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Who was the worst US president in the 20th and 21st centuries?

Woodrow Wilson
35
6%
Herbert Hoover
60
10%
JFK
11
2%
LBJ
16
3%
Nixon
39
6%
Ford
5
1%
Carter
37
6%
George W Bush
256
41%
Obama
96
16%
other (explain below)
62
10%
 
Total votes : 617

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Postby Giroad » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:01 am

I think the poll says it all. Nuff said.
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Postby Kleomentia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:01 am

Giroad wrote:I think the poll says it all. Nuff said.

Indeed.
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Postby Gigaverse » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:02 am

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Postby Giroad » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:04 am

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We don't export cheese, cos we eat it all.

We are Scousers.


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Postby CTALNH » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:05 am

Kleomentia wrote:
Giroad wrote:I think the poll says it all. Nuff said.

Indeed.

Indeed ape man is the worse of all of them.
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Postby Forgotten Collective » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:07 am

Sheltopolis wrote:The deficit has not gone down year-by-year. When Bush left we stood at $10 trillion debt, and here we are at $16. Bush gave us $4 trillion is his 8 years, Obama has bestowed upon us $6 trillion in one term.


The deficit and the debt are not the same thing. The national debt is your total outstanding debt. The deficit is how much more you spent in a fiscal year, then you took in. That's why they are two different words.

For example, if your household budget says you need to spend $150, and your income is $100, you have a deficit of $50. If you've been that way all year, you have a household debt of $600 to deal with.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:51 am

Bush II, Hoover, Reagan.
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Postby Romalae » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:58 am

Dubya Bush, LBJ, Hoover
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Postby Aglrinia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:03 am

Mike the Progressive wrote:Carter and Bush Jr.

You would seriously place Herbert Hoover above Jimmy Carter?
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:05 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Seriong wrote:
"LBJ is the worst on this list. He believes businesses should be forced to be tolerant "
I'm sorry you can't refuse black people to enter your store, but we all must make sacrifices.
"extramarital affairs while in office."
What bearing does this have on his presidential ability?
"GW Bush is evil"
Evil? I think that's a bit extreme.
" planned the 9/11 attacks "
No, Bush did not plan the 9/11 attacks, just no.
" lied about his religion to get into power"
Proof?


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Extramarital affairs make you a worse president because you set a bad example for your countrymen. A president must set a good example. If you can't be honest with your wife than how can you be expected to be honest with your fellow countrymen?

Yes, GW Bush was EVIL! He murdered thousands with his lies. He is partially responsible for thousands of deaths. Charles Manson is still in jail while Bush is relaxing at his ranch and how many did Manson help kill? Lying to go to Iraq is treason and Bush should get the death penalty (firing squad in my opinion). Also 9/11 was planned from Washington. There are videos about this. Look at the way the buildings fell, perfect implosion. There is other proof as well in the videos.

Yes, my last post in my reply to another person discusses Obama's likelihood of being Muslim. Creepingsharia.com, Atlasshrugged.com are good websites to check out on this issue.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:06 am

Troll-Ogre-Goblin Kingdom wrote:I'm torn between Richard Nixon and Jimmy Carter. Nixon broke the law and was a crook, but at least he got some work done. Jimmy Carter had a record of incompetence and failed leadership. But does it seem that way only because of things outside of any president's control? Maybe if he had been elected to a second term, the economy and foreign affairs would have improved anyway. Or maybe not.

But what do you think?


I think that you are You-Gi-Owe. And the Worst President of the 20th and 21st Centuries is still to come.

Herbert Hoover otherwise.
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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:34 am

Oh, definitely Washington or Lincoln. FDR was terrible too.

Joking. XD I'd say Wilson, George W Bush, LBJ, Hoover, Nixon, Tyler, Reagan, Harding and Buchanan were amongst the worst. Obamas bad, but not that bad in comparison. People are just hating cause he's the current President.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:35 am

Eaglleia wrote:Oh, definitely Washington or Lincoln. FDR was terrible too.

Worse than Bush?

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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:38 am

Divair wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Oh, definitely Washington or Lincoln. FDR was terrible too.

Worse than Bush?

Yes, they were horrible. It depends on which Bush you're referring too. H.W Bush was pretty bad, but W.Bush was brilliant.

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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:39 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Divair wrote:Worse than Bush?

Yes, they were horrible. It depends on which Bush you're referring too. H.W Bush was pretty bad, but W.Bush was brilliant.

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What kind of horrible satire is this?

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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:40 am

Troll-Ogre-Goblin Kingdom wrote:But what do you think?

Reagan.

He fucked up both the US governmental debt and the US industrial sector, almost single-handedly leading to one of the worst ecomonical crisis America has faced. All while lying through his (fake) teeth about stuff like, let's say, the Iran-Contra affair? Or helping the future Talibans? Or being buddy-buddy with Saddam Hussein?
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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:40 am

Divair wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Yes, they were horrible. It depends on which Bush you're referring too. H.W Bush was pretty bad, but W.Bush was brilliant.

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What kind of horrible satire is this?

Stop hating on my opinons! D:<

(and read the minuscule writing on my original post)

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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:41 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Divair wrote:What kind of horrible satire is this?

Stop hating on my opinons! D:<

(and read the minuscule writing on my original post)

Should have added that before you posted something like that.

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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:42 am

Divair wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Stop hating on my opinons! D:<

(and read the minuscule writing on my original post)

Should have added that before you posted something like that.

Yes, well, obvious sarcasm should be obvious. I don't think anyone actually thinks that.
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Postby Vecherd » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:43 am

Oh god, all of them.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:43 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Divair wrote:Should have added that before you posted something like that.

Yes, well, obvious sarcasm should be obvious. I don't think anyone actually thinks that.

You need to visit NSG more.

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Postby Eaglleia » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:45 am

Divair wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:Yes, well, obvious sarcasm should be obvious. I don't think anyone actually thinks that.

You need to visit NSG more.

I'm pretty sure most of them aren't serious, then again.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:45 am

I don't have a deep enough knowledge of American history to judge the ones I wasn't alive for, so of the ones from JFK onwards I would say George W Bush followed by Reagan.
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Postby Divair » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:46 am

Eaglleia wrote:
Divair wrote:You need to visit NSG more.

I'm pretty sure most of them aren't serious, then again.

You really need to visit NSG more.

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Postby Manahakatouki » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:49 am

I haven't lived through many of the presidents, and I'm not the most knowledgable on the subject of American politics, but I'll safely say GWB was perhaps the worst...
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