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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:22 pm

Sabara wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:that would be treason, punishable be death, no?

or let me guess, wah everyone would pick on poor israel a bloo bloo bloo


Oh yes. Everyone does pick on Israel. The Media. CNN. MSNBC.

And Delan: I totally agree. If the Israelis cracked down on their human rights, the Internation Community would be scandalized! But when Palestine actually does that, nobody makes a peep. :roll:

ISRAEL IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, OUR GREATEST ALL- why are people criticizing us?! don't you know brutal terrorist groups and dictatorships do it too? stop picking on us. also please continue giving us billions of dollars of "aid".
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Postby Sabara » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:22 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Oh yes. Everyone does pick on Israel. The Media. CNN. MSNBC.

And Delan: I totally agree. If the Israelis cracked down on their human rights, the Internation Community would be scandalized! But when Palestine actually does that, nobody makes a peep. :roll:

bbc, oxfam, ITN, ITV, CCN, MSNBC, amnesty international, everyone is out to get poor widdle iswael


Exactly! You are exactly right!

The reason of less deaths in Israel is also probably attributed to a better health and immediate care system. Also, if you remember, Palestine hasn't been exactly "innocent". They are the ones who started the rocket launching. Israel's just retaliating to defend itself.
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Postby Divair » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:22 pm

CNN just reported that Egypt (the moderator of the negotiations) has no plans of announcing a ceasefire.


fml

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Postby Sabara » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:23 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Oh yes. Everyone does pick on Israel. The Media. CNN. MSNBC.

And Delan: I totally agree. If the Israelis cracked down on their human rights, the Internation Community would be scandalized! But when Palestine actually does that, nobody makes a peep. :roll:

ISRAEL IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, OUR GREATEST ALL- why are people criticizing us?! don't you know brutal terrorist groups and dictatorships do it too? stop picking on us. also please continue giving us billions of dollars of "aid".


It is the only democracy besides Turkey, lol, which is why we need to defend it.

:lol:
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:24 pm

Divair wrote:CNN just reported that Egypt (the moderator of the negotiations) has no plans of announcing a ceasefire.


fml

It is good that Egypt is being forthcoming about it. Rather than not saying anything and letting Hamas or Israel dictate press.

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Postby Delanshar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:26 pm

Divair wrote:CNN just reported that Egypt (the moderator of the negotiations) has no plans of announcing a ceasefire.


fml


A few hours ago it was "imminent" and now there are no plans? Jeez, this conflict plays out like a bloody soap opera.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:26 pm

Sabara wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:bbc, oxfam, ITN, ITV, CCN, MSNBC, amnesty international, everyone is out to get poor widdle iswael


Exactly! You are exactly right!

The reason of less deaths in Israel is also probably attributed to a better health and immediate care system.


Proof, bitte.

Also, if you remember, Palestine hasn't been exactly "innocent". They are the ones who started the rocket launching.


Why did the rocket launching start again? Oh right, the Israeli government assassinated Hamas' equivalent of Leon Panetta or Ehud Barak.

Israel's just retaliating to defend itself.


:palm:

Hamas are not very nice, but let's not solely blame them for this, OK?

Divair wrote:CNN just reported that Egypt (the moderator of the negotiations) has no plans of announcing a ceasefire.


fml


Damn.
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Postby Divair » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:26 pm

The greater consequence of the failed negotiations:
The possibility of a ground invasion is present again.

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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:26 pm

Delanshar wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:bbc, oxfam, ITN, ITV, CCN, MSNBC, amnesty international, everyone is out to get poor widdle iswael


How else would you explain the obvious double standards. Seriously just suppose tomorrow in central Tel Aviv 6 left wing activists are shot dead by Mossad for "collaborating with Hamas". The international outrage would cause an earthquake.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-upda ... 2010-04-15

oh hey, it's from 2010, but hey

everyone is going to fucking condemn hamas for this. no one of any value will support hamas over it. more importantly, hamas is not our greatest ally and will not receive our unconditional support. hamas is not getting billions of dollars of "aid" and military equipment from us when we do it. there is no "double standard". you can't fucking build up israel as our greatest ally the only democracy and shower it with money then complain when people don't treat them the same way as fucking terrorists. it's so obvious and ridiculous that everyone seems to understand it except a small group of people with a deliberate blind spot.
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:27 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Exactly! You are exactly right!

The reason of less deaths in Israel is also probably attributed to a better health and immediate care system.


Proof, bitte.

Also, if you remember, Palestine hasn't been exactly "innocent". They are the ones who started the rocket launching.


Why did the rocket launching start again? Oh right, the Israeli government assassinated Hamas' equivalent of Leon Panetta or Ehud Barak.

Israel's just retaliating to defend itself.


:palm:

Hamas are not very nice, but let's not solely blame them for this, OK?



Hamas is a terrorist organization...there kind of prone to getting killed rightly so
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:28 pm

Sabara wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:bbc, oxfam, ITN, ITV, CCN, MSNBC, amnesty international, everyone is out to get poor widdle iswael


Exactly! You are exactly right!

The reason of less deaths in Israel is also probably attributed to a better health and immediate care system. Also, if you remember, Palestine hasn't been exactly "innocent". They are the ones who started the rocket launching. Israel's just retaliating to defend itself.

the reason for less deaths is the massive difference in technology. shitty scrap metal shit powered rockets vs jets paid for with your tax money. (i wonder why people pay so much attention to israel anyway? i don't get it?!)
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Postby Serrland » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:28 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Proof, bitte.



Why did the rocket launching start again? Oh right, the Israeli government assassinated Hamas' equivalent of Leon Panetta or Ehud Barak.



:palm:

Hamas are not very nice, but let's not solely blame them for this, OK?



Hamas is a terrorist organization...there kind of prone to getting killed rightly so


I'd agree that it is acceptable to kill Hamas. The question becomes how many civilians is it acceptable to kill in the process?

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Postby Delanshar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:28 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
How else would you explain the obvious double standards. Seriously just suppose tomorrow in central Tel Aviv 6 left wing activists are shot dead by Mossad for "collaborating with Hamas". The international outrage would cause an earthquake.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-upda ... 2010-04-15

oh hey, it's from 2010, but hey

everyone is going to fucking condemn hamas for this. no one of any value will support hamas over it. more importantly, hamas is not our greatest ally and will not receive our unconditional support. hamas is not getting billions of dollars of "aid" and military equipment from us when we do it. there is no "double standard". you can't fucking build up israel as our greatest ally the only democracy and shower it with money then complain when people don't treat them the same way as fucking terrorists. it's so obvious and ridiculous that everyone seems to understand it except a small group of people with a deliberate blind spot.


One article by AI =/= World Outrage. I'm talking about world outrage.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:29 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Proof, bitte.



Why did the rocket launching start again? Oh right, the Israeli government assassinated Hamas' equivalent of Leon Panetta or Ehud Barak.



:palm:

Hamas are not very nice, but let's not solely blame them for this, OK?


Hamas is a terrorist organization...there kind of prone to getting killed rightly so


If, say, the British government were to get up tomorrow and decide to declare all major US political parties as outright terrorists, would this make them so?

Hamas not being very nice does not automatically qualify them as terrorists.
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Postby Sabara » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:29 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Delanshar wrote:
How else would you explain the obvious double standards. Seriously just suppose tomorrow in central Tel Aviv 6 left wing activists are shot dead by Mossad for "collaborating with Hamas". The international outrage would cause an earthquake.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-upda ... 2010-04-15

oh hey, it's from 2010, but hey

everyone is going to fucking condemn hamas for this. no one of any value will support hamas over it. more importantly, hamas is not our greatest ally and will not receive our unconditional support. hamas is not getting billions of dollars of "aid" and military equipment from us when we do it. there is no "double standard". you can't fucking build up israel as our greatest ally the only democracy and shower it with money then complain when people don't treat them the same way as fucking terrorists. it's so obvious and ridiculous that everyone seems to understand it except a small group of people with a deliberate blind spot.


Terrorists huh? Have you noticed the bus bombings that Palestinian "Freedom Fighters" have caused in Tel Aviv and many other cities?
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:30 pm

Sabara wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:ISRAEL IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, OUR GREATEST ALL- why are people criticizing us?! don't you know brutal terrorist groups and dictatorships do it too? stop picking on us. also please continue giving us billions of dollars of "aid".


It is the only democracy besides Turkey, lol, which is why we need to defend it.

:lol:


Perhaps because i was not born in America but have now served in it's Military and also pay taxes to its government but i completely disagree.

In fact if i had my way America would lay a massive Embargo isreal and let it implode on it self.
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:30 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Hamas is a terrorist organization...there kind of prone to getting killed rightly so


If, say, the British government were to get up tomorrow and decide to declare all major US political parties as outright terrorists, would this make them so?

Hamas not being very nice does not automatically qualify them as terrorists.


Because US politcal partys don't go around executing politcal dissidents, jews, gays and so called "spys"
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Postby Delanshar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:30 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Hamas is a terrorist organization...there kind of prone to getting killed rightly so


If, say, the British government were to get up tomorrow and decide to declare all major US political parties as outright terrorists, would this make them so?

Hamas not being very nice does not automatically qualify them as terrorists.


Most US political parties don't use suicide bombers against innocent civilians. They also don't usually try and intimidate their constituents by executing "collaborators"
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Postby Sabara » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:31 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Sabara wrote:
It is the only democracy besides Turkey, lol, which is why we need to defend it.

:lol:


Perhaps because i was not born in America but have now served in it's Military and also pay taxes to its government but i completely disagree.

In fact if i had my way America would lay a massive Embargo isreal and it implode on it self.


Whoa. ._.

So we're basically gonna abandon the only democracy in that region?
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Postby Saruhan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:32 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
Sabara wrote:
Exactly! You are exactly right!

The reason of less deaths in Israel is also probably attributed to a better health and immediate care system. Also, if you remember, Palestine hasn't been exactly "innocent". They are the ones who started the rocket launching. Israel's just retaliating to defend itself.

the reason for less deaths is the massive difference in technology. shitty scrap metal shit powered rockets vs jets paid for with your tax money. (i wonder why people pay so much attention to israel anyway? i don't get it?!)

Because the Soviets were in Bed with pretty much the whole Middle east (besides Turkey, the Arab Peninsula, and Iran) and gave them shit, and when the Israelis defeated the Arabs when the came to attack them they passed us some of the non destroyed bits. And because of that and the shittons of intelligence and weapons testing they do we're being helpful to our friends.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:32 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
If, say, the British government were to get up tomorrow and decide to declare all major US political parties as outright terrorists, would this make them so?

Hamas not being very nice does not automatically qualify them as terrorists.


Because US politcal partys don't go around executing politcal dissidents, jews, gays and so called "spys"


Can you source the political dissidents, the Jews and the gays bit of that claim, please?
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Postby Delanshar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:32 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Sabara wrote:
It is the only democracy besides Turkey, lol, which is why we need to defend it.

:lol:


Perhaps because i was not born in America but have now served in it's Military and also pay taxes to its government but i completely disagree.

In fact if i had my way America would lay a massive Embargo isreal and let it implode on it self.


So abandon the only country in the Middle East that actually gives a damn about it's citizens. Good Plan.
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Postby Delanshar » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:33 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Because US politcal partys don't go around executing politcal dissidents, jews, gays and so called "spys"


Can you source the political dissidents, the Jews and the gays bit of that claim, please?


He's saying they don't
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Postby Saruhan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:34 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Sabara wrote:
It is the only democracy besides Turkey, lol, which is why we need to defend it.

:lol:


Perhaps because i was not born in America but have now served in it's Military and also pay taxes to its government but i completely disagree.

In fact if i had my way America would lay a massive Embargo isreal and let it implode on it self.

Too bad Israel lets you save billions of dollars on tech by testing and improving it for you free of charge, and the fact that the US isn't it's largest trading partner, and the Israelis would just do the same thing but with Chinese backing instead
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Postby North Calaveras » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:34 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Because US politcal partys don't go around executing politcal dissidents, jews, gays and so called "spys"


Can you source the political dissidents, the Jews and the gays bit of that claim, please?


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