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In the Time of a Second Civil War, who would you support?

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Which side would you fight for?

Three Hurrahs for the Union!
119
33%
Rise the flag of Dixie!
75
21%
Neutrality is the best option here
19
5%
Your British and you know it, rejoin the Empire!
71
20%
Cthulhu shall rise
55
15%
Not American and do/can not care
19
5%
 
Total votes : 358

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Death Metal
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Postby Death Metal » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:11 am

I'll do what Ben Grimm did in the Marvel Civil War.

EDIT- IE, "I'm going to France, call me when this BS is over."
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I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:13 am

Death Metal wrote:I'll do what Ben Grimm did in the Marvel Civil War.

EDIT- IE, "I'm going to France, call me when this BS is over."


Blame Stark and Reed Richards for their cowardice.

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:18 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Death Metal wrote:I'll do what Ben Grimm did in the Marvel Civil War.

EDIT- IE, "I'm going to France, call me when this BS is over."


Blame Stark and Reed Richards for their cowardice.


Sue and Johnny were kind of being ridiculous about it too.

Grimm and Punisher were the only ones who I agreed with. Grimm because the whole thing was fucking stupid. Punisher because "um, why are we fighting EACH OTHER when we have more important shit to worry about?"

'Course Punisher really had no dog in that fight because he had a public identity and there was no way SHIELD would have let him register.
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A non-idealist centre-leftist

Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:19 am

Death Metal wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
Blame Stark and Reed Richards for their cowardice.


Sue and Johnny were kind of being ridiculous about it too.

Grimm and Punisher were the only ones who I agreed with. Grimm because the whole thing was fucking stupid. Punisher because "um, why are we fighting EACH OTHER when we have more important shit to worry about?"

'Course Punisher really had no dog in that fight because he had a public identity and there was no way SHIELD would have let him register.


I stand, as always, with Captain America. The "What If?" about the Civil War showed Stark how stupid he was.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:20 am

Galloism wrote:Given I survived one successful revolution and one failed revolution by drinking through them and minding my own business...

I would probably just do that again.

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:22 am

Samuraikoku wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Sue and Johnny were kind of being ridiculous about it too.

Grimm and Punisher were the only ones who I agreed with. Grimm because the whole thing was fucking stupid. Punisher because "um, why are we fighting EACH OTHER when we have more important shit to worry about?"

'Course Punisher really had no dog in that fight because he had a public identity and there was no way SHIELD would have let him register.


I stand, as always, with Captain America. The "What If?" about the Civil War showed Stark how stupid he was.


Oh, if I HAD to pick a side, it'd be Cap's. But he was completely and unwilling to accept a compromise. And working with villains... yeah. BOTH sides did that, but the villains got something out of it by joining with Stark.
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(Trump is Reagan 2.0: A nationalistic bimbo who will ruin America.)
Death Metal: A nation founded on the most powerful force in the world: METAL! \m/
A non-idealist centre-leftist

Alts: Ronpaulatia, Bisonopolis, Iga, Gygaxia, The Children of Skyrim, Tinfoil Fedoras

Pro: Civil Equality, Scaled Income Taxes, Centralized Govtt, Moderate Business Regulations, Heavy Metal
Con: Censorship in any medium, Sales Tax, Flat Tax, Small Govt, Overly Large Govt, Laissez Faire, AutoTuner.

I support Obama. And so would FA Hayek.

34 arguments Libertarians (and sometimes AnCaps) make, and why they are wrong.

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Postby Goodclark » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:58 am

Well I am a mega-conservative, so take a wild guess.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:00 am

Goodclark wrote:Well I am a mega-conservative, so take a wild guess.

I would imagine conservatives, especially mega ones, would support preservation of the country over the rather liberal ideas of self-determination and liberation and secession.
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Postby Goodclark » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:02 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Goodclark wrote:Well I am a mega-conservative, so take a wild guess.

I would imagine conservatives, especially mega ones, would support preservation of the country over the rather liberal ideas of self-determination and liberation and secession.

Didn't expect anyone to guess the correct answer. You kinda ruined my plan on making someone looking stupid by saying I would support the Union and not the South and West. Thanks, a lot. >:(


:p
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:04 am

Goodclark wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I would imagine conservatives, especially mega ones, would support preservation of the country over the rather liberal ideas of self-determination and liberation and secession.

Didn't expect anyone to guess the correct answer......

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:06 am

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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:09 am

Depending on what we're talking about, the Anti-Registration side, the Stormcloak Rebellion, or the Loyalist forces of the Imperium.

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Postby Objectiveland » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:10 am

Myself.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:11 am

Objectiveland wrote:Myself.


I would suggest you are already supporting yourself, or are you a moocher?

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Postby Rio Cana » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:29 am

Austeres wrote:Being from Florida and seeing that the US Government has done poorly since 2001 (you know what I am talkin about), I would join Florida and try to reform the Confederate States of America again, but this time without slaves and a better government. I would also take Kentucky and Oklahoma.


You do know Florida is a democratic state when it comes to this years elections.

Florida started out centuries ago with a small Spanish population. Todays it has large Spanish speakers who are pro-Union. Which means most of Florida, (including certain cities in Northern Florida) would support the Union.

If Florida divided it would probably look something like this. Those small parts, with the possible exception of Panama City, would most likely be absorbed by the ajoining blue or green.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm

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Adventus Secundus wrote:

Hey sonny, come up to Chicago and you'll see that racism and inequality are alive and well here, too. Or head over to California and just watch how racist those people are towards Asians. Yanks are probably more racist than Johnny Rebs, they just don't like to admit it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz_GLcumolw


Of course you have sources for those claims right?

Milwaukee, the biggest city in Wisconsin, is also the most segregated city in the United States. Appleton used to be a sundown town.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:07 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Of course you have sources for those claims right?

Milwaukee, the biggest city in Wisconsin, is also the most segregated city in the United States. Appleton used to be a sundown town.

Of course you have sources for those claims right?
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:11 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Milwaukee, the biggest city in Wisconsin, is also the most segregated city in the United States. Appleton used to be a sundown town.

Of course you have sources for those claims right?

I went to milwaukee once.

There were Indians all over the place.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:13 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Of course you have sources for those claims right?

I went to milwaukee once.

There were Indians all over the place.

You should go back, I hear the place is crawling with Brewers and swimming in beer.

And between 1903 and 1953, baseball was bounded on the north by Boston, the south by Washington DC and in the west by St. Louis? It's true. *nod* Until those Indians moved to Milwaukee.
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
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My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Postby Adventus Secundus » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Adventus Secundus wrote:

Hey sonny, come up to Chicago and you'll see that racism and inequality are alive and well here, too. Or head over to California and just watch how racist those people are towards Asians. Yanks are probably more racist than Johnny Rebs, they just don't like to admit it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz_GLcumolw


Of course you have sources for those claims right?


Yep.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/chicago_the_new_capital_of_segregation.html
http://www.wbez.org/series/race-out-loud/chicagos-segregation-seen-time-lapse-cta-red-line-100540

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Postby Kentsland » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:23 pm

I voted for being on the rebel side. I'm not totally set on it either. Or if I'll do anything.

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Postby Prisoner Zero » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:24 pm

Texas. Need I say why?

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:41 pm

Prisoner Zero wrote:Texas. Need I say why?

Yes.
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby Maverica » Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:44 pm

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Milwaukee, the biggest city in Wisconsin, is also the most segregated city in the United States. Appleton used to be a sundown town.

Of course you have sources for those claims right?

http://media.salon.com/2011/03/most_segregated_cities-slide-10.jpg
http://www.salon.com/2011/03/29/most_segregated_cities/slide_show/10
http://sundown.afro.illinois.edu/sundowntownsshow.php?id=566
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