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Which side would you fight for?

Three Hurrahs for the Union!
119
33%
Rise the flag of Dixie!
75
21%
Neutrality is the best option here
19
5%
Your British and you know it, rejoin the Empire!
71
20%
Cthulhu shall rise
55
15%
Not American and do/can not care
19
5%
 
Total votes : 358

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North California
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Postby North California » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:42 pm

Meryuma wrote:I'd fight for Cascadia if anybody.



Eh...I like the idea, but I'm afraid it will turn into a wishy-washy hippie land.
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Postby Bone Fort » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:43 pm

Guys, you're all wrong.

Get ready to say, "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn."
Me summed up in one sentence.

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Postby NERVUN » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:43 pm

North California wrote:
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What a glorious day this is!


That guy was annoying lol.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:43 pm

THE UNITED FEDERATION OF ALGORENIA wrote:(Image)


While The Americans are bussy destroying each other, the Russians will take advantage of this and invade the U.S.

as a result the Russians will own one part, another group will own another part, and the rest will form the new Great American Empire!!!

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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:44 pm

North California wrote:
Meryuma wrote:I'd fight for Cascadia if anybody.



Eh...I like the idea, but I'm afraid it will turn into a wishy-washy hippie land.



Since when did North California get Deleted :blink:

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Postby Wintersun » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:48 pm

NERVUN wrote:
North California wrote:
That guy was annoying lol.

When we ban you, you are to stay off of this site.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:49 pm

NERVUN wrote:
North California wrote:
That guy was annoying lol.

When we ban you, you are to stay off of this site.

*** DEAT for posting past ban ***.

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:blink: Wait, what? He was banned?
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Postby Maruspinia » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:50 pm

i would go with britian.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:50 pm

There hasn't been to much about this going on in my state so I'm glad, but if NC tries to secede, I'll blow the treasonists' heads straight off their necks.
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:51 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
NERVUN wrote:When we ban you, you are to stay off of this site.

*** DEAT for posting past ban ***.

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:blink: Wait, what? He was banned?


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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:There hasn't been to much about this going on in my state so I'm glad, but if NC tries to secede, I'll blow the treasonists' heads straight off their necks.


Good God I do not need to get in another " What About the Civilians?" argument with you people :rofl:
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:56 pm

Benutanairan wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:There hasn't been to much about this going on in my state so I'm glad, but if NC tries to secede, I'll blow the treasonists' heads straight off their necks.


Good God I do not need to get in another " What About the Civilians?" argument with you people :rofl:


You're either with us or against us, that's how we do things in the South. We aren't pro-gun down here for nothing. 8)
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Postby Benutanairan » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:01 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Benutanairan wrote:
Good God I do not need to get in another " What About the Civilians?" argument with you people :rofl:


You're either with us or against us, that's how we do things in the South. We aren't pro-gun down here for nothing. 8)



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Postby The Elven Imperium » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:06 pm

New Sapienta wrote:In response to these seccesion petitions(which I believe will prove to be nothing but saber rattling) I was suprised by some of the Souther Seccesionists.

In the case of a Second Civil War, assuming the states with large petions(25,00 for the purposes of this thread), whihc side would you support?

I personaly, would take up the flag for the Union and the Republic, to put down traitorous and ridculous rebel from the South and West.


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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:12 pm

Depends, are we actually going to win this time? *said with a Kentucky draw* Why, boy, my cotton fields are not going to pick themselves."

In all seriousness, the Union.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:16 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:Depends, are we actually going to win this time? *said with a Kentucky draw* Why, boy, my cotton fields are not going to pick themselves."

In all seriousness, the Union.

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Postby Agymnum » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:23 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:Depends, are we actually going to win this time? *said with a Kentucky draw* Why, boy, my cotton fields are not going to pick themselves."

In all seriousness, the Union.


The only way to win is to educate the south. You do that, you dispel the religious idiocy and the racism, and then we'll truly have won for the south will understand the north and vise-versa. Thus, we'll come closer together as a nation.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:27 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:Depends, are we actually going to win this time? *said with a Kentucky draw* Why, boy, my cotton fields are not going to pick themselves."

In all seriousness, the Union.


The only way to win is to educate the south. You do that, you dispel the religious idiocy and the racism, and then we'll truly have won for the south will understand the north and vise-versa. Thus, we'll come closer together as a nation.


First, I was just kidding. I really was. Second, I don't think it's religious idiocy as much as it is a selfish worldview that I'm not too sure Christ himself would have appreciated. Third, if not for that, it will be for another reason. Cultural differences are often regional, that's just the way it is.

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Postby Agymnum » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:29 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
The only way to win is to educate the south. You do that, you dispel the religious idiocy and the racism, and then we'll truly have won for the south will understand the north and vise-versa. Thus, we'll come closer together as a nation.


First, I was just kidding. I really was. Second, I don't think it's religious idiocy as much as it is a selfish worldview that I'm not too sure Christ himself would have appreciated. Third, if not for that, it will be for another reason. Cultural differences are often regional, that's just the way it is.


For some reason, despite cultural differences between the east and the west, you don't see Californians like myself screaming for independence.
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Postby Wintersun » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:29 pm

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Oh for the sake of fuck...I flame who I want cunt whiskers


I predict ban within the next three posts.

On-topic, does anyone get why the south can't get over the fact we're a union? I mean, the north, mid-west, and west don't seem to have this secession problem.
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Postby Moving Forward Inc » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:31 pm

We have all seen the thing about the split between Jesus land, the US, and Canada.
I would fight on the side of the US in favor of preventing New Mexico and Colorado being annexed by Jesus land.

I would also be willing to support an independent Wall Street and an independent Las Vegas.
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Postby Wintersun » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:32 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Wintersun wrote:
Oh for the sake of fuck...I flame who I want cunt whiskers


I predict ban within the next three posts.

On-topic, does anyone get why the south can't get over the fact we're a union? I mean, the north, mid-west, and west don't seem to have this secession problem.


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Postby Adventus Secundus » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:32 pm

New Sapienta wrote:In response to these seccesion petitions(which I believe will prove to be nothing but saber rattling) I was suprised by some of the Souther Seccesionists.

In the case of a Second Civil War, assuming the states with large petions(25,00 for the purposes of this thread), whihc side would you support?

I personaly, would take up the flag for the Union and the Republic, to put down traitorous and ridculous rebel from the South and West.



I signed the petition. It will not come to a war. And your hubris is the only thing traitorous and ridiculous here
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