly what it is. For anyone to allege he was the worst is outrageous.
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Postby Gaveo » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Fintanland wrote:
Gaveo wrote:I applaud him that he did that, Allende was going to destroy Chile and make it another Cuba.

Oh, so military coups are okay now if you do not agree with the president? What the hell?

Look almost half of Chile disagreed with him plus he started going against the Chilean constitution, and because we had no way of impeaching him we had no choice but to do the Coup.
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Gaveo wrote:I applaud him that he did that, Allende was going to destroy Chile and make it another Cuba.

DAFUQ DID YOU SAY ABOUT CUBA?

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That Cuba is a communist country...
Bruh.

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Postby Galla- » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Hoover. A tie between him and JFK.
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Postby Bojikami » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:23 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Fintanland wrote:Oh, so military coups are okay now if you do not agree with the president? What the hell?

Look almost half of Chile disagreed with him plus he started going against the Chilean constitution, and because we had no way of impeaching him we had no choice but to do the Coup.
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Postby New Fraulasia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:23 pm

I'm not going to talk about good leadership or lack thereof, but Nixon was the only president to resign.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:23 pm

Lesbia wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:-_- no surprise everyone jumped on the Bush Bandwagon...


That's exactly what it is. For anyone to allege he was the worst is outrageous.


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