Woman dies in Ireland for want of an abortion

[Condunum]

And by the same logic, we have no right to kill a mosquito for sucking blood.

I wholeheartedly agree. We have absolutely no right to kill a mosquito for sucking blood.

I never said I supported that, I was just extending your logic, which I find rather demented.

Life is not sacred.

[United Guildomes]

As a pro-life christian, I say that the doctors committed murder.
Also: Has the IRA done anything?

[The Irish Marchlands]

"Gasp! A horrible tragedy!? Quick! Politicise it!" - NSG in a nutshell.

[Condunum]

As a pro-life christian, I say that the doctors committed murder.
Also: Has the IRA done anything?

You don't want to use abortion to save the mother?
How nice.

[Condunum]

"Gasp! A horrible tragedy!? Quick! Politicise it!" - NSG in a nutshell.

It's a forum. If you don't want to use it for it's intended purpose, leave.

[Neutraligon]

"Gasp! A horrible tragedy!? Quick! Politicise it!" - NSG in a nutshell.

When these types of tragedies occur, questions need to be asked.

[Xeng He]

So if I need a kidney I can just take it from you?
Or is it just women that don't have a right to bodily integrity?

If I was also responsible for the loss of your kidneys, and I also could've given you two new kidneys at no cost to me earlier, but didn't?

Yes.

[Dyakovo]

So if I need a kidney I can just take it from you?
Or is it just women that don't have a right to bodily integrity?

If I was also responsible for the loss of your kidneys, and I also could've given you two new kidneys at no cost to me earlier, but didn't?

Yes.

In other words, yes, it is just women that lack the right to bodily integrity...

[Tlaceceyaya]

So if I need a kidney I can just take it from you?
Or is it just women that don't have a right to bodily integrity?

If I was also responsible for the loss of your kidneys, and I also could've given you two new kidneys at no cost to me earlier, but didn't?

Yes.

Because obviously when a woman gets pregnant, it's her fault. Should've made him wear two condoms because she knew that just one would break. Should've accused him of legitimate rape so the body would shut that whole thing down.

How about, rather than punish her, we deal with the situation in the most reasonable way? Kill the clump of cells that's feeding off of her and is causing her distress.

[Xeng He]

In other words, yes, it is just women that lack the right to bodily integrity...

Ahm, no.

Women can choose not to donate their extra kidney as well.

[Grimlundt]

well
Anybody who thinks that the government ought to ban abortions is a dunce.
Legalizing abortion has little or no impact on rates of abortion.
Bannimng it just leads to more tragedies as girls bleed to death from botched abortions, etc.
Also, anybody who thinks they can say what's wright or wrong on such an issue has probably NEVER been confronted with it. I mean, they have never been carrying an unwanted pregnancy.

I saw a moron on here early who said that if you had sex, you had no right to not go through with the pregnancy.
LOL
That moron clearly never had an unwanted pregnancy.
He is probably a man -- so he can;t get pregnant.
And probably never had sex, either.

Then there was another imbecile who thinks women can do whatever they like as long as they do not deviate from their "primary purpose" as baby factories. LOL
Where do these morons come from?

[Xeng He]

Because obviously when a woman gets pregnant, it's her fault. Should've made him wear two condoms because she knew that just one would break. Should've accused him of legitimate rape so the body would shut that whole thing down.

When a woman knows she's pregnant and doesn't have an early-term abortion, before the fetus is actually a fetus and not an embryo, it is her fault.

How about, rather than punish her, we deal with the situation in the most reasonable way? Kill the clump of cells that's feeding off of her and is causing her distress.

Even when the clump of cells has a functioning brain, eyes, and in general what's required to emulate the degree of consciousness of a baby?

[Dyakovo]

In other words, yes, it is just women that lack the right to bodily integrity...

Ahm, no.

Women can choose not to donate their extra kidney as well.

So they just can't choose to not be used as an incubator...

Gotta punish those sluts somehow I guess...

[South Asia Minor]

Feckin' Irish.

[Galloism]

Because obviously when a woman gets pregnant, it's her fault. Should've made him wear two condoms because she knew that just one would break. Should've accused him of legitimate rape so the body would shut that whole thing down.

When a woman knows she's pregnant and doesn't have an early-term abortion, before the fetus is actually a fetus and not an embryo, it is her fault.

How about, rather than punish her, we deal with the situation in the most reasonable way? Kill the clump of cells that's feeding off of her and is causing her distress.

Even when the clump of cells has a functioning brain, eyes, and in general what's required to emulate the degree of consciousness of a baby?

I wish I had those two pictures Bottle always uses, and asks people which one is the human fetus.

Aha... my searching-fu works again, finally

The following two images of embryos in the first trimester.

Which is human?




Here's a human and a dolphin about 4 weeks in. Which one is human?





All credit for this post goes to Bottle.

[Neutraligon]

Because obviously when a woman gets pregnant, it's her fault. Should've made him wear two condoms because she knew that just one would break. Should've accused him of legitimate rape so the body would shut that whole thing down.

When a woman knows she's pregnant and doesn't have an early-term abortion, before the fetus is actually a fetus and not an embryo, it is her fault.

How about, rather than punish her, we deal with the situation in the most reasonable way? Kill the clump of cells that's feeding off of her and is causing her distress.

Even when the clump of cells has a functioning brain, eyes, and in general what's required to emulate the degree of consciousness of a baby?

And if the law makes it difficult to get an early abortion?

[Dyakovo]

When a woman knows she's pregnant and doesn't have an early-term abortion, before the fetus is actually a fetus and not an embryo, it is her fault.



Even when the clump of cells has a functioning brain, eyes, and in general what's required to emulate the degree of consciousness of a baby?

And if the law makes it difficult to get an early abortion?

Then the "pro-lifers" get to wank to another slut getting punished.

[Galloism]

And if the law makes it difficult to get an early abortion?

Then the "pro-lifers" get to walk to another slit getting punished.

I've punished a few slits in my time, but their owners enjoyed it.

*nods sagely*

[Syunticla]

This is why we need to research life support for fetuses. They could have taken it out and hooked the guy up without having to risk the mother's life.

As a Christian, yes, I agree. This would give life and save life.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

<snipped>
Anybody who thinks that the government ought to ban abortions is a dunce.

I saw a moron on here early ... <snippage>
That moron clearly never had an unwanted pregnancy.
He is probably a man -- so he can;t get pregnant.
And probably never had sex, either.

Then there was another imbecile <snip moar>
Where do these morons come from?

Emphasis mine. Where? Same place you came from obviously. Will clue you in on a little something - opinions are not against the rules, in most cases. How one expresses them, however ... there's the rub. Lines. You're crossing them. Kindly stop with the crossings, and cut out the namecalling and baiting and what not. Thanks.

[Condunum]

Then the "pro-lifers" get to walk to another slit getting punished.

I've punished a few slits in my time, but their owners enjoyed it.

*nods sagely*

If there was an award for pushing the PG-13 boundary...

[Laerod]

<snipped>
Anybody who thinks that the government ought to ban abortions is a dunce.

I saw a moron on here early ... <snippage>
That moron clearly never had an unwanted pregnancy.
He is probably a man -- so he can;t get pregnant.
And probably never had sex, either.

Then there was another imbecile <snip moar>
Where do these morons come from?

Emphasis mine. Where? Same place you came from obviously. Will clue you in on a little something - opinions are not against the rules, in most cases. How one expresses them, however ... there's the rub. Lines. You're crossing them. Kindly stop with the crossings, and cut out the namecalling and baiting and what not. Thanks.

Just as helpful advice, bold text tends to be really hard to read, particularly when clicking directly on a post. Maybe underline or color it instead to make it more obvious?

[Dyakovo]

Then the "pro-lifers" get to walk to another slit getting punished.

I've punished a few slits in my time, but their owners enjoyed it.

*nods sagely*

Fucking autocorrect...

[Galloism]

I've punished a few slits in my time, but their owners enjoyed it.

*nods sagely*

If there was an award for pushing the PG-13 boundary...

I would not even be close to winning it.

I've punished a few slits in my time, but their owners enjoyed it.

*nods sagely*

Fucking autocorrect...

That's gotta suck.

I had no idea prolifers were so into BDSM.

[Grinning Dragon]

I have a question, in the OP statement he posted this "It is legal to travel abroad for abortion services," how can they stop a person from traveling outside of the country to obtain one?
Other than that, I find this whole thing mind-boggling, why didn't this couple try to leave the country and go elsewhere?