Who was worst US president in the 20th and 21st centuries?

[Homosexy]

George W Bush
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[Radiatia]

I'm going to have to say George W. Bush, predictably. His only redeeming feature was that he signed the "No Child Left Behind Act".

Apart from that he was terrible in foreign policy, terrible in economic policy and terrible in social policy.

[Homosexy]

I'm going to have to say George W. Bush, predictably. His only redeeming feature was that he signed the "No Child Left Behind Act".

Apart from that he was terrible in foreign policy, terrible in economic policy and terrible in social policy.

No Child Left Behind, while at the time it may have seemed like a good idea, is a joke.

[Radiatia]

I'm going to have to say George W. Bush, predictably. His only redeeming feature was that he signed the "No Child Left Behind Act".

Apart from that he was terrible in foreign policy, terrible in economic policy and terrible in social policy.

No Child Left Behind, while at the time it may have seemed like a good idea, is a joke.

How so?

I don't really follow US politics much, given that the entire thing is a joke, but I'm pretty much in favour of any President willing to admit that federal government intervention is necessary to prevent and contain the massive decline in the United States education system.

Nevertheless, that was his best point. If it is a joke as you claim, then that reflects very badly on his Presidency.

[Asasia]

Bush II Hands Down Worst President

[Grave_n_idle]

I'm not saying Obama is innocent in all of this, but Bush did walk into office with a surplus and he did spend more than he had. He then initiated some big programs like TARP that his successor carried on. That's the fundamental difference there.

Bush and Obama are both big spenders which I despise. But the debt numbers favor Bush as far as being more fiscally responsible (not that he was by any means).

No, they don't. And we do this every time.

Reagan was pretty terrible. Bush Jr might have been worse on some metrics, but it was Reagan who was the face of the idea that the government is your enemy. Reagan will probably be proved by history to be the single biggest contributor to American decline.

[Bojikami]

"LBJ is the worst on this list. He believes businesses should be forced to be tolerant "
I'm sorry you can't refuse black people to enter your store, but we all must make sacrifices.
"extramarital affairs while in office."
What bearing does this have on his presidential ability?
"GW Bush is evil"
Evil? I think that's a bit extreme.
" planned the 9/11 attacks "
No, Bush did not plan the 9/11 attacks, just no.
" lied about his religion to get into power"
Proof?

Government approved racism is wrong but private businesses should be allowed to discriminate if they want to. It should be my right to be a bigot if I choose.

Extramarital affairs make you a worse president because you set a bad example for your countrymen. A president must set a good example. If you can't be honest with your wife than how can you be expected to be honest with your fellow countrymen?

Yes, GW Bush was EVIL! He murdered thousands with his lies. He is partially responsible for thousands of deaths. Charles Manson is still in jail while Bush is relaxing at his ranch and how many did Manson help kill? Lying to go to Iraq is treason and Bush should get the death penalty (firing squad in my opinion). Also 9/11 was planned from Washington. There are videos about this. Look at the way the buildings fell, perfect implosion. There is other proof as well in the videos.

Yes, my last post in my reply to another person discusses Obama's likelihood of being Muslim. Creepingsharia.com, Atlasshrugged.com are good websites to check out on this issue.

FASCIST!

[Liriena]

Hoover, duh!

[Homosexy]

No Child Left Behind, while at the time it may have seemed like a good idea, is a joke.

How so?

I don't really follow US politics much, given that the entire thing is a joke, but I'm pretty much in favour of any President willing to admit that federal government intervention is necessary to prevent and contain the massive decline in the United States education system.

Nevertheless, that was his best point. If it is a joke as you claim, then that reflects very badly on his Presidency.

I was in school both before and after the No Child Left Behind. It may have started as a good idea, but it didn't help. What I always thought it was going to be was help the kids who are left behind exceed their expectations and help them get up to the same level as the rest of the kids, and the kids who excel and go above and beyond expectations, that'd be okay too.
What ended up happening was we stopped leaving children behind because there was no opportunity for children to get ahead. It wasn't, help one kid up, it was drag the rest of them down. And this coming from my personal experience and research before and after.

It kind of reminds me of those soccer games that so many kids are having now, where they don't count score. It's ridiculous, and it doesn't prepare kids to be winners in life.

[Tyrants]

Government approved racism is wrong but private businesses should be allowed to discriminate if they want to. It should be my right to be a bigot if I choose.

Extramarital affairs make you a worse president because you set a bad example for your countrymen. A president must set a good example. If you can't be honest with your wife than how can you be expected to be honest with your fellow countrymen?

Yes, GW Bush was EVIL! He murdered thousands with his lies. He is partially responsible for thousands of deaths. Charles Manson is still in jail while Bush is relaxing at his ranch and how many did Manson help kill? Lying to go to Iraq is treason and Bush should get the death penalty (firing squad in my opinion). Also 9/11 was planned from Washington. There are videos about this. Look at the way the buildings fell, perfect implosion. There is other proof as well in the videos.

Yes, my last post in my reply to another person discusses Obama's likelihood of being Muslim. Creepingsharia.com, Atlasshrugged.com are good websites to check out on this issue.

FASCIST!

HAG!

[Bojikami]

FASCIST!

HAG!

MOTHER CUBA!

[Tyrants]

HAG!

MOTHER CUBA!

No, you just ruined it. It's a quote from Hot Fuzz.

[Bojikami]

MOTHER CUBA!

No, you just ruined it. It's a quote from Hot Fuzz.

Oh sorry. Is that an American movie? If so I must look it up on YouTube.

[Tyrants]

No, you just ruined it. It's a quote from Hot Fuzz.

Oh sorry. Is that an American movie? If so I must look it up on YouTube.

It's a British fim starring Simon Pegg. (Paul, Shaun of the Dead)

[Aglrinia]

Oh, definitely Washington or Lincoln. FDR was terrible too.

Joking. XD I'd say Wilson, George W Bush, LBJ, Hoover, Nixon, Tyler, Reagan, Harding and Buchanan were amongst the worst. Obamas bad, but not that bad in comparison. People are just hating cause he's the current President.

The question is "Who was the worst US president in the 20th and 21st centuries?" Therefore Washington and Lincoln aren't an option even you're saying it out of jest. While although I agree that Presidents Tyler, and Buchanan were rather horrid that don't fit in that time frame.

I'm guessing you're one of the people that let Vietnam overshadow Lyndon B. Johnson's presidency despite the fact that he did tremendous work for civil rights. While despite the fact that Woodrow Wilson originally sidestepped the issue of Women's rights he later became a huge supporter of women's suffrage, he even approached the house personally (Something that was quite rare back than) and made a strong and widely published appeal to the House to pass the nineteenth amendment.

[AiliailiA]

Hoover, duh!

Ah, but which Hoover?

How so?

I don't really follow US politics much, given that the entire thing is a joke, but I'm pretty much in favour of any President willing to admit that federal government intervention is necessary to prevent and contain the massive decline in the United States education system.

Nevertheless, that was his best point. If it is a joke as you claim, then that reflects very badly on his Presidency.

I was in school both before and after the No Child Left Behind. It may have started as a good idea, but it didn't help. What I always thought it was going to be was help the kids who are left behind exceed their expectations and help them get up to the same level as the rest of the kids, and the kids who excel and go above and beyond expectations, that'd be okay too.
What ended up happening was we stopped leaving children behind because there was no opportunity for children to get ahead. It wasn't, help one kid up, it was drag the rest of them down. And this coming from my personal experience and research before and after.

Before that, beginning in the 70's, was a wider policy of the same intent. Including, but not limited to, "mainstreaming" where special needs kids were taken out of special schools and put into mainstream schools (particularly public schools).

Like No Child Left Behind, that was an unfunded mandate. Well intentioned but insufficiently funded. The instigators either did not know themselves or could not win public (political) support for the rather huge cost of doing it right, and may have done harm to the ideal. Worse, they may have done harm to actual people (students) by half-assing it.

The road to good intentions is cobbled with broken dreams ... er, something. I may have the saying wrong.

It kind of reminds me of those soccer games that so many kids are having now, where they don't count score. It's ridiculous, and it doesn't prepare kids to be winners in life.

The only way to win at life is to enjoy it, and that is not so easily achieved as to kick a ball into a goal.

[Conservative Idealism]

I'm surprised and offended that FDR wasn't up here. He did, after all, strengthen the bureaucracy several-fold and pass reform after socialist reform until the economy finally bounced back...as a result of WWII's war industry.

But, Wilson was likely the worst anyway. He segregated the entire executive branch (as few know, he was likely our most racist president), established a permanent federal income tax, attempted to get us into the hopelessly WWI-centered League of Nations, created the Federal Reserve, and passed the Espionage and Sedition Acts.

[AiliailiA]

/thread

You say, but five minutes and two posts later ... there you are back in the thread.

Whether you meant to end the thread or to leave the thread, you conspicuously failed to keep your word.

[Bojikami]

Oh sorry. Is that an American movie? If so I must look it up on YouTube.

It's a British fim starring Simon Pegg. (Paul, Shaun of the Dead)

Oh. Don't get those movies down in Cuba.

[Divair]

I'm surprised and offended that FDR wasn't up here. He did, after all, strengthen the bureaucracy several-fold and pass reform after socialist reform until the economy finally bounced back...as a result of WWII's war industry.

You're hilarious.

[AiliailiA]

I'm surprised and offended that FDR wasn't up here. He did, after all, strengthen the bureaucracy several-fold and pass reform after socialist reform until the economy finally bounced back...as a result of WWII's war industry.

But, Wilson was likely the worst anyway. He segregated the entire executive branch (as few know, he was likely our most racist president), established a permanent federal income tax, attempted to get us into the hopelessly WWI-centered League of Nations, created the Federal Reserve, and passed the Espionage and Sedition Acts.

But Ron Paul could make it all good, amiright?

[Divair]

I'm surprised and offended that FDR wasn't up here. He did, after all, strengthen the bureaucracy several-fold and pass reform after socialist reform until the economy finally bounced back...as a result of WWII's war industry.

But, Wilson was likely the worst anyway. He segregated the entire executive branch (as few know, he was likely our most racist president), established a permanent federal income tax, attempted to get us into the hopelessly WWI-centered League of Nations, created the Federal Reserve, and passed the Espionage and Sedition Acts.

But Ron Paul could make it all good, amiright?

No, but Ayn Rand can

[Liriena]

Hoover, duh!

Ah, but which Hoover?

When you've been through Herbert and J. Edgar Hoover anything else is a laugh.

[Liriena]

But Ron Paul could make it all good, amiright?

No, but Ayn Rand can

Zombie Rand 2016: 'Cause America obviously needs a lousy atheist writer with an attitude in charge.

[AiliailiA]

I'm surprised and offended that FDR wasn't up here. He did, after all, strengthen the bureaucracy several-fold and pass reform after socialist reform until the economy finally bounced back...as a result of WWII's war industry.

You're hilarious.

I say "trogloditious" because the spell checker just won't give me "hilarious" when I begin with "tro.."

There's only so much that adding a word to the dictionary can achieve.