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In the Time of a Second Civil War, who would you support?

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Which side would you fight for?

Three Hurrahs for the Union!
119
33%
Rise the flag of Dixie!
75
21%
Neutrality is the best option here
19
5%
Your British and you know it, rejoin the Empire!
71
20%
Cthulhu shall rise
55
15%
Not American and do/can not care
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5%
 
Total votes : 358

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Postby Melas » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:08 pm

I would not give a dawm,I guess I would gather my own army and when the U.S is weak I would strike and take all of the west coast
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Postby Skibereen » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:08 pm

Cthulhu shall rise
argumentum ad logicam, seriously think about it.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:08 pm

The Otters. I would support the Otters.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:09 pm

Tovakestan wrote:I say that the north should just let the south go, that way they will get rid of those "pesky backwards" conservatives like me.


SCOTUS says, taking into account the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution of the United States, that the union is indissoluble. Tough luck.

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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:09 pm

Laerod wrote:The Otters. I would support the Otters.


Stormcloaks.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:10 pm

Laerod wrote:The Otters. I would support the Otters.

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Norsklow
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Postby Norsklow » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:10 pm

Basic plot for the 2nd War of the Southern Sedition:

Achilles(USA) Calls Hector(CSA) Out

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: Oh, shit.

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: Goodbye, Dad. I tried to be the best son you could have.

PRIAM: *tear*

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: Goodbye, Andromache. I tried to be the best husband I could be.

ANDROMACHE: *tear*

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: Goodbye, baby son. I tried to be the best father I could be.

BABY: WAAAAAA!

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: Goodbye, Paris. Make me proud.

PARIS: Oh, way to twist the knife, man.

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

SMARTASS IN THE AUDIENCE: STELLAAAAAAA!

ACHILLES: Shut your mouth or I CUT YOU.

SMARTASS IN THE AUDIENCE: *whimpers*

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: *puts on his armor slowly and dramatically*

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: *reads the paper, gets a shoeshine*

ACHILLES: HECTORRRRRRRREB!

HECTOR: I’m here, I’m here! Promise me that the loser gets a proper burial.

ACHILLES: Fuck you.

HECTOR: We let Patroclus have a proper burial!

ACHILLES: FUCK. YOU.

Hector and Achilles fight. Achilles whales on Hector for about fifteen minutes. Hector gets in one good blow on Achilles’ armor. Then Achilles spears him and stabs him and Hector dies. The Trojan royal family weeps. Achilles hitches Hector’s body up to his chariot and drags it back to Greek-Camp-by-the-Sea.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:10 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Laerod wrote:The Otters. I would support the Otters.


Stormcloaks.

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Postby Acro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:18 pm

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Acro wrote:Personally I would support an a free vermont Vermont. But they dont don't have a petition so it dont doesn't matter

There are laws in Vermont against what you just did the English language.



You completely ignore my post. To attack my Grammar? Really?
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:36 pm

Agymnum wrote:The Union.

Let us crush the confederacy so that they remember why the United States is not to be trifled with.



Crush! Crush! :lol:

You left out what will be done to the rebels. Will they be sent to this place or not.

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Postby Laerod » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Acro wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:There are laws in Vermont against what you just did the English language.



You completely ignore my post. To attack my Grammar? Really?

You completely ignored grammar to make it. Turnabout is fair play.

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Postby Veceria » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:41 pm

Oh good, there's a Cthulhu choice. I'll always support my good old friend.
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:45 pm

In the astonishingly unlikely event that a second civil war should break out in the USA, and assuming it managed to last more than a week, I suppose I'd throw my gun in with whatever airline gets me to Copenhagen with the fewest stops.
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Postby Austeres » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:45 pm

Being from Florida and seeing that the US Government has done poorly since 2001 (you know what I am talkin about), I would join Florida and try to reform the Confederate States of America again, but this time without slaves and a better government. I would also take Kentucky and Oklahoma.
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Postby Benutanairan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:49 pm

Basically I propose the Allied States of America for a Reason Death to the Union, Confederacy, Britain, Russia, and Keep Cthulhu back in the Lovecraftian Realm.
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Postby Zathganastan » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:59 pm

Although I very much like my home state of Texas I fell that it would be my civic duty to put my country before my state so Union.But really I just don't care for Texas secessionist or levying war just because your party didn't win an election.
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Postby Dragonlord Jargon » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:31 pm

Tovakestan wrote:I say that the north should just let the south go, that way they will get rid of those "pesky backwards" conservatives like me.


Some one sees the social benifits. SMmmmooother government, easier management.

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Postby Sulamalik » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:37 pm

Fuck it, Cthulhu may be the bringer of the apocalypse, but at least he has a consistent voting record.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:43 pm

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Postby Dracone » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:46 pm

No man should be forced to live with laws he does not beleive in. If a seccessionist movement developed, I would get siome guns and go help the freedom fighters. If they dont want to live in this country any more, and if its the majority in an area, they have the right to govern themselves. (moral right not legal. I dont want to get in ANOTHER argument of legal versus natural rights)
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Postby Laerod » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:48 pm

Dracone wrote:No man should be forced to live with laws he does not beleive in.

Fuck that shit right in the ear. No murderer or rapist should be able to get away with it simply because they don't feel like being convicted.

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Postby Sulamalik » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:48 pm

Dracone wrote:No man should be forced to live with laws he does not beleive in. If a seccessionist movement developed, I would get siome guns and go help the freedom fighters. If they dont want to live in this country any more, and if its the majority in an area, they have the right to govern themselves. (moral right not legal. I dont want to get in ANOTHER argument of legal versus natural rights)


So you believe that rape and murder is justified if the perpetrators don't believe in those laws?

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Postby Dracone » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:52 pm

Sulamalik wrote:
Dracone wrote:No man should be forced to live with laws he does not beleive in. If a seccessionist movement developed, I would get siome guns and go help the freedom fighters. If they dont want to live in this country any more, and if its the majority in an area, they have the right to govern themselves. (moral right not legal. I dont want to get in ANOTHER argument of legal versus natural rights)


So you believe that rape and murder is justified if the perpetrators don't believe in those laws?

^^Ninja'd.

Ive heard that argument before.... and conditionally, yes. The condition being that it is on their property and that they declare themselves their own nation. If it occurs on their property and they declare themselves their own nation, and in that nation it is legal, then yes yes it is.
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Postby New United States of Barlatia » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:53 pm

The Confederacy.

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Postby Sulamalik » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:54 pm

Dracone wrote:
Sulamalik wrote:
So you believe that rape and murder is justified if the perpetrators don't believe in those laws?

^^Ninja'd.

Ive heard that argument before.... and conditionally, yes. The condition being that it is on their property and that they declare themselves their own nation. If it occurs on their property and they declare themselves their own nation, and in that nation it is legal, then yes yes it is.


You don't think that their victims deserve their own rights to be observed? Like the right to bodily integrity?
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